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Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:26 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1466, Liger_Zero wrote:
In post 1465, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Has there been a lot of discussion in the hood, Liger? By any one person in particular?

p-edit: I probably worded than worse than intended - it wasn't a judgement of you or your ability; it was more about using the other players as a resource.
The hood is only open at night, so zero discussion.
Shame; I was thinking there might be pre-game chatter. Often hoods are open before the game begins.

p-edit: buncha posts

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:28 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1470, Liger_Zero wrote:I thought everyone was in a hood. Could I not have made a mistake and thought they were public knowledge already?
If you had scum buddies, you'd already know whether everyone was in a hood or not because they'd have told you.

Actually nevermind. If they don't have day talk and PTs weren't open in pre-game, then they probably have not had a chance to converse at all. This does make for some interesting data though tbh.

Still think this all makes Liger pretty town.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:30 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1472, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I’ve now had time to review your ISO. If you thought that was a slip why didn’t you vote when you posted your thoughts?
You honestly wanna know the truth?


I was pooping. And then I went to bed cuz I was exhausted. By the time I'd gotten back to the thread Titus and Anen had discussed it and I realized I misread it, so I didn't bother.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:36 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 1477, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
You honestly wanna know the truth?

I was pooping.
And then I went to bed cuz I was exhausted. By the time I'd gotten back to the thread Titus and Anen had discussed it and I realized I misread it, so I didn't bother.
Ok - game aside I so want to sig the bolded because you gave me the first out-loud laugh in a long time with that ...

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:37 am
by Persivul
In post 1472, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So wait … it’s a Large game where more votes are required to get strong wagons going. And you’ve parked your wagon much of the day because “no good wagons are forming”?
Aside from RVS, I voted you in 283, ircher in 491, Titus in 792, and ETL in 1326.

You voted brawl in 232, KTS in 596, then back to brawl in 797.

So if you think vote parking is bad, look in the mirror.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:40 am
by Persivul
In post 1477, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I was pooping. And then I went to bed cuz I was exhausted.
Wow, that must have been an impressive poop to leave you exhausted like that.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:42 am
by Persivul
In post 1468, Titus wrote:
In post 1459, Liger_Zero wrote:I mean I guess it can't do that much harm?
Its Me, copper223, Persivul, and MagnaofIllusion.
Thank you. This helps tremendously. It also reaffirms that my reads list is indeed viable.
If you mean viable because I'm the scum in the group, you should push me for lynch today, right? If I flip red, that comes close to clearing the other three.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:44 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 1479, Persivul wrote:Aside from RVS, I voted you in 283, ircher in 491, Titus in 792, and ETL in 1326.

You voted brawl in 232, KTS in 596, then back to brawl in 797.

So if you think vote parking is bad, look in the mirror.
Um I have my vote placed on a scum suspect and know where it was the whole time. You just said your vote isn't important and had it parked on someone without apparently knowing it was there or even scum-reading said player for a signficant amount of time. Two absolutely separate circumstances.

Your stance is questionable and your attempt to play the deflect game upon being called on it is scummy.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:48 am
by Egg
Liger's claim is ... interesting. But I don't think it really tells us anything. I'd kinda like to know who else is in the hood.

Liger, care to tell us what your main account is for meta purposes?

Persivul, you don't think Ircher seemed pressured by his wagon? Or what about the two VT claims we've had already?

Oh. Neighbor reveal. Uhhhh. Titus. Which neighbor am I wrong about because Liger's approach to this wasn't even close to scummy.

Magna, thanks. Don't let me forget to read that later (I'm a phone poster so navigating links will take time. a lot of time)

Reactions to ETL's poop are pretty funny tbh.

Oh yeah. 1481. That's why Persivul is town. Should I be listening to Titus on Copper then?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:49 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1480, Persivul wrote:
In post 1477, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I was pooping. And then I went to bed cuz I was exhausted.
Wow, that must have been an impressive poop to leave you exhausted like that.
:lol: noooo I had just gotten back from camping. Packing everything back in the car in the hot sun, then a 2.5 hour drive, then unpacking, everything straight into the laundry and a good poop. Yah man exhausted!

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:49 am
by Egg
Anyone got time to make an unofficial vote count? I don't...

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:51 am
by Persivul
In post 1482, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Your stance is questionable and your attempt to play the deflect game upon being called on it is scummy.
So vote me.

