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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:08 am
by superbowl9
In post 1473, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Third one shouldn’t claim.
If one of you two die then that third one can confirm themselves as Third mason thing whatever you are, later.
Agreed. We discussed in our PT that we could almost act as activating ICs, which is why we didn’t claim post 1
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:08 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Superbowl... stop testing fate...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:08 am
by Almost50
In post 1462, Nero Cain wrote:0%
though the "is a 3p that can win with the town scum?" debate will prob flare up
We are not 3P "who can win with town". We are TOWN who appear as 3P to an alignment Cop. We canNOT win without the town winning, and we do not have any "extras" to our win-con, cor do we have an alternate win-con.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:09 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Bragging about a hidden crumb? Really...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:10 am
by superbowl9
Trust me norway if someone could find it I wouldn’t have said that
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:12 am
by Almost50
I used Miller because we do not return "Town" to alignment Cops. But we do not return Scum (Mafia) either. We return 3P. Do you have a better name for us? Because the mod didn't tell us we are "Millers" either, but rather "Town-aligned 3P" as superbowl said, but -in my mind- that IS a Miller modifier. So I am a Mason (because all 3 of us are confirmed town-aligned to each other) and a Miller (because I do not appear Town to an alignment Cop)
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:14 am
by superbowl9
Yes A50 we are functionally that but i think Nero thought that was your actual role based on how you claimed, which caused confusion.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:16 am
by samantha97
wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 am
by Menalque
so, we kill one of the two who've outed to make sure it's true then go from there?
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 am
by Ban Hydras
I still can't whether or not this is a troll
~Buttercup
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 am
by Almost50
In post 1482, samantha97 wrote:wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue
Take a wild guess. Who do you think it is? You have ONE shot at it.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:19 am
by Menalque
schadd_ wrote:
motifs of the series:
assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia; night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet.
incidentally: "uncertain guilties vs certain innocents, setup fake-outs" makes me think this could be a thing, but idk if A50, superbowl, and the third have enough experience with MBoS games to come up with this fake claim as scum
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:19 am
by Ban Hydras
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:20 am
by Menalque
what it is is a Spicy development
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:20 am
by samantha97
In post 1485, Almost50 wrote: In post 1482, samantha97 wrote:wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue
Take a wild guess. Who do you think it is? You have ONE shot at it.
so do you not wanna answer that question or?
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:20 am
by Almost50
In post 1483, Menalque wrote:so, we kill one of the two who've outed to make sure it's true then go from there?
TR on Menalque has just been revoked. Now I have TEN "potential scum" candidates on my list
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:22 am
by Nero Cain
Who are they and y?
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:23 am
by NorwegianboyEE
A50 i wanna give you a light playful tap on the head right now.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:23 am
by Ban Hydras
I'm skimming occasionally when I want a short break from work.
I buy the miller mason claim because of the A50/Norway conflict over it and because Superbowl was a solid townread and in that block of three. Three locktowns is nice.
Menalaque should know their take is terrible.
-Blossom
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:23 am
by Almost50
In post 1489, samantha97 wrote: In post 1485, Almost50 wrote: In post 1482, samantha97 wrote:wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue
Take a wild guess. Who do you think it is? You have ONE shot at it.
so do you not wanna answer that question or?
What was the question? I saw you suggesting the 3rd should Mason out, and I said you should guess them. Are you asking me to out my Mason buddy against their own will?
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:23 am
by Titus
In post 1482, samantha97 wrote:wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue
That would be a one night loss.
The odds of that happenening are 1 in / 23 -2 (outed "3p masons") -1 (cop won't check themselves).
So we get 1/20. Then minus the odds the cop gets roleblocked or either target gets nightkilled.
-nightkillshots -roleblocks on cop.
The worst thing if all of that happens right is the cop gets outed. Not worth it.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:25 am
by Titus
At least this gets us closer to lynching Taylor.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:27 am
by superbowl9
Yeah sorry your omgus was wrong buddy
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:27 am
by samantha97
In post 1494, Almost50 wrote:
What was the question? I saw you suggesting the 3rd should Mason out, and I said you should guess them. Are you asking me to out my Mason buddy against their own will?
the question was:
wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability?
do you agree/disagree? obviously because I think that it would risk wasting a night of a cop ability I do think they should claim though, yes
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:28 am
by Almost50
I won't list them until "our third" outs (if so they wish), As for the why, it's a combination of specific SRs, and PoE (I took off the ones I deemed are TRs). Town-hunting in a Large is a good strategy, especially when there are some high posters and some lurky ones (i.e. when I can't get reads on many either due to them not providing enough content or them talking too much to the point I dunno what they're saying anymore)