Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:53 am
Taylor can we make this happen
you said you're 95% confident I'm scum
you said you're 95% confident I'm scum
she soft-defended noraa and then jumped in front of her vote-train - fits her suicidal scum meta.In post 1473, Bell wrote:Why do you think taylor is scum.
This is a good list. I will get back to you soon-ish on shelly, but I believe she is town here.In post 1471, Bell wrote: I'm not sure. There's kind of like, 4-6 people I want to vote RN.
Lapsa, The guy that just replaced out. Hopkirk. Zdenek. pooky.
Maginally Theta
Pedit: I knew you'd say something like that.
hopkirk read is 1176 and elaborated on in 1457In post 1458, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why do you lean scum on hopkirk? why are teh other targets better? why a vote on adorable?In post 1450, Theta Alpine wrote:replying to hopkirk
i slightly lean scum on you
though i have several better targets
VOTE: adorable
i want to get a wagon on this
i do not want to read noraa at this pointUNOwen wrote:@Theta and Vaxkiller: 1426 is interested in what you think.
I felt there were things Noraa wasn't being 100% clear on and they both seemed like the kind of personalities to shout past each other in an argument so it was definitely plausible yeah.In post 1419, UNOwen wrote:Did you feel there was a misunderstanding from either Noraa or LLD?In post 1403, Hopkirk wrote: Upsides
IF Nora town - full picture of the situation reduces odds of misunderstanding
IF Nora scum - they can easily get caught out in a direct lie here
Either way - any interaction with Noraa helps inform our reads on the slot.
No downsides
I'll take a look at you again yeah. I've got at least three townreads saying you're town and you do have the kind of posting style I frequently (wrongly) gut tunnel so I want to reread you soon.In post 1425, MURDERCAT wrote:I thought it might work because I had a recent game where I baited an NK on N1 and the town PRs went on to play a big role in the win. But I have tried to interact with Noraa in many different places in many different ways.In post 1423, Hopkirk wrote:This is really bad phrasing. The last part feels like a lamist mediator talking words and ignoring why Noraa isn't working with us. Like if Noraa is town here in what world does she respond positiviely to 'work with us' and nothing else? In worlds of scum Noraa it doesn't matter sure, but if you care about the say 10% chance town Noraa (guessing your priors here) then this is a spaghetti weak appeal with only limpyness behind it.
100% sheeping a TR to pressure someone then? That's reasonable.In post 1434, MURDERCAT wrote:lol at this entire post but..In post 1431, Hopkirk wrote:Which ones? I think I only really commented on pretty obvtown slots?
..I was responding pretty directly to this, as in, I want to give Hopkirk space to respond to you and not just do what we did to Noraa agin.In post 1070, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
They townread me without a lot of good reasons and I didn't get great vibes.
Which of my games have you read?In post 1441, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it means I think you're a good playerIn post 1436, Hopkirk wrote:Can your explain this post? Frist 2/3 only.
Zdenek was the mech stuff in a big part then his later posting felt like he wasn't just waiting around on Norra. 685 was a nice post.In post 1446, Tayl0r Swift wrote:talk to me about denek and pooky?In post 1377, Hopkirk wrote:Shelly/Denek/Mush/LLD/Pooky/Taylor fairly obvtown as of p27.
Please do?In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote: i do not want to read noraa at this point
but strictly speaking
i want to believe noraa is town
but she does suspicious stuff that makes me doubt that is actually the case
I wasnt even aware LLD was still trying to kill nora. I'll write this on my to do list.In post 1426, UNOwen wrote:Question for anyone: Is there an overwhelming majority of players who think Noraa is scum or is there just an overwhelming majority of players who think LLD is going to make sure Noraa dies soon so aren't putting in too much effort?
none. Your writing is good enough that I don't feel the need to murder you every time I read one of your posts. I have a pretty low bar for LHF.In post 1481, Hopkirk wrote:Which of my games have you read?
tryhard taylor = scum-taylorIn post 1480, Bell wrote:I don't agree that I was throwing shade at him. I was genuinely curious. I know that hopkirk generally knows what towncred is and how to get it and his switch in posting style is designed to get it.
....@Pooky confession: I don't think I can read taylor. But she seems to be try harding which is new and exciting to me.
I am yes.In post 1483, Vaxkiller wrote: I wasnt even aware LLD was still trying to kill nora. I'll write this on my to do list.
Are you scum reading nora unowen?
i mean to actually answer your questionIn post 1482, UNOwen wrote:Please do?In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote: i do not want to read noraa at this point
but strictly speaking
i want to believe noraa is town
but she does suspicious stuff that makes me doubt that is actually the case
Or if not, do the suspicious things you see override any desire for her to be town to make you think she is scum?
How many games have you played with town Taylor?In post 1485, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: tryhard taylor = scum-taylor
town taylor is a lurker who posts shitty dog pictures
It was a pretty good one too since I think 3 people- notably Theta - jumped to agree with her. Pushing a low content slot for NAI stuff then seeing if people go along with you on something you don't agree with is a good way to catch out whether people are just agreeing with you.In post 1455, Vaxkiller wrote:I feel like its going to turn out that LLD's push on Hopkirk was just reaction testing like hopkirk said.
