BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Boonskiies]

Yeah, I didn’t know how to handle sub ins, because I couldn’t just say Gamma subbed in as soon as Annie Can started posting.

Probably won’t do another hidden alt game for years.

[RCEnigma]

The hidden alt was rough but there is potential there. I don't think it's suited for large themes. Maybe open games.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mystery at King' Landing was a good hidden alt game imo

[Something_Smart]

Well, no because they become Suicide Bomber making it effectively a Bomber game (which i stole from a game ran in like 2009)

Mathematically, it's no different, though. The targeted player still dies, as does one arbitrary player during the day.

[RCEnigma]

May just be playerlist then.

[Something_Smart]

The hidden alt was rough but there is potential there. I don't think it's suited for large themes. Maybe open games.

The hidden alt mechanic, combined with the vague and menacing "you better not let scum figure out who you are," combined with the playerlist being known, was a terrible combination.

[PenguinPower]

I wish Bins would have done more this game...

[Jingle]

So...


I just went to check the Review PT for this on a different topic (Flavorwise, why each game was which, which doesn't matter all that much) and it turns out we did originally plan this as 12v3, expecting it to be slightly scumsided at those numbers (which was intentional, for all three games). I'm not sure how we rolled 4 scum, but the mistake is as much mine as Boon's. I apologize to the town for the unintentional handicap, but at this point, there's no real answer to 'fix' it.

Edit: I actually kind of know how we made the mistake. The review was half via PM and half via PT and Boon was having major RL shit and myself minor RL shit when the hydra game started. Not a great excuse, but the best I have.

[Almost50]

Scum had to correctly guess identities during the night, or a kill wouldn’t go through. If they were wrong, Votes would become Inactive, and that player would become a Suicide Bomber.

So if scum guess wrong every night it's effectively mountainous.

11:4 mountainous.

Give me a break.

1- We already bus'd one of our own on D1
2- We NEVER guessed wrong at night
3- The Town Lynchee never did make the correct venge shot. and the town was given 2 shots at that as the game went
4- A third one was close enough, but instead YOU decided to gift us the game with the NoLynch vote

[Creature]

Oh yeah this game was absolute garbage

[Vorkuta]

Scum had to correctly guess identities during the night, or a kill wouldn’t go through. If they were wrong, Votes would become Inactive, and that player would become a Suicide Bomber.

WOOOOOOOOOW

[Almost50]

Yeah so I was Annie Can Boonrunner starting D2

And you "forgot to post in this game" which confirmed it was you and we killed you.

I mean, I was serious when I said you guys helped a LOT. It's true we worked out asses in early game trying to figure out enough slots, but by D3 everybody and their neighbours were showering us with free gifts

[Vorkuta]

I'm sorry for alt slipping 50 times
I swear it was unintentional and just my first time in a hydra

[RCEnigma]

Scum had to correctly guess identities during the night, or a kill wouldn’t go through. If they were wrong, Votes would become Inactive, and that player would become a Suicide Bomber.

So if scum guess wrong every night it's effectively mountainous.

11:4 mountainous.

Give me a break.

1- We already bus'd one of our own on D1
2- We NEVER guessed wrong at night
3- The Town Lynchee never did make the correct venge shot. and the town was given 2 shots at that as the game went
4- A third one was close enough, but instead YOU decided to gift us the game with the NoLynch vote

We probably don't Lynch you there anyway and I wasn't getting anyone on my side to wagon Titus so it was like, us or Deb.

[Almost50]

Mathematically, it's no different, though. The targeted player still dies, as does one arbitrary player during the day.

The difference is it'd have always been a TOWN KILL. It was a NEGATIVE UTILITY for the scum team to work around

[Something_Smart]

2- We NEVER guessed wrong at night

It would have been more scumsided if you had, we got twice as many mislynches that way.

And I only voted no-lynch because I did the rough math and decided 11:4 was so scumsided it wasn't even worth playing. Even after hitting two scum our LYLO EV was 13%.

[RCEnigma]

I don't blame you.

[Almost50]

We probably don't Lynch you there anyway and I wasn't getting anyone on my side to wagon Titus so it was like, us or Deb.

Well, at least you did NOT vote NoLynch, did you? We were still considering how to get a lynch and not get vengekilled for it, and someone decided to spare us all the trouble. Ya dig?

[Something_Smart]

The difference is it'd have always been a TOWN KILL. It was a NEGATIVE UTILITY for the scum team to work around

Yeah but a town kill still hits town a decent amount of the time...

The mods said the game was meant to be run at 12:3 and the fourth scum was an error. The math and the game back up that it was horribly scumsided. I'm not trying to weaken your achievement, I'm simply stating the facts.

[RCEnigma]

All the identities were outed so it wouldn't have mattered.

[Ausuka]

gg. sorry for being an idiot.

[Bins]

I wish Bins would have done more this game...

Same.

[Something_Smart]

We were still considering how to get a lynch and not get vengekilled for it

...why? Lynch town, vengekill scum, NK town, scum win.

[RCEnigma]

I wasn't joking when I said Ausuka had all the townie posts lol.

[PenguinPower]

I wish Bins would have done more this game...

Same.

Thank you for acknowledging my carry.