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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:13 pm
by Klick
In post 1460, Deimos27 wrote:Klick can you link a scumgame or two
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83208
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=82266

These are the only two scum games I've played in the past like 3-4 years. The first one ended not very long ago and is a bit more standard than the second.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:16 pm
by Alduskkel
can't believe i've been prodded on the anniversary of america emerging from britain's vagina

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:18 pm
by Alduskkel
i feel like i have 0 clout in this game and it's very frustrating because it's like no one really listens to my reads

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:19 pm
by Klick
I just skimmed the last dozen or so posts of your ISO
What are your reads???

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by Alduskkel
sorry I got distracted playing brawlhalla

anyway I still think we should lynch pooky
SS and deimos still town
DC scummy but off coalition so eh
koba/chemist most likely town
moderate townread on you
mixed feelings about wug and clover

would like to hear more from chemist, particularly his reads on SS and clover. I doubt I'll change my mind on SS but I'm interested in a different PoV. Also this was a decent point

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:27 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
aldus are u even playing the same game as us

DC is basically locktown at this point

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:45 pm
by Alduskkel
how is DC locktown??

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:50 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ISO DC right before coalition locked

there's no reason scum fights that hard to get onto a failed coalition.

I actually think it's more likely scum do what you and wug do - which is just chill and not really care about being on or not because your partner is already on it.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:52 pm
by Alduskkel
uh I wasn't chill you guys just suddenly pushed it through while I was offline, that's not the same thing

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:57 pm
by Alduskkel
i have trouble seeing DC as town partly because of the amount he's been going "I would do this this and this if I were scum, not this" and I'm just like ew

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:05 pm
by SleeperSoul
You guys were right about me opportunistically jumping on koba. It was mostly out of frustration. The replacement is having a positive effect on the game imo.

@Pooky I like your line of thinking regarding scum laying relatively low because they didn't need to fight to get 1 into the co. But I still think we should ex within the co first. Who would you ex if you had to pick someone within the coalition?

I think clover fits the bill for a scum that quietly accepted their place in the coalition. I'm hoping the wagon that formed on koba's slot was just out of frustration.

VOTE: clover

Not sure why you think DC is locktown but okay.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:48 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1483, Alduskkel wrote:uh I wasn't chill you guys just suddenly pushed it through while I was offline, that's not the same thing
r u serious, you barely even participating in this game

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:51 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1485, SleeperSoul wrote:Not sure why you think DC is locktown but okay.
my initial read on DC was always that he was town cuz he felt really excited to solve this game and get a coalition through that would win the game.

Like you re-read his first 20 posts - it's all about how he's gotten pretty good at reading this game - he "solved" 2 of the previous games or whatever correctly and he's gonna solve this game and everyone just sheep him and he put together a winning coalition and if it fails then he gets lynched.

This all felt super genuine and I think he was super pumped and that's why I had him as locked in on my orig coalition - then he basically kinda faded out after Koba spammed their way into the game and took control and things got crazy.

So I understand his emotion trying to fight his way on near the end and then the violent reaction towards the coalition failing.

All of this feels super-townie to me and I just can't see him acting all this shit out if he's scum with a buddy already on coalition.

vote Clover


I think Clover's a good spot to start if we're lynching on coalition.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:55 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1483, Alduskkel wrote:uh I wasn't chill you guys just suddenly pushed it through while I was offline, that's not the same thing


votato Jun 23, 03:30pm Jun 25, 03:20pm 9 days 12 hours 75
Clover Ebi Jun 23, 05:13pm Jul 04, 12:47pm 0 days 15 hours 53
Alduskkel Jun 23, 09:59pm Jul 05, 02:57am 0 days 0 hours 51
Tuxedo Mask Jun 23, 04:46pm Jun 24, 11:28pm 10 days 4 hours 36
Wug Jun 25, 03:30pm Jul 03, 03:44pm 1 day 12 hours 28
Chemist1422 Jul 03, 05:04pm Jul 04, 05:38pm 0 days 10 hours 11
bugspray Jun 23, 01:21pm Jun 23, 08:59pm 11 days 6 hours 2