The 'I am willing to kill them' really doesn't line up with what came before it or from this imo if it's literally 'they made a blank post' and you thought all of the other stuff was NAI? Are you using 'kill' in a really weak sense, or do you not really care who's first lethaled here? I really don't get your point of view here since as far as I can tell if you're town that's happy to vote me for how I interacted with the wagon then I'd expect to see you looking at the early wagon and potential bussing/avoidance a lot more and I really don't get that from you yet.In post 1457, Theta Alpine wrote:hopkirk
almost the entirety of my scum lean on you is that you made a blank vote on a popular wagon
with slight influences from faking a post restriction and the way you agreed with another players reads without elaboration
and honestly the more i thought about the blank vote the less i wanted to kill you because it simply did not make sense for scum to behave that way if noraa is scum
but i am also operating under the assumption that noraa could be town in which case that would be a valid scum lean
so let me just say that i do not think you and noraa are scum together
my scum lean on you is conditional on noraa being town
I dropped the act because two people replaced out so I wouldn't get modkilled for dropping it, and also because there were a lot of pages. I realized 'oh yeah, it's literally impossible to catch up on thirty pages of stuff and comment on it with this, I really should have saved this for a micro shouldn't I'. I could commit to it hard yeah, but then It's going to take me literally five times as long to format everything right and you can probably tell I don't want to spend my time like that.In post 1459, Bell wrote:@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?
Really not a fan of your POE here. Can I get some more thoughts on all of those slots?In post 1471, Bell wrote:I'm not sure. There's kind of like, 4-6 people I want to vote RN.In post 1466, UNOwen wrote:Who would be your next vote?In post 1432, Bell wrote: Behavioralism. She's scum reading whoever gives her a hard time and town reads whoever doesn't. Also, I voted her way before she voted me so I can't be omgusing her, when she's omgusing me, but she keeps forgetting that.
Lapsa, The guy that just replaced out. Hopkirk. Zdenek. pooky.
Maginally Theta
Pedit: I knew you'd say something like that.
she tends to lack focus when she's townIn post 1490, Bell wrote:Back later.
@Pooky: I'll think about it. Though, her questions seem rather focused(?) for scum.
So you think he drew scum and planned to act out rhyming until things got bad, and then turned it around. Ok that would be a good strat, but your original post still seems shady to me.In post 1480, Bell wrote:I don't agree that I was throwing shade at him. I was genuinely curious. I know that hopkirk generally knows what towncred is and how to get it and his switch in posting style is designed to get it.
....@Pooky confession: I don't think I can read taylor. But she seems to be try harding which is new and exciting to me.
It seems like to me, you already had an answer to your own question (above) and weren't really looking for one. Hence the shade.In post 1459, Bell wrote:@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?
1 completed?In post 1488, UNOwen wrote:How many games have you played with town Taylor?
Ok. I also have a completed game with town Taylor, and really don't think "lurker who posts shitty dog pictures" fairly characterizes her play.
i mean i have shifted my vote to adorable twice now because their vote on noraa reads like either a bus or advancing an easy mislynchIn post 1491, Hopkirk wrote:In post 1455, Vaxkiller wrote:The 'I am willing to kill them' really doesn't line up with what came before it or from this imo if it's literally 'they made a blank post' and you thought all of the other stuff was NAI? Are you using 'kill' in a really weak sense, or do you not really care who's first lethaled here? I really don't get your point of view here since as far as I can tell if you're town that's happy to vote me for how I interacted with the wagon then I'd expect to see you looking at the early wagon and potential bussing/avoidance a lot more and I really don't get that from you yet.In post 1457, Theta Alpine wrote:hopkirk
almost the entirety of my scum lean on you is that you made a blank vote on a popular wagon
with slight influences from faking a post restriction and the way you agreed with another players reads without elaboration
and honestly the more i thought about the blank vote the less i wanted to kill you because it simply did not make sense for scum to behave that way if noraa is scum
but i am also operating under the assumption that noraa could be town in which case that would be a valid scum lean
so let me just say that i do not think you and noraa are scum together
my scum lean on you is conditional on noraa being town
So can you expand on the Noraa/Hop being different teams a bit? That's a hot take and I'm interested in why.In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote:hopkirk read is 1176 and elaborated on in 1457In post 1458, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why do you lean scum on hopkirk? why are teh other targets better? why a vote on adorable?In post 1450, Theta Alpine wrote:replying to hopkirk
i slightly lean scum on you
though i have several better targets
VOTE: adorable
i want to get a wagon on this
it is a conditional read so i guess that is technically fencesitting
but at this point i would not kill them today
i would want to see what noraa is first
adorable read is 832 and was elaborated on in 1191
tayl0r read is 1169
i do not want to read noraa at this pointUNOwen wrote:@Theta and Vaxkiller: 1426 is interested in what you think.
but strictly speaking
i want to believe noraa is town
but she does suspicious stuff that makes me doubt that is actually the case
Fortunately I'm self aware enough to recognize that I'd be actively making the game worse if I committed to actively harming my ability to talk properly. Unlike people who spend the entire game prod dodging until they get force replaced, or commit hard to other gimmicks that make them perma null I have the self awareness to realize that the gimmick had played out.In post 1480, Bell wrote:I don't agree that I was throwing shade at him. I was genuinely curious. I know that hopkirk generally knows what towncred is and how to get it and his switch in posting style is designed to get it.
....@Pooky confession: I don't think I can read taylor. But she seems to be try harding which is new and exciting to me.
I was pretty explicit about itIn post 1481, Hopkirk wrote:100% sheeping a TR to pressure someone then? That's reasonable.