Town!magna would vote me as a scum read.

Scum!magna, not so much. The hood is now known and the idea (which I agree with) that it probably contains 1 scum is out there. Liger is being town read. So, killing me would tkae it down to you and copper.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:56 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
OOC - Some pics from the trip:

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:57 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 1486, Persivul wrote:So vote me.

Town!magna would vote me as a scum read.

Scum!magna, not so much. The hood is now known and the idea (which I agree with) that it probably contains 1 scum is out there. Liger is being town read. So, killing me would tkae it down to you and copper.
Your wagon becomes more viable than Brawl's? In a heartbeat.

Likewise you aren't voting me as Town!Pers would be voting me since I am scum pushing on him while scum!Pers not so much as it narrows it down to himself and Copper. /sarcasm

Your post is just setting up a no-win situation - if I don't jump off Brawl I'm scum afraid to narrow down the Neighborhood and if I do I'm just caving to pressure and scum for it. Scummy.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:02 am
by zakk
In post 1459, Liger_Zero wrote:I mean I guess it can't do that much harm?
Its Me, copper223, Persivul, and MagnaofIllusion.
Omg. Wow

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:02 am
by zakk
Basically that says most of your scum list is town, Titus LOL

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:03 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
OH YEAH. People were asking why I hadn't mentioned Anen wrt my pre-game research. That's because I have trouble reading anen and that's pretty much the only note about him. Also nothing about alban. I've got notes for Anen, convergentconclusion (?? I guess they got replaced so that's useless..), copper, cy, desmond, shotty and egg, but i didn't really get into Egg's past games.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:06 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
Proof of when I created the excel doc and the notes within Normally I don't share that stuff but I didn't get much done on it anyway so I don't care.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:11 am
by Persivul
In post 1483, Egg wrote:Persivul, you don't think Ircher seemed pressured by his wagon? Or what about the two VT claims we've had already?
Looked at ircher's ISO. It was weird in the beginning. I liked his reads list (aside from it hurting my eyes in the sand colored skin) and what he did after that - all up until 1189. That's a vote for brawl, with posts before and after saying he liked brawl's content.

Regarding VT claims, I've seen town do it enough that it doesn't bother me.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:14 am
by Titus
In post 1490, zakk wrote:Basically that says most of your scum list is town, Titus LOL
Yeah, no.

In a 4p hood, it's likely one scum exists. There is one scum from my reads in the hood.

Why do you think that says my reads are wrong?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:17 am
by Persivul
In post 1488, MagnaofIllusion wrote: Your wagon becomes more viable than Brawl's? In a heartbeat.
Brawl's wagon isn't that big. You and Titus moving to me would probably make mine more viable.
Likewise you aren't voting me as Town!Pers would be voting me since I am scum pushing on him while scum!Pers not so much as it narrows it down to himself and Copper. /sarcasm
VOTE: Magna :good:
Your post is just setting up a no-win situation - if I don't jump off Brawl I'm scum afraid to narrow down the Neighborhood and if I do I'm just caving to pressure and scum for it. Scummy.
It's only no-win if I'm town, and you seem to know I'm town.

If I'm scum and you lynch me, that's a scum down and the three other neighbors looking very townie. How is that not a win?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:26 am
by zakk
In post 1492, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Proof of when I created the excel doc and the notes within Normally I don't share that stuff but I didn't get much done on it anyway so I don't care.
This feels like a desperate attempt for town cred

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:27 am
by zakk
In post 1494, Titus wrote:
In post 1490, zakk wrote:Basically that says most of your scum list is town, Titus LOL
Yeah, no.

In a 4p hood, it's likely one scum exists. There is one scum from my reads in the hood.

Why do you think that says my reads are wrong?
I thought I remembered you pushing copper as scum, also Persivul, and they are both in it

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:28 am
by zakk
I remembered you pushing them as scum, and I thought I remembered you pushing Seth too***

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:30 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 1495, Persivul wrote:It's only no-win if I'm town, and you seem to know I'm town.

If I'm scum and you lynch me, that's a scum down and the three other neighbors looking very townie. How is that not a win?
Um, whut? Lol. The point is as scum you are staging it to be a scummy reaction no matter how I react.

Of course lynching you as scum is good. You keep dodging the point that I'm not about to abandon the stronger wagon on my scum suspect for a currently non-viable one.