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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 7:30 pm

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In post 1472, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1469, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1451, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1446, Tchill13 wrote:i feel like roles are being valued based on the average of players that tend to play them versus the role itself.

vig is a great example.

GREAT role in the hands of a good or even a decent player.

can literally kill half the scum in a 2 scum game. can eliminate 20 percent of lynchbait in a 10 player 2 scum game.
Vig was added because 8/2 is super scumsided based on day play numbers, and it puts the no lynch day in to the hands of a vig instead.
i mean i feel like its a god tier role due to being able to kill half scum in one night.

you can kill the whole scum team by N1. only a possibility but still.
Thats when I mean about swingy though. It can be 4/2 on day 2. Which is mylo.
if 2TWN crumbs who they target its a guilty.

I'm not disagreeing i mean the swingy is my main complaint lol.

the odds of scum benefiting from swing is astronomically low compared to odds of town benefiting from swing since the weak role has to target scum, 20 percent chance, n1 for that to play out, which still could lead to a guilty.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 7:31 pm

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In post 1474, Espeonage wrote:8v2 is really just 7/2 though. Which is considered balanced with more town power than scum power.

Shrug, the game was what it was. You guys played well, but so did a very vocal part of the town.
yeah thats my point. town had 2 vocal players lol... not even half town was active...

anyways the setup wasnt primarily your fault. like i said. Cool role idea. its something i can get behind as far as building a game around.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 7:34 pm

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In post 1474, Espeonage wrote:vocal
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 7:34 pm

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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:01 pm

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I'll try to read Chills ISO in search of the nuances that pinged me as scum.
I wasn't just yapping my mouth at you - I had a legitimate scumhunch.
I just suck when it comes to trying to put it into words.. :(
Similarly I'll need to reread the part where you managed to momentarily turn my read around, just to make sure it doesn't happen again..! :lol:
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:06 pm

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50 percent finding scum 50 percent convincing everyone to lynch scum lol.

that being said i do welcome the challenge of you always knowing my alignment lol. if that continues.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:08 pm

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weirdly if lovebird didnt get Havo and/or you bussed I think I would have lynched Una before you

still p sure we would have got havo
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:11 pm

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....(but I'm kinda anti bus so... Mad respect)
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:11 pm

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In post 1480, Tchill13 wrote:50 percent finding scum 50 percent convincing everyone to lynch scum lol.
Oh, I know I lack the most important part! :lol:
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:14 pm

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In post 1483, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1480, Tchill13 wrote:50 percent finding scum 50 percent convincing everyone to lynch scum lol.
Oh, I know I lack the most important part! :lol:
we should hydra some time.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:16 pm

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In post 1483, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1480, Tchill13 wrote:50 percent finding scum 50 percent convincing everyone to lynch scum lol.
Oh, I know I lack the most important part! :lol:
i mean if youre good at convincing and terrible at finding scum... that causes problems lol.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:18 pm

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^^^^^^ this
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:18 pm

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In post 1481, the worst wrote:weirdly if lovebird didnt get Havo and/or you bussed I think I would have lynched Una before you

still p sure we would have got havo
the play was to get arc to bring up the nk. get arc to win us the game imo after love's death.

i'd do night kills the same way every time not knowing the setup.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 pm

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We should have a three-headed hydra.
"The worst Chill-Bomber"
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:21 pm

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lol

i may start modding soon. seems kinda difficult but ive got a few ideas in mind.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:23 pm

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In post 1489, Tchill13 wrote:lol

i may start modding soon. seems kinda difficult but ive got a few ideas in mind.
I want to get into modding too, but I feel like the process beforehand takes too long.. :(
I'll propably try to get started next week with an open or a newbie.. :?
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:25 pm

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I really liked the plan Tch. I pulled the same thing in a recent game where I was all but caught scum and won in 3v2 LyLo. It was awesome pressure to play against. :D

I'd be keen to try a game of yours Tch, sounds like youve got a good head for setups.

TWCB is a fantastic name.... :lol:
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:31 pm

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In post 1491, the worst wrote:I really liked the plan Tch. I pulled the same thing in a recent game where I was all but caught scum and won in 3v2 LyLo. It was awesome pressure to play against. :D

I'd be keen to try a game of yours Tch, sounds like youve got a good head for setups.

TWCB is a fantastic name.... :lol:
apparently i wouldnt get past the reviewers :lol: :lol: :lol:

if i do mod one i'll let you know. i feel like i'll do best in theme games that are a little mild as far as crazy roles go.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 8:46 pm

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I dig theme games. With the new normal format I think I'll probably swing more that way in the future.

But either way that'd be sweet, cheers!
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:29 am

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I guess my algorithm was too powerful to control.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 6:43 am

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That's a topic I wanted to discuss actually lol. It's probably nice to experiment with but I wouldn't use it to read someone based on it alone until it's been right a few times.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 7:27 am

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Sorry that I was not here earlier. VC coming soon.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 8:10 am

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In post 1496, Nero Cain wrote:
Sorry that I was not here earlier. VC coming soon.
I'm so excited to see what is the outcome! O_O
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 8:36 am

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...most interested in seeing the scum-PT and the assumed Dead/Spectator -thread.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 9:05 am

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In post 1496, Nero Cain wrote:
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