Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TheAdmiral

I haven't done much more than skim the game, and I still know this guy's scum. Everyone else needs to step their games up >.>

[Furcolow]

I'm here

[Nachomamma8]

And why aren't you voting ThAdmiral, exactly?

[smargaret]

Furc - what was the point of that post? Your recent posting has been not good in a very anti-town way. If you're more pro-town, it'll be easier to read you.

Nacho - why is ThAd scum? The only thing I saw was some inconsistency regarding his read on me.

[DavidParker]

Well, I find him scummy but he's buddying me pretty hard so I'm okay not voting him for now.

[RedCoyote]

Well, I find him scummy but he's buddying me pretty hard so I'm okay not voting him for now.

David, this is horribly scummy. Do you really mean this?

You find him scummy but you don't want to vote him because he's buddying to you?

[ThAdmiral]

But I can tell you that this is definitely not pro-town behavior:

vote: poisonivy for the reason of survival.

It is if you are town.

Vote: TheAdmiral

I haven't done much more than skim the game, and I still know this guy's scum.

Am I?

[DavidParker]

Well, I find him scummy but he's buddying me pretty hard so I'm okay not voting him for now.

David, this is horribly scummy. Do you really mean this?

You find him scummy but you don't want to vote him because he's buddying to you?

It was sarcasm sorry.

[Furcolow]

zzzzzzzz

[RedCoyote]

Oh, okay. I was worried for a second, but now I get it.

Unvote

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vote: ThAdmiral

I know what I like and what I don't like. I do not like this guy's posts at all. They're incredibly vague and reeking of inside information.

[ThAdmiral]

Yeah, my inside information is that I know I'm town.

[ThAdmiral]

Furthermore does anyone else see the irony that redcoyote's reason for voting me is rather vague...

[DavidParker]

At this point I think you're both probably town.

[Stephoscope]

Unvote
Vote: bvoigt

Reading him in iso, I find it pretty likely that he is scum. I don't like all the little suggestions that he is town.

[LimMePls]

PI wagon is still awesome. ThAd isn't bad either.

[PoisonIvy]

Kay guise so ive work at 9 so should be fine. Expect no other contribution til im finished at 8am plus.

Anywho!

I dont necessarily think there is anything scummy about Random Question Stages. BUT.
@Furcolow. How comes you have started asking questions in the RVS? This is not something ive known you to do previous to this game.

@DavidParker. Question. If i was was HYPOTHETICALLY scum. I would have stuck Russians in there for what? To give the town more information? I can seriously see the scum motivation so early in the day ((sarcasm))

Xscorpion is give me the heepie jeebies by twisting everything i say. By claiming i "want" to be investigated. When what i said was that i had no qualms about being investigated if someone with the ability felt uneasy about my presence. It is not a INVESTIGATAE ME NOW. But the individuals choice. The statement was said because people were getting on my back and will result in a mislynch if i am lynch. Im not saying its the end of the world but its one townie less that the mafia has to worry about. Artem states a summary against furcolow but votes me and just looks like he's trying to have his cake and eat it by saying im WIFOMing a potential influencial role like a cop, would a vig not count no? Secondly Xscorpion says that my giving my view of the alternative cold war game i have played is scummy. Sorry that i will be basing some of the potential roles off another game but how so is humouring potential scenario's scummy in itself?
Like i said. Bad heepie jeebies.

My "blatant lack of knowledge" as you call it, is called ignorant bliss and on top of that the person/persons with the clearest mind of the game can be considered anyone but town. If there is an SK they will know what they are up against and the most likely set up, judge on how many mafia there may be, whereas the mafia hve an informed minority which is strong in numbers.

jmj. My intention was not to start yapping about the game set up, but somehow there is a "case" built on me from a fabricated "slip" which instead was only opinion.

I like Sathoris. But like llama i cant tell if its because he's sane or because i agree with the..... not understanding where furcolow's RSQ came from.

