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In post 1472, Iconeum wrote:how is asking for a massclaim at this point anything less then seeing if it's opportune and possible to kill the claimed cop?

why not just kill the cop? Really gonna risk being guiltied just to get Ali out of the game?

i'm here if that's what you are asking

What, specifically, did you get last night as a result? You say you didn't get a result at all? Answer quickly please.

ok full disclosure

town loyal mailman

i get to send a message to a player every night
town gets the message
scum doesn't

if i was NK'd (fully expecting to be), Ali would get a message with information
the message was worded in a way that is undoubtebly coming from me and he would be able to prove so in game

if ali is scum then it was a waste upon my NK

What motivation was there to fakeclaim Cop?

did you even crumb your target?

In post 1479, Klick wrote:What motivation was there to fakeclaim Cop?

were you actually reading D1?

it seems you even missed my claim, so did you go through all of it? if you did I'd think you know why

In post 1480, Tchill13 wrote:did you even crumb your target?

i don't do crumbs ever

I didn't miss your claim, and I was keeping up surprisingly well all things considered.

Humor me?

In post 1479, Klick wrote:What motivation was there to fakeclaim Cop?

think about this. what motivation do I as SCUM have to fakeclaim cop?

I'm not going to answer your question for you. I'm not convinced you have any legitimate reason to fakeclaim as town in that circumstance. I can think of pretty good reasoning as scum.

If you're telling the truth, this would be the second time town needlessly lied about their role in this game and there's a large part of me that really doesn't want that to be the case.

Hell yeah klick.

And I would suggest crumbing from now on based on the fact alone that crumbing isn't near as stupid as claiming cop day one.

You've gotta be the lynch unless I can clear you with that "dumb town" stuff I used for flippynips.

And I'm not sure I have two of those in me in the same game.

Is it possible to tell us what was in the message you sent to Alisae?

In post 1485, Klick wrote:I'm not going to answer your question for you. I'm not convinced you have any legitimate reason to fakeclaim as town in that circumstance. I can think of pretty good reasoning as scum.

In post 1486, Klick wrote:If you're telling the truth, this would be the second time town needlessly lied about their role in this game and there's a large part of me that really doesn't want that to be the case.

it's not needlessly lying

it put an unconfirmed Ali in a very uncomfortable spot at that moment and that is what i was trying to achieve

a good reason to fakeclaim cop as scum? i want to hear about this. it would guarantee a scum dying before lategame simply for being alive

also it's not really a fakeclaim

In post 1487, Tchill13 wrote:Hell yeah klick

why are you treating your scumread like this?

In post 1488, Luca Blight wrote:Is it possible to tell us what was in the message you sent to Alisae?

information about my role

also some personal stuff unrelated to this particular game that would make it clear to Ali who the message came from

the request to use the word 'rawr!' in his opening post D2

In post 1489, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1485, Klick wrote:I'm not going to answer your question for you. I'm not convinced you have any legitimate reason to fakeclaim as town in that circumstance. I can think of pretty good reasoning as scum.

In post 1486, Klick wrote:If you're telling the truth, this would be the second time town needlessly lied about their role in this game and there's a large part of me that really doesn't want that to be the case.

it's not needlessly lying

it put an unconfirmed Ali in a very uncomfortable spot at that moment and that is what i was trying to achieve

This is also achieved by claiming Town Loyal Mailman - which is apparently your role.

Try again.

In post 1478, Iconeum wrote:ok full disclosure

town loyal mailman

i get to send a message to a player every night
town gets the message
scum doesn't

if i was NK'd (fully expecting to be), Ali would get a message with information
the message was worded in a way that is undoubtebly coming from me and he would be able to prove so in game

if ali is scum then it was a waste upon my NK

Why the hell wouldn't you crumb with a LOYAL role.

Seriously dude I don't understand. Crumbing is "beneath" you but fake claiming cop d1 isn't?

What a destructive mindset to try and eat the nk while investigating Ali. That doesn't even MAKE SENSE.

Especially considering you could crumb your invest, if you die because of your loyal modifier scum simply can't avoid being outed.

If you die and there's only one death town have to take into consideration that you were the scum nk even if they find your crumb.

So both scenarios leave town with more to work with than "ah screw it if Ali is scum town will never find out anyway because I'll either die to my modifier or be night killed"

In no way shape or form can you POSSIBLY even think you're going to help us with that plan.

What you've provided isn't a plan to help town. It's an excuse to cover up that you're scum.

Unless I missed something?

okay sure kill me

Tbh I saw the claim and thought it was a fake-claim by Town at the time. Right now I need to look over stuff (I will continue later) but I'm leaning towards Icon telling the truth here.

I actually quite like Klick's questioning here - makes me feel a bit better about him.

It's funny how Tchill missed the original claim - I'm not sure right now if it makes him more or less likely to be scum, but on first impressions possibly the latter.

if you truthfully think i am going to claim COP of all things as SCUM, you don't know what you are doing

why would I even claim anything at all at that time as scum? i was under little to no pressure. and COP of all things

You still haven't given sufficient town motivation to lie.

In post 1494, Iconeum wrote:okay sure kill me

So you're mad at me for following a legitimate line of thinking?

I shouldn't kill you just because scum shouldn't claim cop d1?

TOWN SHOULD NOT CLAIM COP DAY ONE. HOW ABOUT THAT?

Sheesh. Sick and tired of this solo gambit shit. And then they (the player lying for no reason) get fed up when I don't want to put up with their crap. This gets SO damn old... It's why I quit this site for a year.

Explain yourself. Explain what part of my like of thinking about you not being able to help town AT ALL with your plan is wrong.