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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:57 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:58 pm
by Rad
In post 1466, Bell wrote:
In post 1462, Rad wrote:
In post 1459, Bell wrote:My read on rad is tanking.
Someone correct me but they appear too gullible now and I'm starting to think it's fake.
Gullible how?
You sound like "gosh, how am I going to find scum when there are so many experienced people?"
It seems like you're trying to get people to underestimate you.
Yeah I lack confidence in my reads. This is nothing new. Sorry I'm newbie who openly believes it. Tbf I think my earlier reads are better than my rereads so I'm leaning a bit on that here.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:59 pm
by Bell
Okay. i like this game now. I mean i liked i already, but it's definitely improving,

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:59 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
Kinda think Corwin might be town. Don't quote me on this though

Pooky, I must know your secret for finding these gifs

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:00 pm
by Bellaphant
@rad, have you done a large before? I hate larges, I signed up because I love bbt and lost in about equal measure)
Naive, maybe?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:01 pm
by Bell
The one thing I'm very confident about is my lack of confidence in my reads.

@CSF they have the tone right, sort of. /: but it's meh.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:02 pm
by Rad
I signed up for bbt too rofl

This is the first large I've done. All my old 2014 games were small newbies. Maybe 1 or 2 non newbies but regular size.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:04 pm
by Bell
I'd say I play large themes more than any other category by quite a bit.
Less pressure and responsibility to get things right early and plenty of information to dig back t osolve the whole game if I'm unlucky enough to make it to elo.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:06 pm
by Rad
Zzz 3am bbl

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:07 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1470, Roden wrote:
In post 1456, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1433, Roden wrote:
In post 1428, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1419, Roden wrote:So you don't care about my read and you don't want to explain your reads
Not really, no. I care about your reads on the player list as a whole and I'll answer specific questions you ask which I can understand.
Why?
Because whatever reasoning brought you to the conclusion that I'm scum is incorrect. I also can't explain anything to you unless I can understand what kind of information you're looking for. As long as I can understand what you're asking and you aren't asking too much I'm willing to try to answer.
Why are you scum reading me then if you think I'm just wrong??
I think you've done nothing before this point to indicate to me that you're town, and I previously scumread you based on process of elimination and activity level. My read going into this evening was that I can reason my way to 1/3 in this game, and I believed there to be 1 scum between you/BBT/Corwin.

I do think that the way you're arguing with me now is more like a Town who is just wrong. That's new information though, I didn't start to think that until shortly after I read .

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:07 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1480, Bell wrote:The one thing I'm very confident about is my lack of confidence in my reads.

@CSF they have the tone right, sort of. /: but it's meh.
Do you have any other reads you want to talk about?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:10 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1478, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Kinda think Corwin might be town. Don't quote me on this though

Pooky, I must know your secret for finding these gifs
That's awkward, I think Ronen might be town.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:11 pm
by Bell
Right now? Not really.
Taly hasn't posted in the PT.
There are a lot of pots I'm watching and waiting to see if they're going to boil.

I don't think Frogster is scum. I guess it's possible they just toned themselves down at the bequest of their scum team, but like.
Probably not.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:18 pm
by Bellaphant
Hey @luke, why am I red for you? Can you come chat to me, I felt like we could have similar thoughts before (even when you were scum!) Some questions from you might help clarify my thinking overall.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:19 pm
by Bellaphant
@frog, why? I had Roden as one of those early gut reads, then they wavered a bit, but I think some of their interactions are ok.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:20 pm
by Frogsterking
I'm going to take a second (third?) look at Galron tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:21 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1489, Bellaphant wrote:@frog, why? I had Roden as one of those early gut reads, then they wavered a bit, but I think some of their interactions are ok.
I don't understand, you have them as town or scum now?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:22 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1407, Dunnstral wrote:Thanks for the clarification Lukewarm. I also don't need to find your dad.
thanks for the giggle

i don't really take issue with dunn scumreading me at this time. i haven't left my scum range at all. still curious why he's talking like a robot.

this is a real case of the metas but the fact roden hasn't done anything scummy yet is scummy

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:24 pm
by Cephrir
it's nice to know that whenever i want to pocket rad i can just make some pretty, rational sounding explanations and get a free pass :3

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:25 pm
by Roden
In post 1484, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1470, Roden wrote:
In post 1456, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1433, Roden wrote:
In post 1428, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1419, Roden wrote:So you don't care about my read and you don't want to explain your reads
Not really, no. I care about your reads on the player list as a whole and I'll answer specific questions you ask which I can understand.
Why?
Because whatever reasoning brought you to the conclusion that I'm scum is incorrect. I also can't explain anything to you unless I can understand what kind of information you're looking for. As long as I can understand what you're asking and you aren't asking too much I'm willing to try to answer.
Why are you scum reading me then if you think I'm just wrong??
I think you've done nothing before this point to indicate to me that you're town, and I previously scumread you based on process of elimination and activity level. My read going into this evening was that I can reason my way to 1/3 in this game, and I believed there to be 1 scum between you/BBT/Corwin.

I do think that the way you're arguing with me now is more like a Town who is just wrong. That's new information though, I didn't start to think that until shortly after I read .
I have a hard time believing this because you didn't even know I was voting you and I had to ask what your read on me even was. FMPOV you just realized I existed and said "yeah that can be scum I guess", and if you'd just said that I'd at least think you're being honest. But scum reading me through PoE and activity 48 hours into Day 1 doesn't sound like a real take. I think you've had a lot of takes so far that just don't sound real, like scum without any gumption.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:27 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1489, Bellaphant wrote:@frog, why? I had Roden as one of those early gut reads, then they wavered a bit, but I think some of their interactions are ok.
In post 1491, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1489, Bellaphant wrote:@frog, why? I had Roden as one of those early gut reads, then they wavered a bit, but I think some of their interactions are ok.
I don't understand, you have them as town or scum now?
Regardless, , Bella, Roden assumes I care about why he scum reads me. It suggests he values his read intrinsically, which makes me suspect he really believes what he's saying.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:31 pm
by Roden
In post 1492, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1407, Dunnstral wrote:Thanks for the clarification Lukewarm. I also don't need to find your dad.
thanks for the giggle

i don't really take issue with dunn scumreading me at this time. i haven't left my scum range at all. still curious why he's talking like a robot.

this is a real case of the metas but the fact roden hasn't done anything scummy yet is scummy
You were literally scum who said this about town!me in the last large theme we did lol

But also it's in your scum meta to snipe at people like this until they get tilted while you encourage people who trust you into following their tunnels

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:32 pm
by Bellaphant
They are town for your SS, but 'town but I have reservations ' irl. That makes sense though, that's sort of what I picked up when I said about interaction

@roden, I think frog is a bit....pinball, but I do think they believe what they are saying.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:33 pm
by Frogsterking
VOTE: Cephrir

I've seen about enough, Rad makes a good point about BBT being a likely red herring. I think the solving was better when there was a healthy Ceph wagon rather than a healthy BBT wagon. Let's get this game state back on track for Town.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:38 pm
by Bellaphant
In post 1493, Cephrir wrote:it's nice to know that whenever i want to pocket rad i can just make some pretty, rational sounding explanations and get a free pass :3

I know this is a joke but it makes me concerned on a personal level, because I am also this person.