Gonnano. Im interested when there is something to disect. When ones actions genuinely ARE scummy. I dont see how dismantling potential set ups when there have been no kills is particularily a good use of time. I will become more interested in the case maybe lter but as of right now meh......

Actually llama's disection in post 44 is quite good. I particularily like his viewpoint based on question 3.

EGL. WHAT!? Did you even READ what i wrote? I said there was a high chance of RUSSIANS/SOVIETS. So your point that i "specified" only Soviets is a FARCE.

Lowell's Ghost vote is riddiculous.

I like JulienVonWolfe.

Furcolow. I generally post walls as scum and town. Regardless of alignment. You'd want to judge me on something more substantial although, that said hi, im town. Secondly. I had more time then than i do now and on top of this! I have some fucking anti malware virus that keeps flashing up on my laptop and interupting my trains of thoguht so ill be leaving this up to PC world Tomorrow. >(

Beasts of the sea just drop kicks into my wagon without any analysis of ANY of the other players. He does address EGL and Llama but does not question POINT BLANK, if my wagon is scum motivated and builds on other players thoughts to vote me without giving any real insight of his own.

OMG. Lookk at all the people off my wagon by106. Ill have a glance back at the wagon again because i really cant spend any more time on this than i have to with this virus.

Furcolow's...... near self suicide vote on me is quite baffling. He seems calmer than he was in the other game we played. However i cant tear away from the fact this could be ATE. Although, i feel, personally that from his "what scum would be coaching me" craic that he could be town. With scum having the ability to talk 24hours in, i really doubt he'd...... i doubt...... i truly wonder if he would be so blasée. But im going to for the moment think not......

Lowell's attack on Gonanno is rubbing me up the wrong way, im happy with a vote on him.
Sounds like he's blacklisting someone for feeling uneasy about a rushed wagon.

Furcolow is saying he is an aggressive player, which by ll accounts ive only seen him as but not so much this time round especially following his speech of why he might not vote me except his survival.

Artem is confusing me by his post139. But ends with a netral stance on him again. Will have to reread again when my lappioe is better.

ThAdmiral however has been giving me bad vibes throughout. Dont actually know why but what he's saying sounds like scum to me. Equally lowell still seems like scum but lowell's an easy enough lynch ThAdmiral scares me. But you know who strikes me more as scum

Unvote, vote Xscorpion

This is where my suspicion lies. Am good with a beasts of the sea lynch either.

Towns.
Ghostwriter
Llamafluff

Scum.
Xscorpion.
Beasts of the sea.
ThAdmiral.

[LimMePls]

ThAdmiral however has been giving me bad vibes throughout. Dont actually know why

Maybe because of recent statements from other players expressing negative opinions of you, you figure he's an easy counterwagon to yours? Seriously people, look at this quote. This is just AWFUL.

[gonnano]

It is if you are town.

Actually, I believe the pro-town move in this situation would be for Furcolow to try to find scum, not to just push any wagon that isn't his. Especially since we've still got weeks until the deadline.

@bvoigt: You have a point that scum would most likely know about the daytalk, but then again scum would also be less likely to bring the subject up. I still think it's all a wash in terms of being a tell.

I don't particularly object to a ThAdmiral wagon right now, but I'd like to see what exactly people are finding so scummy about him before I buy in. What vague posts or hints at inside information has he made?

[Sathoris]

I fail to see the importance of the daytalk 'slip-up'. Everyone could read that any group with the ability to talk could do so for 24 hours. Not just mafia but a mason group aswell, if there is any. It's hardly vote worthy material.

[ThAdmiral]

It is if you are town.

Actually, I believe the pro-town move in this situation would be for Furcolow to try to find scum, not to just push any wagon that isn't his. Especially since we've still got weeks until the deadline.

But I'm just saying him voting the other leading wagon is not necessarily anti-town if he is indeed town. Especially since often when there is competing wagons one is town and one is scum.

ThAdmiral however has been giving me bad vibes throughout. Dont actually know why

Maybe because of recent statements from other players expressing negative opinions of you, you figure he's an easy counterwagon to yours? Seriously people, look at this quote. This is just AWFUL.

