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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:44 am
by furtiveglance
Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
In post 1468, MalcolmTucker wrote:As town you can generally find a bit of a mix in terms of my contributions simply based on how much I can get into the game - been a couple where I was useless and disengaged without many reads, been others where I was a lot more open.
So are you “into” this one? I don’t see many useful contributions? Can you help me find yours?
I would say I've worked my way into it yes - last weekend I wasn't available so wasn't too vocal then but I'd argue I've been pretty consistent in having reads and views on the gamestate. I'm sort of confused here by how you're reading me - on the one hand you think I'm pretty loud and confident this game, on the other hand you don't think I have that many opinions or views.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:58 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 161, MalcolmTucker wrote:Agreed on Fennec, also feel Cape/Frog look town. Much of the posting feels TvT so far.
In post 186, MalcolmTucker wrote:Don't particularly understand all the early attention or the scumreads on Cape.
Nero has looked a bit more defensive but too early for anything on the level of a proper scumread on the slot so far.
In post 355, MalcolmTucker wrote:Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.
I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.
In post 390, MariaR wrote:I've been trying to think of if there's a worldview where Frog is just a villa who is wrong but I can't get over the fact they just made up a worldview that never existed to begin with, and acted like they had this grand bait scheme. (didn't happen)
MT needs to have more votes on them, just look at that iso and tell me that's a villager mindset and not someone just watching from the sides taking shots posting busywork. It's such an obvious wolf iso
This is a lazy post and feels like an attempt to shift attention away from their Frogster read which clearly wasn't happening onto me. I've been relatively low activity so far but "watching from the sides taking shots" doesn't make sense, either I am watching from the sides and doing nothing or I am taking shots and committing to reads. Can't be both.
In post 459, MariaR wrote:I'm more confident on MT being wolf than Frog so I'd go MT>Frog after my flip. Glad to see I still got it on the "no one can read my slot" after a year away heh.
Again really not seeing why Maria is "confident" in me being scum and probably teammates with Frogster at a point when I'd made a handful of posts, a light scumread is fine if you so wish, anyone saying they are confident of scum who's made a dozen or so posts feels like they're making it up aside from the odd genial read.
In post 514, KittyTacky wrote:I'm getting really bad vibes from Big Chungus Gaming, like the slot they replaced is a scum slot under pressure and they're flailing, I'll finish my catchup to vote atl.
I agree with Kitty's read here, BCG's posts have felt pretty trolly so far but not in a particularly natural or relaxed way, like they want to avoid posting content of note while using a more comedic tone to hide behind that.
In post 562, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:Also mariar is one of the best players of this game so the fact we have scumreads that align is a sign i think she is town between frog/maria
One of Maria/BCG seems likely, probably not paired. A world where BCG relies on town Maria being killed to them attempt to gain town-cred here seems possible.
In post 683, Frogsterking wrote:MT I'd like to hear your thoughts on Dragons now that you're almost caught up.
Not sure I'm seeing STD scum to be honest. They'd not contributed a lot but it can happen as town, especially in large games if things get busy. Their early posts were sparse but I'd argue there's genuine reads/content there. Their response to you felt a bit over the top but quite genuine as well - do you not think inactive scum would at least want to make an attempt to get you onside?
I found it slightly surprising you went for that vote actually when catching up (albeit I skimmed some pages) because it felt a bit out of nowhere as a confident read given STD's relative inactivity. I don't think it's coming from you as scum though, just an area of disagreement.
In post 726, MalcolmTucker wrote:On STD, the big rant against Frogster does deflect a bit...but I feel like STD has typically been much calmer/less confrontational when I've correctly accused them of being scum previously? Or more hedgy at least. It's making me lean more to frustrated town here. Scum want to win sceptic townies over and I don't feel like their responses to Frogster come with that intention.
FAO Math - as a sample I'd argue all of this demonstrates a pretty clear pattern of me having views on the gamestate and opinions on who is likely to be town/scum.
