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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:32 pm
by Uncrowned
In post 1473, Something_Smart wrote:Echoing all the above sentiments, hope everything's all right.

Dave's EOD yesterday looks fairly towny.
How so?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:36 pm
by Uncrowned
Fwiw I also think that there are 2 scum on wagon and so far im leaning THP/Mena

Daves also seemed a bit too content to sit on wagon end of D1 but im less confident on that

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:37 pm
by Something_Smart
seems like a very weird thing for scum to post in twilight; it's bitter and affords some possibility of DGB flipping town, but also claims that possibility is unlikely. That's kind of the position I would expect town-dave to take ("man, I hope DGB wasn't town after this, but it's possible..."), and it's nuanced enough that it seems less likely to be fake.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:38 pm
by the worst
vote count 2.02


Menalque (3)
: skitter30, lilith2013, Infinity 324
TheGoldenParadox (2)
: Uncrowned, PenguinPower
Hoopla (1)
: TheGoldenParadox
petapan (1)
: JacksonVirgo
skitter30 (1)
: petapan
Dunnstral (1)
: Hoopla

Not voting
: davesaz, Something_Smart, Dunnstral, Menalque

Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-13 13:00:00)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.


mod notes
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- skitter30 v/la fridays & saturdays
- quack

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:40 pm
by Uncrowned
That sort of stuff is easily fakeable imo if anything it seems a bit overexplainy lol

Notice how skit, infinity, peta all on the same page were real brief about reacting to the self hammer? That seems more natural to me

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:41 pm
by Uncrowned
And TGP ^ I should add

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:42 pm
by Uncrowned
Like out of all the posting on that page reacting to self hammer Daves looks... <_< >_> ... the... the worst

Badump tsss

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:43 pm
by Something_Smart
It's not really overexplainy though, because it's not like he was underscoring how much he would be mad at DGB or whatever. Instead he's analyzing the situation.

Idk, that's just my thought.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:47 pm
by Uncrowned
Do you have any thoughts on the wagon?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:22 pm
by petapan
In post 1455, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1451, petapan wrote:VOTE: skitter30
oh *do* go on
don't care for the way you've started the day
In post 1425, TheGoldenParadox wrote:sorry, i meant limming/executing. there is no scum 1-shot vigilante, so we should avoid limming at the top of the draft because that would be hitting PRs which are a lot more important for town than scum.
it's extremely likely there are at least 2 scum in the top half of the draft
In post 1461, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1460, skitter30 wrote:jv is probably town too. i don't remember if i said that already
Idk I feel like they may be hiding behind this silly tunnel to avoid scumhunting
riding a shitpush because i called them on excessive fillerposting ain't town

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:23 pm
by davesaz
I suggest listening to the people who have played with me before, at least a little. ;)

My vote analyzer wasn't working at EOD yesterday -- the code to ignore votes inside quotes was also ignoring votes in some kinds of complex posts, which threw out a lot of them it should have been seeing. I was bugged about the numbers it was spitting out but the latest votes by each player were always right until Mena's 1309 wouldn't count. I actually thought it was E-1 at the point in time I suggested going back and counting, and didn't find out it was wrong until after the flip.

I think I have it fixed now. If it is working I'll be able to look at any inflection point without manually copying it all into a notepad and doing it by hand.

No, I don't have thoughts on the wagon yet.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:25 pm
by davesaz
In post 1484, petapan wrote:it's extremely likely there are at least 2 scum in the top half of the draft
If you have an actual objective reason to think this, it's probably too early to discuss in depth.
If you are basing this thought on the draft then you're probably buying in to a gambler's fallacy.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:26 pm
by davesaz
And by objective reason I'm implying a mechanic based reason that isn't a result.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:32 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1483, Uncrowned wrote:Do you have any thoughts on the wagon?
Honestly not really?

It was a fine wagon, and then DGB made a bad claim and started acting erratically. Acting erratically is towny in a vacuum but often townies don't want people to be rewarded for doing stuff like that, and obviously scum want to make sure their mis-execution doesn't slip away. So there's probably approximately equal incentive for town and scum to be on the wagon.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:33 pm
by petapan
In post 1486, davesaz wrote:
In post 1484, petapan wrote:it's extremely likely there are at least 2 scum in the top half of the draft
If you have an actual objective reason to think this, it's probably too early to discuss in depth.
If you are basing this thought on the draft then you're probably buying in to a gambler's fallacy.
scum doubling up still less likely than picking different numbers. i'm disagreeing with their tinfoil about hoopla

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:40 pm
by davesaz
People thinking it's unlikely is exactly the reason to do it. If I had rolled scum I would have hyperposted my partners into submission on this.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:45 pm
by petapan
don't especially scumread anyone down there besides jv though

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:54 pm
by JacksonVirgo
Not shitting you I’m going to hospital now because my own thing...

V/LA for 48 hours just in case

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:00 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
hope you and your loved ones are okay jv :/

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:16 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 1445, JacksonVirgo wrote:
DrippingGoofball (8): lilith2013, davesaz, Infinity 324, Menalque, PenguinPower, petapan, TheGoldenParadox, DrippingGoofball
If I had to guess, only 2 scum would likely be on here. Peta being one of them and PP and Paradox are both not scum due to vote placements. Leaving lilith, which is probably Town, and dave/menalque as I TR infinity.
I’ll do a consolidation vote on Mena since Dave’s tone is good and They’re the only one that could be scum outside of peta imo, and my push on peta is going nowhere for now but I definitely still SR the hell out of that slot

VOTE: Menalque

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:17 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 1493, TheGoldenParadox wrote:hope you and your loved ones are okay jv :/
Thank you, I’m good now I think

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:55 pm
by Uncrowned
Also a reminder

JV and Lilith were also wagoned D1 and didn't receive much, if any, resistance. Similar to DGB.

Content wise neither have appeared all that town to me but, based off of this information, it would point towards them both being town.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:57 pm
by Hoopla
In post 1496, Uncrowned wrote:JV and Lilith were also wagoned D1 and didn't receive much, if any, resistance. Similar to DGB
it might just be the flow of the game. seems like we've only been collectively pressuring one candidate at a time.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:00 am
by Hoopla
actually, going to switch to menalque. composition of this wagon looks pretty good, and i agree we should probably be executing from DGB's wagon.

dunnstral can wait for now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: menalque

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:01 am
by Hoopla
@SS

are you planning on voting today?