Yeah this is classic "keep counterwagon options open" scum-talk. (not what you said, what poisonivy said)

[bvoigt]

people are jumping on this wagon, only thinking "she must be mafia because she thinks all mafia are Soviets, blah blah blah, and only mafia would do this, blah blah blah, let's leave only two methods of thinking". Right. Because you all had the wincon memorized before someone reposted it for you, right? And someone getting distracted by the giant America/Soviet flag at the top of the page as well as the possible mafia wincon couldn't possibly think that maybe we were up against Soviets, that just doesn't happen, does it? And it's not like they COULD still apply that possibly mafia wincon to our own wincon and say that the Soviets are the threat to peace, could they?

If someone (a townie) read the possible mafia wincon (Rule #4), then yes, they'd notice their own wincon (Rule #3) and the fact that each player has an alignment, a nationality, and a role (Rule #2). This, of course, implies that alignment and nationality are separate. I think it's more likely that scum saw their own wincon and simply skimmed the rules post.

Vote: TheAdmiral

I haven't done much more than skim the game, and I still know this guy's scum. Everyone else needs to step their games up >.>

Why?

[XScorpion]

Clearly there is a language barrier here, which is going to prove to be quite annoying.

Sorry that i will be basing some of the potential roles off another game but how so is humouring potential scenario's scummy in itself?

Because there is no reason whatsoever to suggest why the soviets are the mafia and the americans aren't. However you claimed that

i would think there is a possibility of there being a Soviet/Russian mafia.

Either this statement is completely meaningless fluff, or you are implying that you think the mafia is more likely to be soviet than American. Which is it?

Now I see a major language barrier here, I don't really understand what you're trying to say. You don't have any less knowledge than I do, yet you claim to be 'blissfully ignorant.' I can't comment much more on the rest of this because I'm having a hard time deciphering what you're trying to say. Could you elaborate on what you mean by

The person/persons with the clearest mind of the game can be considered anyone but town

im WIFOMing a potential influencial role like a cop, would a vig not count no?

and the relevance of

If there is an SK they will know what they are up against and the most likely set up, judge on how many mafia there may be, whereas the mafia hve an informed minority which is strong in numbers.

I said there was a high chance of RUSSIANS/SOVIETS.

Russian/Soviet what? Mafia? Why?

Lowell's attack on Gonanno is rubbing me up the wrong way, im happy with a vote on him.

Explain why. From my perspective, it seems like the only reason you don't like Lowell is because he is voting for someone who unvoted you.

Furcolow's...... near self suicide vote on me is quite baffling. He seems calmer than he was in the other game we played. However i cant tear away from the fact this could be ATE. Although, i feel, personally that from his "what scum would be coaching me" craic that he could be town. With scum having the ability to talk 24hours in, i really doubt he'd...... i doubt...... i truly wonder if he would be so blasée. But im going to for the moment think not......

This sounds incredibly wishy-washy, especially since I notice you said "he could be town" rather than "I think he is town."

But you know who strikes me more as scum Unvote, vote Xscorpion

Explain why, because I'm having a hard time believing that your vote is anything but blatant OMGUS.

[Furcolow]

I like early-game reaction-tests as town, PoisonIvy

[gonnano]

Gonnano. Im interested when there is something to disect. When ones actions genuinely ARE scummy. I dont see how dismantling potential set ups when there have been no kills is particularily a good use of time. I will become more interested in the case maybe lter but as of right now meh......

I'm not really sure what this means... are you interested in wagoning me? the comments/accusations that I've made? or just interested in dissection in general?
Whose actions are genuinely scummy? Who has been dismantling set ups? What do you mean by dismantling?

I'd appreciate some elaboration, because I'm not quite getting this.

[ThAdmiral]

Vote: TheAdmiral

I haven't done much more than skim the game, and I still know this guy's scum. Everyone else needs to step their games up >.>

Why?

It's cooler if you don't say.