Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:33 pm
I do like your posts wrt Mena (not) hammering alimdia
Pedit: icon if you now vote Menalque too I'll beat you with a stick
Pedit: icon if you now vote Menalque too I'll beat you with a stick
ok so why don't you try and look at it from a different perspectiveIn post 1472, alimdia wrote:Its not a lol-hammerIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem is only scum!Menalque would care
He gave intent
He gave intent + 30 mins warning
Everyone was still posting in that time
He had a 'free' hammer after that 30 mins but didn't hammer.
In post 1475, Datisi wrote:I do like your posts wrt Mena (not) hammering alimdia
Pedit: icon if you now vote Menalque too I'll beat you with a stick
What's similar between Datisi and I?In post 1471, alimdia wrote: And I've sort of given Pops a free pass because I see similarities in the way she is typing compared to Datisi so in my mind I gave her a pass.
Also what's the idea behind this? Town does not care if they get lynched?In post 1474, Iconeum wrote:this is exactly what i'm thinkingIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem isonly scum!Menalque would care
This is a very good case tho.In post 1453, Wickedestjr wrote:I'm done responding to things tonight, I'll follow up with people tomorrow perhaps.
I haven't had enough time to push Menalque.
Ireallythink people should consider voting Menalque with me today. I think I have a unique vantage point on his scum-meta right now seeing as I just watched him play for the last month with the knowledge that he was scum. His play here looks very similar.
Two quick points that I would like to make before I sleep:
1. I know that he strongly prefers town but his play here is not at all reminiscent of someone that is genuinely trying to scum-hunt or playing the alignment that they want to be playing.It feels like he's playing an uninvested scum game.
- In this post from yesterday, he says that Alduskkel and I haven't done anything strongly alignment indicative yet he expresses intent to hammer both of us within the next few hours of writing this post: here and here. Town shouldn't be so easily willing to lynch their POE reads when we still have half the day left.
- If you will indulge my narcissism for a moment, he says at the beginning of the game that I'm one of the specific players he intended to get a read on and vote or sheep. And coming into this game, I would have expected him to want to interact with me. However, he has completely ignored me for most of the game. He has made no effort to determine my alignment or respond to my criticisms/questions to him. This feels really off to me, especially in combination with me voting for him and him being willing to hammer me so abruptly.
- It feels unnatural how he went from confidently scum reading Wimpy to now slowly backing off of that read now that pops has replaced in. I understand that he got angry at Wimpy and appreciate him admitting he crossed the line. But it feels like a convenient and intentional transition given that pops is either a more difficult mis-lynch or a stronger teammate for him if he's scum.
2. There are a number of specific posts that he's made that feel like they're intended to give the appearance of scum-hunting without actually having genuine intent. Two examples of this that immediately come to mind:
- Here he warns me that he expects more posting from me than in our previous game. It feels like him trying to give off the appearance that he's sorting me even though it would have been better for him to wait and see how active I actually turn out to be rather than instructing me preemptively like this.
- He repeatedly asks Ico to explain why he started townreading Mena even though Ico explained it. Ico literally responds by quoting previous posts and that's the end of the conversation. So it doesn't feel like Mena actually cared about this even though he asked multiple times. I feel like this is an attempt to earn townpoints by questioning the thing that scum-him would inherently want (people townreading him).
wrt = with regard to?
Your chattering, I'm gonna say online personality, or as much can be seen over the internet.In post 1479, popsofctown wrote:What's similar between Datisi and I?In post 1471, alimdia wrote: And I've sort of given Pops a free pass because I see similarities in the way she is typing compared to Datisi so in my mind I gave her a pass.
