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I think grapes was just a nifty way to circumvent rvs to be honest
I've thought that for a while, it seemed obvious

Brian on kaede
I've been scumreading kaede for a very long time
Has been my lynch preference for a long time
If you want proof that I'm not pushing to save a buddy look at early game and you'll see my citing the exact same inconsistent tone
I would quote if I didn't have no time at all

In post 1474, Ankamius wrote:you aren't understanding what I'm talking about

reading directly means I'm reading you based on what and how you're posting
reading indirectly means I'm just fitting a read on you based on the gamestate and my other reads

If that's what you mean then im understanding perfectly:

In post 1464, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:That literally gives scum free reign of controlling people's read on me.

In post 1471, Kokichi Oma wrote:Kaede is a soothing lynch that calms your heart like the moon's reflection on water

yea

that's not as big a problem as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing I look for when I try to read the gamestate

In post 1478, Ankamius wrote:that's not as big a problem as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing I look for when I try to read the gamestate

Do you think I want to risk it?
Specially after what happened for "risking it" this game and having this end up in the way it is?

Like remove your SR of me for a second an assume I'm town.

Why, after this experiment, would i be willing to try playing again, just so this could happen again.

In post 1447, Ankamius wrote:it reads more like she found a possible out and is preemptively trying to justify not giving town any info from her role

Okay, sure. I buy this because I kind of had a similar feeling when I first read that.

However, I feel like PR's do have a high risk of getting killed/roleblocked (both perfectly reasonable expectations to have once you've claimed) and we've had a vanillaizer before (which I did bring up to Mastina as a sort of a joke to her IC claim).

I did kind of like how Kaede immediately tried to process Grapes' claim ('didn't you have a thing in your role about voting first'; could be faked but meh). And while she did snap CC-vote him, I find that kind of reasonable and she did try to process the chance of there being multiple roles in other FG games as well.

Contrast this to Ginngie, who if his claim is true, pretty much accepted Kaede's claim as true and snap-voted Grapes instead of wondering why Grapes made his vote. I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point was as she did a great job of not voting anything before then (like, Grapes was her literal first vote of the game).

No idea how Kaede could think I'm scum here and not out the read until I brought it up. So, yep, she's scum. Full steam ahead.

In post 1480, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Like remove your SR of me for a second an assume I'm town.

Why, after this experiment, would i be willing to try playing again, just so this could happen again.

Could you please not make posts like this
If you're town it's lazy play and if you're scum it's despicable play

In post 1481, Brian Skies wrote:I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point

Something like this:

In post 1206, Ginngie wrote:only 2 because I hammer

In post 1475, Human Sequencer wrote:Brian on kaede
I've been scumreading kaede for a very long time
Has been my lynch preference for a long time
If you want proof that I'm not pushing to save a buddy look at early game and you'll see my citing the exact same inconsistent tone
I would quote if I didn't have no time at all

I don't think you're scum (and I don't think I said I did).

I do believe she's your lynch preference. However, this doesn't explain what I asked you, which was about you saying her posts were inconsistent and disingenuous.

In post 1484, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:

In post 1481, Brian Skies wrote:I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point

Something like this:

In post 1206, Ginngie wrote:only 2 because I hammer

I don't care about that.

That's a Ginngie thing and not an alignment indicative thing.

In post 1479, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:

In post 1478, Ankamius wrote:that's not as big a problem as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing I look for when I try to read the gamestate

Do you think I want to risk it?
Specially after what happened for "risking it" this game and having this end up in the way it is?

In post 1480, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Like remove your SR of me for a second an assume I'm town.

Why, after this experiment, would i be willing to try playing again, just so this could happen again.

read through police academy 1 sometime

In post 1486, Brian Skies wrote:I don't care about that.

That's a Ginngie thing and not an alignment indicative thing.

Oh ok i didnt know about that.

especially day three

I almost ragequit a game I was hard carrying because it was that fucking maddening

Speaking of which im gonna go over to muffin's reads list and check why he TRs kokichi.

I'm caught up, but I haven't really been paying that close attention for the last 15-20 pages or so. So it'd be easier for me to understand where Ank/HS (and maybe you) are coming from instead of me feeling like this is an eleventh hour push from one of you to save a buddy from a lynch.

Was addressing this
I would if I could but I have no time and am phoneposting

Basically like
Her posts from the start all just feel discordiant
Like they read like somebody is acting while simultaneously letting their real emotions through
I guess it feels like scum kaede is acting like x but actually feeling like y, and because kaede is so emotional she can't help the y from bleeding through

In post 1415, Nosferatu wrote:tf is leviathan btw

VOTE: kaede

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... =Leviathan

In post 1490, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Speaking of which im gonna go over to muffin's reads list and check why he TRs kokichi.

How convenient.

Except there's also v, w and z in there somewhere too

I can't think of a town reason for kaede being so fuggin
Sporadic and emotionally inconsistent
It feels like bad acting, but really weird bad acting
It feels extremely fucjing faked is the point

Word choice that are really hard to fake over a body of work, plus the 5-day thing huh.

Man this takes me back to badass women lol xD
Where TTH scumread me based on me typing "tbh" a lot.

In post 1481, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 1447, Ankamius wrote:it reads more like she found a possible out and is preemptively trying to justify not giving town any info from her role

Okay, sure. I buy this because I kind of had a similar feeling when I first read that.

However, I feel like PR's do have a high risk of getting killed/roleblocked (both perfectly reasonable expectations to have once you've claimed) and we've had a vanillaizer before (which I did bring up to Mastina as a sort of a joke to her IC claim).

I did kind of like how Kaede immediately tried to process Grapes' claim ('didn't you have a thing in your role about voting first'; could be faked but meh). And while she did snap CC-vote him, I find that kind of reasonable and she did try to process the chance of there being multiple roles in other FG games as well.

Contrast this to Ginngie, who if his claim is true, pretty much accepted Kaede's claim as true and snap-voted Grapes instead of wondering why Grapes made his vote. I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point was as she did a great job of not voting anything before then (like, Grapes was her literal first vote of the game).

a lot of that depends on what Ginngie knows about Fakegod's meta, which I don't know if it has ever been revealed or not.

Kaede has a significant amount of experience with Fakegod setups. They're significantly more likely than most other mods to be unique in some way and have role interactions/focuses that aren't usually seen. I actually don't know how much she knows about the multiple-role thing since I don't know if she's been in any of them, but I don't think the vote on grapes is indicative necessarily because the role-processing thing only happened after Ginngie claimed.

In post 1494, Human Sequencer wrote:It feels extremely fucjing faked is the point

Read my reply to ank earlier and see if that makes sense to you.
If not then I guess my flip will surprise you.

But dont worry about bothering to learn to read me, I learned my lesson, once im dead here im gone.

Kaede giving up and then coming back and giving up again doesn't feel like town genuinely giving up at all

It feels like scum trying to dodge the rope by looking like she's given up

If you're town you need to work on your towngame so much, kaede
Don't blame town for your play here