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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:57 am
by chkflip
In post 1458, Starbuck wrote:I'm not impressed by Lavender's reads list. There's no actual talk of the current game state or anything that's happened at all. She seems busy and from what I'm seeing, you all say that she did the same in the last game. I appreciate the effort, but I'm still just as null on her as I was before 1432. If all she's going to do is prodge, that's pretty unfair to those who are here and contributing. It's not a shreddable offense, more irritating than anything.
In post 1465, a2rudeboy wrote:Chk did. To produce a reads list. Which she gave us, and as already been discussed, wasn't really worth much of anything.
Also, I apparently was unaware that direct questions need to be asked for a person to produce content.
You're both fishing at the same pond so I'll go ahead and address you both. As I already stated, yes, the reads list needs improvement. Thank you for addressing where her weaknesses are so the addendum to the two-part list is that much better. Last game I played with her was her second-ish game (IIRC?) So I'm kind of old-school IC hatting to push for what we actually need from the slot. It's obvious she is inexperienced and simply doesn't know better. A quick skim through her game history will show you what I mean when I say this is an improvement. In no way am I saying it's enough. We'll get her there it just might not happen in this day phase.
I think I smell what NPOM is cooking but I'm not particularly willing to move my vote just yet just in case.
Looker: the word was self-esteem. That's not the droid you're looking for. What are your reads?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:02 am
by Starbuck
@chkflip To be fair, I didn't expect for her to dive into a reads list. I'm more interested in her thoughts on what's going on. I just was hoping for some commentary on the game, which usually involves stating some reads along the way anyways. I'm not sure where the pressure for a full 20+ reads list is coming from on Day 1 (for anyone, let alone Lavender) or why folks are feeling the need to do them. No one expects you to have everyone read and sorted into piles right now.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:02 am
by a2rudeboy
In post 1474, Almost50 wrote: In post 1426, a2rudeboy wrote:Lavender for me doesn't have any pure scum tells, other than lurking and not providing a single damn relevant post, even after promising to do so.
Huh, i guess those ARE scumtells in a way.
The thing is that's exactly how she plays as TOWN. (I haven't even seen her scum game yet, but I witnessed her town game 2 or 3 times already)
even if that's how she plays as town, the question, is it helpful to town?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:05 am
by a2rudeboy
Post-edit: If we are dealing with as inexperienced as Chk is saying, and seeing signs of improvement. I am more than alright to keep her in the game.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:09 pm
by pisskop
Slanderer is intentionally not playing. No lower than any lurker.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:15 pm
by pisskop
You wanton vote hopping will look very bad late game. you should consider that its setting you up to be pushed.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:18 pm
by pisskop
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:21 pm
by pisskop
I mean, it would make sense.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:22 pm
by pisskop
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:23 pm
by pisskop
It always comes off as an overreaction when people say silly crap like 'we should lynch him for hardclaiming scum on D1' or 'he asked for a claim but we didnt accuse him of rolefishing' or 'he suggested a modkill, lets kill him'.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:25 pm
by pisskop
cmon, you can at least look over a vc and give a read.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:27 pm
by pisskop
In post 1474, Almost50 wrote:The thing is that's exactly how she plays as TOWN. (I haven't even seen her scum game yet, but I witnessed her town game 2 or 3 times already)
scum lavander can be bullied?
People like that, and A50, can burn later on if they start slipping away. I believe in giving people _some_ space.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:38 pm
by Galron
NPOM is top posting and I can't think of anything townie, let alone even a pretense of a defense other than "everyone voting me sucks."
Gamma's up there too and I can't think of much either way there.
a2rudeboy is in the top 3. He's probably town I guess, but I've essentially lost faith in this hunch he started the game with wrt NPOM and TD. I'm not afraid to admit that maybe I'm just not following it. I thought I was, but not now. If keeping NPOM around was helpful to town you'd think at the very least NPOM would put a little effort into not making everyone want to rip his face off.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:39 pm
by Galron
In post 1486, pisskop wrote: In post 1474, Almost50 wrote:The thing is that's exactly how she plays as TOWN. (I haven't even seen her scum game yet, but I witnessed her town game 2 or 3 times already)
scum lavander can be bullied?
People like that, and A50, can burn later on if they start slipping away. I believe in giving people _some_ space.
Lavender got rolled last game. chk's on point with that. I don't necessarily want her around in lylo, but there's no reason to kill her Day 1.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:07 pm
by pisskop
gams is playing somethign resembling his town game, but I havent seen a scum gams in a while, so . . . ?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:36 pm
by chkflip
Learn to stop being afraid and just love the NaPOM (wagon).
I'm DM'ing tonight. Will respond to things more tomorrow.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:41 pm
by Bambi Jay
In post 1490, chkflip wrote:Learn to stop being afraid and just love the NaPOM (wagon).
I'm DM'ing tonight. Will respond to things more tomorrow.
Roll to suduce the bar maid.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:46 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1459, Titus wrote:I don't like the NPOM wagon. Dude's just stubborn.
VC please
These votes are scrambling too much to see what wagons are changing to get a stronger feel for who is scum.
it's currently NPOM, IKS, and pisskop
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:51 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1487, Galron wrote:NPOM is top posting and I can't think of anything townie, let alone even a pretense of a defense other than "everyone voting me sucks."
Gamma's up there too and I can't think of much either way there.
a2rudeboy is in the top 3. He's probably town I guess, but I've essentially lost faith in this hunch he started the game with wrt NPOM and TD. I'm not afraid to admit that maybe I'm just not following it. I thought I was, but not now. If keeping NPOM around was helpful to town you'd think at the very least NPOM would put a little effort into not making everyone want to rip his face off.
I'm pretty much treating this game as a meme somewhat at least d1, that's why my signal to noise ratio is so low rn
I honestly expected to not be able to read even half of the game because of post volume, but I've actually managed to read the whole thing so far
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:21 pm
by Starbuck
In post 1491, Bambi Jay wrote: In post 1490, chkflip wrote:Learn to stop being afraid and just love the NaPOM (wagon).
I'm DM'ing tonight. Will respond to things more tomorrow.
Roll to suduce the bar maid.
Nat 1.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:25 pm
by Gamma Emerald
btw I hate people who spell it that way bcuz that's how the tiktokers would do it
it's sEduce
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:41 pm
by Bambi Jay
Bet. Roll the dice legit and post it here. We got a tag for it. Just roll it and post.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:49 pm
by Starbuck
In post 1496, Bambi Jay wrote:
Bet. Roll the dice legit and post it here. We got a tag for it. Just roll it and post.
In post 1, The Baker wrote:- Do not use any form of provable randomness. This includes dice tags, screenshots of random.org, etc. Saying you flipped a coin is okay, providing some sort of proof that you did isn’t.
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:58 pm
by Gamma Emerald
that's for actual mafia gameplay
that's just side stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:11 pm
by a2rudeboy
-roll to reinstate BEF's DayVig-