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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:00 pm
by Nero Cain
IF
Giga and Maria had not moved their votes from you there would have been a nice 4 man wagon on you. Its my
feeling
that the wagon on Maria picked up after I voted you.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:01 pm
by Nero Cain
Give me some reads Shadow.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:01 pm
by Nero Cain
Give me some reads Shadow.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:07 pm
by Shadow_step
I'll get into details later but pretty sure Elyse and Kraska are town.
Gerry and Karnos are strong scum leans.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:10 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 424, Shadow_step wrote:Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?
Can you remind me why you asked this.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:10 pm
by Shadow_step
In post 1475, Nero Cain wrote:
IF
Giga and Maria had not moved their votes from you there would have been a nice 4 man wagon on you. Its my
feeling
that the wagon on Maria picked up after I voted you.
I think your logic is flawed and you are confbiasing. Or scum and keeping a scum read on me is convenient.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:13 pm
by Shadow_step
In post 1479, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 424, Shadow_step wrote:Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?
Can you remind me why you asked this.
Because I didn't know what is considered normal in normal games. From what I've seen on this site the masons had night talk only. Maria and Transcend mentioned talking in their mason PT. So I found that odd.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:15 pm
by Nero Cain
*shrugz* I just see very little hunting from you and I disagree with Kranksa that this is your same game from open 629 or whatever.

Why should I think you are town?

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:17 pm
by Nero Cain

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:32 pm
by chilledtea
OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 2.02



Shadow_step (L-2) : Nero Cain, Thor665, JarJarDrinks, gigabyteTroubadour.

Blitzkrieg (L-5) : kraska77.

gigabyteTroubadour (L-5) : Blitzkrieg.

Not Voting (5) : Shadow_step, Elyse, gerryoat, karnos, MichelSableheart.

Day will end in (expired on 2016-09-23 00:00:00)

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:37 pm
by kraska77
In post 1462, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious
What epiphany did you get

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:29 pm
by Thor665
In post 1466, gerryoat wrote:how are we at L-2 already lol. I mean, shadow hasn't really dne much but tunnel me for no reason but. That was kinda fast, it's a bit scary.
:neutral:
In post 1478, Shadow_step wrote:I'll get into details later but pretty sure Elyse and Kraska are town.
Gerry and Karnos are strong scum leans.
Why not vote one of them?

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:41 am
by MichelSableheart
@thor: I spent a large part of yesterday trying to convince you that transcend/giga is scum, but didn't manage to convince you. Yet I still haven't got a clear idea where your townread on the slot is coming from. Could you try to convince me, please?
nero wrote:@Michel your top three town reads please.
I only have two strong townreads at the moment.

The first is Thor, who I can only see as scum if giga is (one of) his scumpartner(s). If giga is town, there was no reason for thor scum to block that lynch and risk a compromise wagon on one of his teammates.

The other is JJD. I've seen him make some solid remarks, bringing up good points, and found myself if not agreeing, then at least understanding his points.

My other townreads are a lot weaker then that. If I'm forced to pick a third though, I would probably say Elyse, because the poor wagon on her at the end of day 1 felt scum driven.
In post 1458, Nero Cain wrote:stop trying to delay Shadows claim. :/
Why are you so incredibly pushy for claims? As town, there's no particular need to know. It's mafia that want to see claims outed, as it helps them eliminate the dangerous powerroles.
In post 1467, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1437, Nero Cain wrote:With a that lurking they are doing you'll be waiting a long time. :/
Fuck off, go and check what lurking means. I live in a different timezone.
So? It's the quality of your posts that's atrocious. You're giving us virtually no reads, and no explanation for the reads you're giving us. You seem to intentionally make it difficult for anyone to read you based on your posts. You're not contributing anything despite posting regularly. That's the definition of lurking to me.

FoS: Shadow_step


Don't want to put him in hammerrange at the moment with players like Karnos around, but I do support this wagon.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:27 am
by Thor665
In post 1487, MichelSableheart wrote:@thor: I spent a large part of yesterday trying to convince you that transcend/giga is scum, but didn't manage to convince you. Yet I still haven't got a clear idea where your townread on the slot is coming from. Could you try to convince me, please?
My town read is based off gut and lack of seeing anything scummy coming from the slot.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:54 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1467, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1437, Nero Cain wrote:With a that lurking they are doing you'll be waiting a long time. :/
Fuck off, go and check what lurking means. I live in a different timezone.
Yeah, what ur doing is the definition of lurking. I don't care what timezone ur in. The few posts that you are making are filled w/ zero content.

You're:

- barely pushing the few scumreads you have
- not letting anyone know what ur other reads are
- not trying to scumhunt even a little bit

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:04 am
by JarJarDrinks
And yeah I agree w/ people that karnos is probably shadows scumbuddy

First off, the quickhammer looks bad for reasons already stated.

And like, shadow has given us 2 scumreads: gerry and karnos. But all he's really done is push gerry. He threw a shitty vote @ karnos that never materialized but other then that, hasn't pushed that read at all.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:06 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1485, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1462, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious
What epiphany did you get
nero should i tell kraska and michel what's going on or do u think elyse will catch on and l-1 shadow...?

(maybe i'm utterly wrong but i think i get what's happening)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:08 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1105, karnos wrote:Yeah, after forther review I see no reason to move my vote. Shadow_step increases in scum level by 50dkp, but transcend's slot is still scummy after the replace.

Sorry, the fake masonry is a big deal. It wasn't an obvious joke and it had a lot of potentially to seriously hurt town via real mason CC or by reading Maria wrong.
Makes sure to let us know he's scumreading shadow even though he's not voting there.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:09 am
by kraska77
In post 1491, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 1485, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1462, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious
What epiphany did you get
nero should i tell kraska and michel what's going on or do u think elyse will catch on and l-1 shadow...?

(maybe i'm utterly wrong but i think i get what's happening)
What...
I feel dumb =(

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:12 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1345, karnos wrote:Reads.

Shadow_step lurks a lot. voted me. probably scum because
I am biased
.
Thor665 logical player, hard to read.
Elyse seems towny, came to mostly same conclusions as me regarding transcends silly gambits.
gerryoat seems scummy, but might just be the EM play style shining through. unsure.
gigabyteTroubadour I miss the crying in spansish avatar. probably scum.
karnos I'm very town.
JarJarDrinks could jarjar secretly be the sith lord? probably not.
Nero Cain this seems to be some old player everyone respects. i don't like his reads so far.
I Am Innocent obviously town, his name isn't "i am guilty"
MichelSableheart awkward town, which some players read as scum. hope he gives some good insight before he gets misslynched
MariaR wildcard, fair chance of flipping scum but
not my top vote for the day
kraska77 haven't read enough of her posts to say
Blitzkrieg "
2 scummy things:

- Obviously quickhammering someone who's not his top vote of the day once it looks like shadow (who he's scumreading) might get roped instead.

- And again he tells us shadow is a scumread. BUT he lets people know that he may be biased so THEY probably shouldn't be scumreading him

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:14 am
by JarJarDrinks
I have no clue what giga is saying either. But it looks towny.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:15 am
by JarJarDrinks
Nero, thor, giga are all strong townreads rn

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:17 am
by JarJarDrinks
And the following are all townleans: Elyse, gerry, Michel, kraska

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:18 am
by JarJarDrinks
which leaves shadow/karnos/blitz as the scumteam

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:58 am
by karnos
In post 1479, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 424, Shadow_step wrote:Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?
Can you remind me why you asked this.
I think nero must be scum. This is the stupidest question I've ever seen anyone ask on mafiascum.net, no exception.