Marci accused me of going for an easy read in Maria but I'd argue I put out a reasonable and logical town defence of STD who was accumulating a fair few scumreads at the time.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:06 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:06 am
by marcistar
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
imagine thinking im confident
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:09 am
by marcistar
i think someone spiked my hot chocolate it tastes funky
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
imagine thinking im confident
What did you think of my response to your scumread post on me? Much of your contention with me seems to be based on stuff that's generally just how I play the game irrespective of alignment. I've explained why I've been noncommittal on some reads in particular (such as Furtive) while still having plenty of views in general.
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
It made me think AGAIN again about you, and now I'm still not sure on either of you.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:13 am
by marcistar
In post 1483, MalcolmTucker wrote:What did you think of my response to your scumread post on me? Much of your contention with me seems to be based on stuff that's generally just how I play the game irrespective of alignment. I've explained why I've been noncommittal on some reads in particular (such as Furtive) while still having plenty of views in general.
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
It made me think AGAIN again about you, and now I'm still not sure on either of you.
Maybe I'm too forgiving but on the basis of recent posts my read on you is slightly shifting back to town. I am finding your playstyle a bit different to previous games but I've also been in the position myself as town before where I'm just struggling for definitive reads and end up sounding a bit incoherent and uncertain as a result.
If you were scum here you'd be good enough to come across as a bit more decisive on some slots to try and cool down any criticism - I feel like your most recent posts seem kinda honest about where you're at.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:15 am
by Save The Dragons
I feel like MT has contributed a lot I'm confused why people think he didn't
I think I'd go for a MariaR wagon still I do not understand why people let up the gas on that one
Titus isn't really doing anything
I dunno where BCG went
Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor
I feel like if pooky were scum he'd be doing more or having some gimmick he does seem a little lackluster this game maybe I'm not sure what that means about his alignment
Fennec was pretty town and furtive hasn't done anything to change my mind on that
In post 1483, MalcolmTucker wrote:What did you think of my response to your scumread post on me? Much of your contention with me seems to be based on stuff that's generally just how I play the game irrespective of alignment. I've explained why I've been noncommittal on some reads in particular (such as Furtive) while still having plenty of views in general.
i didnt read it yet since im at work
but a knee ways
why would i listen to ur own thoughts on ur play
Because when your read is based on my playstyle primarily, it's relevant info to know that how I've played so far is perfectly within my range as a townie. Especially when your scumread doesn't have much beyond that.
In post 1476, furtiveglance wrote:Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.
No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade
VOTE: BigChungusGaming
What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.
It made me think AGAIN again about you, and now I'm still not sure on either of you.
Maybe I'm too forgiving but on the basis of recent posts my read on you is slightly shifting back to town. I am finding your playstyle a bit different to previous games but I've also been in the position myself as town before where I'm just struggling for definitive reads and end up sounding a bit incoherent and uncertain as a result.
If you were scum here you'd be good enough to come across as a bit more decisive on some slots to try and cool down any criticism - I feel like your most recent posts seem kinda honest about where you're at.
I feel like MT has contributed a lot I'm confused why people think he didn't
I think I'd go for a MariaR wagon still I do not understand why people let up the gas on that one
Titus isn't really doing anything
I dunno where BCG went
Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor
I feel like if pooky were scum he'd be doing more or having some gimmick he does seem a little lackluster this game maybe I'm not sure what that means about his alignment
Fennec was pretty town and furtive hasn't done anything to change my mind on that
I think because I'll often admit to my own uncertainty when making reads or because I'll often offer counterarguments to my own stances I end up looking noncommittal and indecisive but I'd argue I've had plenty of reads.
@Pooky, why do you think spammy Math is town Math?
cuz when hes scum he doesnt post proactively he's too busy hiding from me
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:35 am
by MathBlade
In post 1487, Save The Dragons wrote:I feel like MT has contributed a lot I'm confused why people think he didn't
I think I'd go for a MariaR wagon still I do not understand why people let up the gas on that one
Titus isn't really doing anything
I dunno where BCG went
Mathblade does seem town but I didn't like his predecessor
I feel like if pooky were scum he'd be doing more or having some gimmick he does seem a little lackluster this game maybe I'm not sure what that means about his alignment
Fennec was pretty town and furtive hasn't done anything to change my mind on that
The reason I thought he didn’t was Marci’s case
I like Malcolm’s recent posting and am downgrading him to null
I don’t get what he’s asking me about me being contradictory but other than that I get his posts.
