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Please do wait Bella. Let somnus get his additional clears. And we can decide what the best lim going forward is based on some flip scenarios. Even if you think I'm scum, we can look at all the scenarios and decide who is best to flip first.

I'm sad that you're reading me Scum but town is hard. Not like I had good reads this game. I fucked up on defending bbt so much and couldn't figure out how to read you at all bella. I also thought somnus was scum most of the game.

Just to make sure you understand, town!rad absolutely has this game solved through clears. If you're thinking I'm over confident here and that's scummy, town!rad literally has all the appropriate clears to know who is scum without having to read anyone here.

I gambled on town reads and used my vote to determine the game state. That is what happened this game. No way in hell do I do that as scum. That's not a controllable path.

I can take some time tonight to write up all the potential flip scenarios. Maybe there is one now that guarantees town victory. If you let somnus clear a somnus rad team I'm sure of it. Otherwise, maybe there is another one already and I'll do the work to figure it out. These will be unopinionated and logic based that include me as potential scum and Bella and somnus can decide their best path forward.

Bella - what are your top team reads right now? Any specific one that's pushing you to want to vote me?

I have a fun idea. Bella, you read somnus as town right?

Somnus, do you read me as town? If so, let's park our votes on corwin. That will rule out somnus bbt and rad bbt. It doesn't rule out somnus rad but Bella reads somnus as town so that shouldn't matter much.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: corwin

In fact my move here rules out somnus bbt as soon as somnus and bbt post. I can't remember if that is still a team potential cause I'm on my phone. Anyway doesn't matter cause now it for sure won't be.

Nm somnus bbt already clear cause corwin vote on me

My play remains though. This will clear rad bbt if somnus agrees to take the risk

Corwin thinks it’s Rad/Blueblood. If he goes with BlueBlood today, we already know Bella and I are cleared from being a BlueBlood partner. One of Bella and I eats a bullet, and you have Rad, Corwin, and a confirmed town tomorrow.

Going through these scenarios on the fly instead of at my computer makes me feel like a potato though.

And yes, from the perspective of Town!Rad, literally the only possible pairing at this point is BlueBlood/Corwin.

I’m not sure how many more hammer tests we can get away with here though. Like, I only asked Corwin if he wanted to clear Somnus/Corwin and Somnus/Rad because you both had opened that door at the start of Day 3, but I wasn’t around.

Like, what’s Town!Corwin’s plan/path to victory? Vote off Scum!Rad, and then what?

Final 3 of:

Corwin, BlueBlood, Bella. He knows he’s not surviving.
Corwin, BlueBlood, Somnus. Is he surviving that either?

Like...I don’t see a path for Town!Corwin to win here with his stance. At all.

In post 1485, Somnus wrote:I’m not sure how many more hammer tests we can get away with here though. Like, I only asked Corwin if he wanted to clear Somnus/Corwin and Somnus/Rad because you both had opened that door at the start of Day 3, but I wasn’t around.

To clarify, Somnus/Corwin has since been cleared anyway.

Like, from my stance, the best play is to vote off the player at this point who has been scum-read by:

Vasex (confirmed town)
Spartan (confirmed town)
Cheapside (confirmed town)
Whiskey (confirmed town)
Somnus (since mid to late Day 1)
Corwin (enough to put him at E-1 hours into Day 3)
Rad (who could theoretically be bussing)

And if all of that is wrong then GG to Rad and Corwin and it’s just a game and it’s been 20 days and I don’t think it would be the end of the world if all of those people are wrong and we’re finally free?

Somnus, do you feel comfortable putting your vote on corwin to clear me and bbt team?

If you read me town over corwin please take the risk. Bella is going to vote me over bbt. I need more data on me to help my case.

In post 1489, Rad wrote:Somnus, do you feel comfortable putting your vote on corwin to clear me and bbt team?

Not particularly, at the moment, but I think your solve is the most likely one.

In post 1490, Rad wrote:If you read me town over corwin please take the risk. Bella is going to vote me over bbt. I need more data on me to help my case.

I’ll have to have a 1 on 1 chat with Bella first.

It would be a lot of risk for me because it would only clear 1 of the 2 possible Rad teams and could straight-up lose the game.

I'd just like to point out that this is going to become the longest Newbie game of 2022 as far as post-count sometime tomorrow. And we're in Day 3.

Also, if the original mafia team was Italiano and Bosco...fuck me.

The only real "possible" teams remaining are my/bbt, rad/bbt, and me/rad. There are no more hammer tests, and no more safe vote testing. The path to victory is knowing bbt is the common denominator and just eliminating him tomorrow regardless of who he kills tonight.

Me/Somnus -> BBT
Me/Bella -> BBT
Bella/Somnus -> BBT.

Yes, you need to decide between me and Rad here. I'm asking you to seriously look at the player who's done a complete 180 from sheeping town and asking for guidance to driving a narrative, using false information, being misleading, and intentionally doing risky things that would either lose immediately or end in a low information day. Do take your time, look at the play today, look what's happened today -- I'm not the scummy one here.

In post 1496, Corwinoid wrote:The path to victory is knowing bbt is the common denominator and just eliminating him

tomorrow

regardless of who he kills tonight.

This right here is hilarious. BBT is the common denominator, so you should kill him tomorrow Right, got it corwin.

I'm going to do my team set up research now and see what I can come up with that might feel safe for Bella.

In post 1496, Corwinoid wrote:The only real "possible" teams remaining are my/bbt, rad/bbt, and me/rad. There are no more hammer tests, and no more safe vote testing. The path to victory is knowing bbt is the common denominator and just eliminating him tomorrow regardless of who he kills tonight.

Me/Somnus -> BBT
Me/Bella -> BBT
Bella/Somnus -> BBT.

Yes, you need to decide between me and Rad here. I'm asking you to seriously look at the player who's done a complete 180 from sheeping town and asking for guidance to driving a narrative, using false information, being misleading, and intentionally doing risky things that would either lose immediately or end in a low information day. Do take your time, look at the play today, look what's happened today -- I'm not the scummy one here.

There literally is no tomorrow if we take a 50/50 shot here and get it wrong. And even if we get it right, it certainly looks like whoever goes into Day 3 with BlueBlood and Bella is automatically going to get voted out, unfortunately.

I'm curious why BBT isn't voting me right now even though I'm confirmed scum on town!BBT's list of unknown pairs:

Rad / Somnus
Rad / Corwin

Could it be that he hasn't even analyzed a town!BBT's list of unknowns? Gee, why wouldn't town!BBT be doing that?

Why is he waiting for Bella to vote? BBT loves his vote. What does town!BBT have to lose from parking a vote on me?

In post 1402, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You're right, I usually love to throw my vote around.

Except when it could possibly lose me the game. Then, not so much.

Alright, let's see what happens.