I'm ridiculously lost, and will need a day or two to catch up on stuff.
"JPS pulls himself up to safety as everyone else stands, looking at him in shock. But, in the end... they were proud of him. The group of innocents surround him and celebrate, lifting him high over head and praising JP. For today, he cemented his name in the history books.
Today, he would become a real American hero."- Kise
Thing is, Kdub defending gandalf, by way of attacking the attacker (dram), is a chainsaw defence, thus scummy. So if gandalf flips scum, Kdub is his buddy for defending him in said manner. geddit?
Thing is Chrono, that I don't really see it in this instance. It was an obvious twist of what was actually said (which I took as a jokey line as opposed to what Dram put), and so Kdub had good reason to point it out. Even if gandalf is scum, I wouldn't assume KDub is too, I'd say it was rather pro-town to point out something deliberately re-written to make someone sound scummier.
Still not hugely sure about the Quad wagon, but the fact he's admitted to keeping it in RVS because he's "making up creepy serial killer stories" sounds like he's not really worried about moving the game on and generating discussion, and the closest we've got is him asking Reck to explain the unvoting stuff. So my willingness to vote him has gone up somewhat through that.
Devotress wrote:
God forbid we have to decipher information in a game of mafia.
Yes I'm hoping for a protown/scum response.
Also wagon information is usefull throughout the game. Vote analysis, on like day 4, is huge, looking back at what wagon's people were willing to hop onto and when, etc.
That could get us no where. A scummer could say something so town like he's believed and a townie could say something scummy/freak out and we end up in a mis lynch. What are we gonna do, go around and bandwagon eveyone unlike we get a response you like? Any info that helps the town also helps the scum.
Devotress wrote:
Serious time.
@Prana, what's your opinion on the Quad wagon now that it's had some time and Quad has responded to it?
Why are you only asking him? There are a few other players in the game.
vote: Devo
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
dramonic wrote:I am voting gandalf because his sole post is saying he cant be accused of being scum because he hasnt posted.
That is quite scummy.
Nice twisting of what he actually said:
gandalf5166 wrote:I'd wonder how you could have figured me out when I've only made one post. >.<
This isnt twisting though. He's saying "how can you catch me as scum over one post?". IMO it's pretty similar to saying he can't be perceived as scum for that single post, thus scummy.
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-Being obtuse is not a consequence of being a mod, it's a prerequisite. I think you may just have overestimated my intelligence before.-Korts
Except it was in response to the earlier question of "What would you say if I said you were scum right now?" Hence the answer, which I take i nthe same vein as most others... not really serious at all, the fact you're willing to create a strawman attack on gandalf based on that alone however is well and truly noted.
It's not a strawman if he doesn't do anything to actually change that :S
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-Being obtuse is not a consequence of being a mod, it's a prerequisite. I think you may just have overestimated my intelligence before.-Korts
What's a strawman attack? And yeah, that response was definitely a joke. Also, I find it somewhat suspicious that Fate is not posting in caps.... Not to encourage him, however.
Devotress wrote:
God forbid we have to decipher information in a game of mafia.
Yes I'm hoping for a protown/scum response.
Also wagon information is usefull throughout the game. Vote analysis, on like day 4, is huge, looking back at what wagon's people were willing to hop onto and when, etc.
That could get us no where. A scummer could say something so town like he's believed and a townie could say something scummy/freak out and we end up in a mis lynch. What are we gonna do, go around and bandwagon eveyone unlike we get a response you like? Any info that helps the town also helps the scum.
How do you even suggest a game of mafia to be played? this is a serious question. If you say decifering information is bad, what the hell is this game to you? Wait for a cop claim?
Devotress wrote:
Serious time.
@Prana, what's your opinion on the Quad wagon now that it's had some time and Quad has responded to it?
Why are you only asking him? There are a few other players in the game.
vote: Devo
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He was online and had expressed, alongside you, disinterest in the quad wagon earlier. I was curious what he thought of the wagon now that we'd gotten a bad resonse from quad.
Nero is actually confusing me here. I've played with him (ooer) a few times (and even been scum with him before), and he's modded games... so him saying looking at what people are saying doesn't help is... strange at least. I'm not really sure how I feel about it yet though.
and Dram, a Strawman attack is a strawman no matter what else happens. It's the person making the attack which causes it to be a strawman, not the person being attacked.
In fact... right now my top suspect is Dram through the Strawman pushing. It reads to me like he saw the chance at having an easy lynch purely through shining a negative light on gandalfs post, and has been called on it, and thus is having to back it up despite the lack of an actual case.
Devotress wrote:
God forbid we have to decipher information in a game of mafia.
Yes I'm hoping for a protown/scum response.
Also wagon information is usefull throughout the game. Vote analysis, on like day 4, is huge, looking back at what wagon's people were willing to hop onto and when, etc.
That could get us no where. A scummer could say something so town like he's believed and a townie could say something scummy/freak out and we end up in a mis lynch. What are we gonna do, go around and bandwagon everyone unlike we get a response you like? Any info that helps the town also helps the scum.
How do you even suggest a game of mafia to be played? this is a serious question. If you say deciphering information is bad, what the hell is this game to you? Wait for a cop claim?
Not going around and starting bandwagons just to get a supposed reaction. I mean really, do you think scum or gonna be like "Oh you got me!". NOOO
Devotress wrote:
Serious time.
@Prana, what's your opinion on the Quad wagon now that it's had some time and Quad has responded to it?
Why are you only asking him? There are a few other players in the game.
vote: Devo
He was online and had expressed, alongside you, disinterest in the quad wagon earlier. I was curious what he thought of the wagon now that we'd gotten a bad response from quad.[/quote]
Still I don't buy it. So the guy was on, big deal. I still don't see why you would care about what he thought over all the other players.
Second part...ok Quad responded. Was it a town or scum response? Must be scum 'cause you haven't unvoted.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
A strawman would be something if I was actually misrepping what he said.
I don't believe I've misrepped him at all, so you can just stop launching the techspeak.
Also, Gandalf's newest post is no better.
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-Being obtuse is not a consequence of being a mod, it's a prerequisite. I think you may just have overestimated my intelligence before.-Korts
