wonder why osuka never pushed on lemons even though he was his most likely alternative
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 am
by Dunnstral
He had to keep up his claim which pushing lemons would not do
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:52 am
by Anya
didn't he claim that after lemons was pushing him and was a popular wagon though
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:55 am
by humaneatingmonkey
VOTE: Dunnstral Tell us your thoughts, man. You had interesting ideas yesterday.
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:56 am
by Dunnstral
In post 1491, humaneatingmonkey wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral Tell us your thoughts, man. You had interesting ideas yesterday.
It's not Egix
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:58 am
by humaneatingmonkey
How come?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:30 am
by InsidiousLemons
it's super wifomy and maybe not even worth considering, but it
does
kinda feel like osuka's "how can you trust anything i say" was meant to make me think dunn was scum based on these posts
In post 1426, osuka wrote:okay that's fine - we're saying dunnstral-osuka is not a strong associative. assuming i'm scum, doesn't that make him likely to be town?
if so - why wouldn't i put my vote behind the dunn wagon if i felt the game shifting towards a bugspray lynch? i'd rather have blood on my hands than a dead scum partner, because then in the absolute worst case (bugspray lynched d2) we've gained an extra day. how do you justify me not doing that? it makes zero sense to keep tunneling hem because his wagon was already really unlikely compared to dunn and bugspray, _and_ that was before it really was a choice between dunnstral and bugspray
In post 1432, InsidiousLemons wrote:mmm actually no dunn can still be your partner here. just because it isn't a strong associative in a scum direction doesn't mean it is a strong associative in a town direction. if a dunn lim wasn't looking preventable and the alternative was your other partner (bugspray), then sticking with the hem vote makes sense. if questioned about why you weren't on the dunn wagon, you could counter that you said you'd vote him and only didn't do so because you weren't in the thread when he got close to a lim.
not saying this is definitely what happened, but i don't think you not voting dunn makes him town automatically
i kind of was on the thread when we were very close to a dunnstral exec though. my last post, when i voted hem, was when dunn was at e-3, and only hours later he was at e-1 - can you really imagine a universe where that exec _doesn't_ go through if my vote is on there?
In post 1439, osuka wrote:there was some resistance to the hem wagon that was just not there with dunnstral. i voted and immediately after two more votes came along, which is almost exactly what happened with dunn (one vote came and another immediately followed). that shows two things: 1, it would be stupid for me, as scum, to not shift to dunnstral (if town), and 2, that may indicate that the dunnstral wagon actually had scum on it
In post 1440, osuka wrote:so for that reason alone i'm somewhat inclined to believe that dunnstral may be town. the only reason that slot is still alive is because of the bugspray flashtrain
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:34 am
by InsidiousLemons
dunn is right that both mafia being informed might point to 3 scum rather than 4. it is true that a traitor typically indicates an extra mafioso, but in this case i'm not so sure. it could go either way
it's also just incredibly strange to me that with humaneatingmonkey being on both scum wagons, he's still alive today. i can't imagine he would actually hard bus 2 partners right off the bat though so this has to be scum making some weird gambit, right? why would you leave a conftown alive in favour of killing some random townie? did they think they caught a PR crumb?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:36 am
by InsidiousLemons
i still think it's more likely dunn than not
VOTE: dunnstral
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:39 am
by InsidiousLemons
In post 887, bugspray wrote:VOTE: unvote urgh unfortunately dunn is right here
my dislike for osuka is personal and i would love to see this slot yeeted regardless of alignment with no regard to how town would be more informed by the flip or the utility of a rolestopper but argh
also this is not really game related but the fact that bugspray is actually this bad at distancing is hysterical to me
god love ya bugsy
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:45 am
by humaneatingmonkey
bugs didn't know osuka was scum
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:56 am
by T3
Dunnstral was one of the original bugspray pushers and thescum prs seems pretty powerful so I think there's only 1 scum left.