You got 25 less posts than votato who replaced out like 9 days ago
the only person with less posts than you are wug/chemist who are replacements who weren't here at game start. You've been literally just lurking through without a care in the world.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:16 pm
by Wug
In post 1485, SleeperSoul wrote:You guys were right about me opportunistically jumping on koba. It was mostly out of frustration. The replacement is having a positive effect on the game imo.
ok sleeper is town
i think everyone else thought this and i kind of did too but now i think it more

klick and pooky i still think are town too

clover is a good lunch

VOTE: clover

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:29 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1488, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1483, Alduskkel wrote:uh I wasn't chill you guys just suddenly pushed it through while I was offline, that's not the same thing


votato Jun 23, 03:30pm Jun 25, 03:20pm 9 days 12 hours 75
Clover Ebi Jun 23, 05:13pm Jul 04, 12:47pm 0 days 15 hours 53
Alduskkel Jun 23, 09:59pm Jul 05, 02:57am 0 days 0 hours 51
Tuxedo Mask Jun 23, 04:46pm Jun 24, 11:28pm 10 days 4 hours 36
Wug Jun 25, 03:30pm Jul 03, 03:44pm 1 day 12 hours 28
Chemist1422 Jul 03, 05:04pm Jul 04, 05:38pm 0 days 10 hours 11
bugspray Jun 23, 01:21pm Jun 23, 08:59pm 11 days 6 hours 2


You got 25 less posts than votato who replaced out like 9 days ago
the only person with less posts than you are wug/chemist who are replacements who weren't here at game start. You've been literally just lurking through without a care in the world.
post count is not a good measure of activity

also being on the lower end of post count is just my M.O., check any of my recent games

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:23 pm
by Datisi
Vote count 1.38

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)


execution
Clover Ebi (3):
SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):
Alduskkel, Clover Ebi
Chemist1422 (1):
Klick
Wug (1):
Chemist1422

not voting (2):
DonCorleone, Deimos27


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mod notes
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:26 pm
by Datisi
Prodding DonCorleone.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:32 am
by Chemist1422
In post 1489, Wug wrote:
In post 1485, SleeperSoul wrote:You guys were right about me opportunistically jumping on koba. It was mostly out of frustration. The replacement is having a positive effect on the game imo.
ok sleeper is town
i think everyone else thought this and i kind of did too but now i think it more

klick and pooky i still think are town too

clover is a good lunch

VOTE: clover
I got the opposite effect from that post

I think him jumping off after the wagon died out is not a good look

VOTE: Sleeper

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:59 am
by Wug
"yes i am opportunistic" is not a thing scum says

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:50 am
by Chemist1422
In post 1494, Wug wrote:"yes i am opportunistic" is not a thing scum says
Not without a good justification

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:01 am
by Deimos27
Hmhmhmhm I can't say I have a particularly strong desire to execute whomever Wug is voting but if Clover doesn't materialise I feel like I probably should. Atm I'm leaning more in the direction of PoEing Sleeper or Pooky out of here.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:03 am
by Deimos27
Also I urge everyone who doesn't know Klick's meta to ISO them briefly in those links cause their scumplay just emanates competence.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:03 am
by Deimos27
And hence I have a renewed paranoia about their ability to fake the posts in this game.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:50 am
by Klick
I appreciate that :P

I don't think it's particularly valid to townread me simply based on depth of content in my catch-up, no.
Thr main difference I've noticed in my recent town game compared to my recent scum game is that when I'm scum, I have a fairly strong agenda in whatever I'm doing that helps the team out in some way. (In the first game a lot of my actions were specifically geared towards ensuring Gypyx could make it to LyLo with a bunch of other potential partners to me; in the second game it was similar, I wanted to look like an unlikely partner to Cat Scratch Fever.) Whereas when I'm town, the motives I have aren't as clearly in line with a scum wincon.

Something I found when playing my last game is that I put myself into a more confident mindset as scum. As town I lack a lot of confidence (at least internally) and only really push for the things I feel very strongly about (see Clover-town here; I probably wouldn't lose much sleep over other wagons on the coalition, though I would place bets on Kobaslot flipping scum at this point). It's a lot easier to push the gamestate around as scum.


I'm also feeling particularly unmotivated when it comes to posting in this game and I imagine that wouldn't currently be the case if I were scum in this position.