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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:45 pm
by Titus
In post 1058, Roden wrote:
In post 1052, Andresvmb wrote:Titus could have been bussing but you would have to think they were on top of Ircher’s case very aggressively and maybe? It’s possible the Scum decided to take alternative tracks in order to not all get lumped together, but I seriously doubt all of the Scum bailed on Ircher immediately.
Ircher's role was pretty weak, and tbh Ircher gets run up D1 almost every game I play with him regardless of his alignment. I don't think he got hard bussed by his entire team, but I don't think they had much incentive to try to save him either. Best play for scum is for them to avoid being associated with Ircher at all IMO.
Absolutely bullshit. You've seen me play as scum. I almost
never
avoid my partners. I never avoid the major wagons. Ircher being run up every game is an easy thing to defend and I could have easily talked Ircher out of the noose and coached him. Ircher, being a less active poster, would be easy to Cyrano.

You'd be familiar with my scumgame but instead you're trying to push me because I was right and you're scared.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:45 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 1473, Titus wrote:Suggests a blatant denial of vca info since at least Ydrasse and mastina are universal TRs.
why do you think these are universal TRs?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:47 pm
by Ydrasse
omg im a universal tr?

that owns

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:47 pm
by Ydrasse
omg im a universal tr?

that owns

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:48 pm
by Titus
In post 1067, mastina wrote:
In post 1042, Roden wrote:
In post 1037, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1036, Roden wrote:Wow, that's really annoying. I targeted Peta last night.
Pray continue....
I'm a Mailman with a modifier. I sent him a message asking for advice on how to effectively play my role, and let him know I chose him since I believed he would be the most likely person to give solid advice regardless of his own alignment or his read on me.
Btw there's actually TWO reasons for why I think that this is a scumclaim from Roden, maybe 3.
jjh can probably get 1-2 of them, small outside chance of all 3.

But,
VOTE: Roden

Roden is effectively confscum with that claim.
I'm reluctant to call Roden confscum based on a claim. His claim does make sense for scum fearing a tracker, watcher or similar. Extra production makes it more likely he was investigated. It's a story that can stick.

I want to stick to play as things may not be as expected.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:52 pm
by Titus
In post 1088, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1084, Vivax wrote:I don't do hero shots, I kill those who refuse to play
It's a very obvious vig shot
Maybe learn to holster. Especially in a large where you ability probably has increasing cost to use.
But what if you're an egomaniac who shoots people to appease the VCA gods?

[Sarcastic joke]

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:56 pm
by Uncrowned
In post 1477, Ydrasse wrote:omg im a universal tr?

that owns
yeah currently we are locktowned homies congrats

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:05 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 1468, Vivax wrote:I have to holster tonight anyways I think.
Did you seriously fire an ability on night 1 that that needs >100% for its second fire, and choose to target it using a coin flip?

If so, that's pretty wild man.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:46 pm
by Roden
In post 1475, Titus wrote:
In post 1058, Roden wrote:
In post 1052, Andresvmb wrote:Titus could have been bussing but you would have to think they were on top of Ircher’s case very aggressively and maybe? It’s possible the Scum decided to take alternative tracks in order to not all get lumped together, but I seriously doubt all of the Scum bailed on Ircher immediately.
Ircher's role was pretty weak, and tbh Ircher gets run up D1 almost every game I play with him regardless of his alignment. I don't think he got hard bussed by his entire team, but I don't think they had much incentive to try to save him either. Best play for scum is for them to avoid being associated with Ircher at all IMO.
Absolutely bullshit. You've seen me play as scum. I almost
never
avoid my partners. I never avoid the major wagons. Ircher being run up every game is an easy thing to defend and I could have easily talked Ircher out of the noose and coached him. Ircher, being a less active poster, would be easy to Cyrano.