Town cares a whole lot less about making mistakes, especially D1. Scum have a lot more on their mind, they wanna make it to endgame. TheyIn post 1481, Datisi wrote:Also what's the idea behind this? Town does not care if they get lynched?In post 1474, Iconeum wrote:this is exactly what i'm thinkingIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem isonly scum!Menalque would care
well now i'm super triggered about alimdia comparing usIn post 1481, Datisi wrote:Also what's the idea behind this? Town does not care if they get lynched?In post 1474, Iconeum wrote:this is exactly what i'm thinkingIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem isonly scum!Menalque would care
That's how i used i
I guess I don't see motivation for 'passing on free hammer' as scum. So let's analyse if it's free or notIn post 1477, Iconeum wrote:ok so why don't you try and look at it from a different perspectiveIn post 1472, alimdia wrote:Its not a lol-hammerIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem is only scum!Menalque would care
He gave intent
He gave intent + 30 mins warning
Everyone was still posting in that time
He had a 'free' hammer after that 30 mins but didn't hammer.
why do you think menal passed on that free hammer then? what's his motivation for doing so?
wrt means "with respect to", which is almost synonymous with "with regards to".In post 1483, alimdia wrote:wrt = with regard to?
THIS IS NOT HOW PAGETOP WORKS
Your chattering, I'm gonna say online personality, or as much can be seen over the internet.In post 1479, popsofctown wrote:What's similar between Datisi and I?In post 1471, alimdia wrote: And I've sort of given Pops a free pass because I see similarities in the way she is typing compared to Datisi so in my mind I gave her a pass.
You said it right thereIn post 1484, Iconeum wrote:Towncares a whole lot less about making mistakes, especially D1. Scum have a lot more on their mind, they wanna make it to endgame. They need to stay alive. Scum!Menal mislynching there would make him town's prime target on D2. While town!Menal mislynching there would also make him town's prime target D2, he wouldn't care as much about it. Also, there's a chance town!menal gets a scumlynch. Do you think he'd back down from that opportunity after Aldus refused to claim?
scum can't trade 1 town lynch for 1 scum lynchIn post 1487, alimdia wrote:Lets say Mena is scum. He gets the hammer off, even if he gets lynched tomorrow as scum his scum buddy is probably very well hidden.
Nah, I think Menalque is pretty cocky and would prefer to sweep or endgame himself rather than set up a partnerIn post 1487, alimdia wrote:I guess I don't see motivation for 'passing on free hammer' as scum. So let's analyse if it's free or notIn post 1477, Iconeum wrote:ok so why don't you try and look at it from a different perspectiveIn post 1472, alimdia wrote:Its not a lol-hammerIn post 1470, popsofctown wrote:Room temperature takeIn post 1468, alimdia wrote:@Wicked, The problem with your case is that Mena had the ability to hammer Aldu. Even waited 30 mins and stuff - he could have gotten a 'free' hammer off as scum
It'd have very negative consequences for Menalque's slot to lolhammer Alduskkel and the problem is only scum!Menalque would care
He gave intent
He gave intent + 30 mins warning
Everyone was still posting in that time
He had a 'free' hammer after that 30 mins but didn't hammer.
why do you think menal passed on that free hammer then? what's his motivation for doing so?
You were yelling at Aldu for being scum while it was happening (not claiming etc), while also half telling Mena he should post content etc.
So it looked like a free hammer.
Lets say Mena is scum. He gets the hammer off, even if he gets lynched tomorrow as scum his scum buddy is probably very well hidden.
Also Also Also
You want him to hammer
but you want to hang Mena because he didn't hammer
but if he hammers and it flips town you also want to hang Mena????
The thing is emps fluffposting without catching up while pops is doing it live. Also pops has SOME content. Or maybe she just has a really good social game. I'd rather be in Day 2 or whatever with you guys than emps, and we all know emps isn't getting NKedIn post 1486, Datisi wrote:That's how i used i
And YES IT IS
also i kinda find it weird that emps fluffpostings calls for a policy but pops earns her a sorta-TR but ok
Also Also Also
You want him to hammer
but you want to hang Mena because he didn't hammer
but if he hammers and it flips town you also want to hang Mena????
Tbh i kinda call bs on thatIn post 1485, popsofctown wrote:survivalism tells are some of the most reliable ones in mafia
i didn't want mena to hammer? i only wanted a claim to get movingIn post 1487, alimdia wrote:Also Also Also
You want him to hammer
but you want to hang Mena because he didn't hammer
but if he hammers and it flips town you also want to hang Mena????