You'd be familiar with my scumgame but instead you're trying to push me because I was right and you're scared.
Keep reading, I already addressed my read on you.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:55 pm
by jjh927
In post 1269, Roden wrote:
In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1254, Roden wrote:
In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?
I already did........
I don't see where you did this. Go into full % cost details, please, unless your whole ability is just 5%

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:21 pm
by Malakittens
@titus:

Why is ydrasse an universal town read

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:31 pm
by Roden
In post 1484, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1269, Roden wrote:
In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1254, Roden wrote:
In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?
I already did........
I don't see where you did this. Go into full % cost details, please, unless your whole ability is just 5%
I gave you all the information I'm gonna give. I don't understand why you're obsessing over this detail because it literally does not matter; I'm the flip today and that isn't gonna change if I say anything else about it, so you're gonna know the exact details soon enough. Why exactly do you need to know this now even though you know you're getting the info you want in 24 hours or so? How exactly does knowing this right now affect a single thing in this game or help you solve anything? Like you just keep pushing on this and talking mech and doing almost nothing else, stop using me as an excuse to avoid giving content.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:36 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 1486, Roden wrote:
In post 1484, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1269, Roden wrote:
In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1254, Roden wrote:
In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?
I already did........
I don't see where you did this. Go into full % cost details, please, unless your whole ability is just 5%
I gave you all the information I'm gonna give. I don't understand why you're obsessing over this detail because it literally does not matter; I'm the flip today and that isn't gonna change if I say anything else about it, so you're gonna know the exact details soon enough. Why exactly do you need to know this now even though you know you're getting the info you want in 24 hours or so? How exactly does knowing this right now affect a single thing in this game or help you solve anything? Like you just keep pushing on this and talking mech and doing almost nothing else, stop using me as an excuse to avoid giving content.
Invitation to self pres on RC instead of eulogising yourself

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:40 pm
by Malakittens
They won’t cuz they scumbutts

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:40 pm
by Roden
If I vote RC it's gonna be clear that I'm just doing it to live, I'll get called scummy for it, and then I just die anyway. Then we get to see twenty Mastina posts calling me 99.452385723% scum and that she definitely has many reasons for why I'm scum. We won't actually
see
the reasons but it's ok for some reason.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:40 pm
by Roden
Exhibit A lmaoooo

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:43 pm
by Roden
Me trying to self preserve as town in Control literally lost town the game. I'm not doing that again.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:44 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 1488, Malakittens wrote:They won’t cuz they scumbutts
Serious read?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:45 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 1491, Roden wrote:Me trying to self preserve as town in Control literally lost town the game. I'm not doing that again.
I don't see how it could lose town the game here, at 17 players.

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:29 am
by jjh927
Maybe, Roden, just maybe, I am giving you an opportunity to reveal the missing details of your claim for which their absence makes your claim suspicious

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:34 am
by jjh927
To put it bluntly, I care about getting the info before your flip so I can make a decision about whether to flip you. If you want to act like you did in that gng upick then you can go right ahead and I'll treat this elim as a policy one. Right now I am doing due diligence on your claim in good faith with the intention of clearing up the things that Mastina thinks means you are lying, or otherwise proving them correct.

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:55 am
by Roden
Yeah, no. You're not going to change your mind about flipping me just because I tell you whatever it is you want to hear. You've done nothing to actually try to read me, and town!you would have no reason to believe I'm telling you the truth about anything regarding my role if you actually thought I was scum.

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:59 am
by Roden
It's the blatant dishonesty that really gets me here

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:12 am
by Vivax
In post 1482, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1468, Vivax wrote:I have to holster tonight anyways I think.
Did you seriously fire an ability on night 1 that that needs >100% for its second fire, and choose to target it using a coin flip?

If so, that's pretty wild man.
Or y'know, people could indeed play the game they signed up for without making it to flake control in the mod posts.
If BBT flipped scum I wouldn't be hearing of all this hindsight condescendence. It's a role you use for openscummers/lurkers, not for your scumreads.

This isn't productive, either way, and I'm not giving percentage details sorry. We already got past the tantrum stage I believed.

Preference remains RCE > Roden
Taking tinfoil on Ausuka & Titus for the legacy analysis from Luke (Ausuka being sassy semi-openscummer and Titus having a marked difference in characterizing Ircher's reason of absence from FG earlier on)

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:26 am
by Datisi
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