Mafiascum.net

to be perfectly honest I can't get a good read on mb because most of his posts are just spam to me... I mean he has a few decent ones but they arent to be radically scummy or townish so I can't quite say, most of his posts are confusing so you can say scummy but so are some of mine sometimes so does that automatically make me scum (ha i just dont know it right?!) anyway thats my reasoning on MB not enough to really conclude its mostly spam

as for Tragedy, he seems to just be prodding people to get a response I don't see any real threat from him appears to be a Doc trying to figure out who to protect but thats my opinion. I got a town read on him idk why maybe cus i played marathons with him XD

Tragedy wrote:@LVB: 'OMGUS' and the 'NEWB CARD' won't help you at all at this state.
It's still pretty stupid to make a list of role claims on whose town or not.
You shouldn't go to far with it anyways.
Claiming as 'Vanilla' won't get you anywhere else too.
Uhhh.

I don't like this post. The 'NEWB CARD' and list of role claims came a couple of pages ago, and you had already posted after the occurences without really batting an eyelid too much. The vanilla claim and OMGUS also came before your previous post, and this post only seems to be a feigned attempt at having an opinion on Lelouch following mb's nudge.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tragedy

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:his

[espeo's]

idea of a massive name claim RETARDED because now if the Mafia knows all the town Names then they know who NOT to claim for a name

lolwut?

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:MOI CHA! Wise Ol Man will show up and tell us everything unfortunately his house has been blown up and he is in space or dead you must pay a witch 3000 Rio to speak to him. Anyone else notice Ebisimaru? I can't find Goemon! So lets make a player list and think what setup we have first guys.

<snip'd - huge name speculation>

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Don't be moronic

Glass houses. Stones.


@ Lelouch: If you had to name, say, two people other than Tragedy that you had a (confident?) town read on, who would they be?


~ Hopp

I can't be the only one who saw it.



May have to re-evaluate my mb-read. I don't think so many scum would jump on the easy wagon at once.

But dana, seriously? Coming into thread, picking some random ass fact, that's neither inherently scummy nor done by Lelouch exclusively and you jump on the easy VI wagon without anything else to add? Ping.

Keeping an eye on lurker presence, but nothing of note so far.

Dekes wrote:I can't be the only one who saw it.

Unvote; Vote: eusorio

May have to re-evaluate my mb-read. I don't think so many scum would jump on the easy wagon at once.

But dana, seriously? Coming into thread, picking some random ass fact, that's neither inherently scummy nor done by Lelouch exclusively and you jump on the easy VI wagon without anything else to add? Ping.

Keeping an eye on lurker presence, but nothing of note so far.

You're not doing anything to improve my read on you, y'know.

esurio, iso 10 wrote:Dekes didn't even give a reason (and can't even claim to be doing anything other than sheeping on PatB's case, since he thinks Lelouch is town and I'm "a good vote").

Are you going to respond to why you placed a shitty vote on mb53, or are you just going to continue placing shitty votes on people for no reason?

Lelouch is still scum~

In my honest opinion Dekes and Pinky and the Brain appear to be Town but I don't want to Hit the hammer on the head just yet.

And I'm being targeted, riiiight.

@Lewarcher:

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:In my honest opinion Dekes and Pinky and the Brain appear to be Town but I don't want to Hit the hammer on the head just yet.

Ha funny how the people who appear town are the ones on your side.

You also are vote-hopping when anyone accuses you.

Lucresia wrote: If you act dumb, you can become a liability to the town later and if you are just mafia on the defensive then we need to lynch you. See how no part in this behavior is helping you?

Which is why calling someone a newb in order to defend them or see them as town is a BAD idea. More later

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Thanks Tragedy for posting filler again. If I wanted to teach someone, I'd go play the IC. New players shouldn't start with large theme games. I am voting him for being scummy. I have explained what I think of people who play the noob card and manage never to get lynched, and I stick to my position. However, I do change my vote if my target starts looking townier or if some good case emerges.

Lelouch is *not* looking townier, but I did find something worth discussing:

eusorio wrote: Cute.

Did your buddies tell you to say that

or did you come up with that all on your own?

Eusorio, what the hell does the part in bold mean? Are you implying mafia has daytalk? Please explain why, how and how wouold you know such a thing.

Am I really the only one who actually rulesets anymore? Jesus.

Rule 17, people.

PS: Lewarcher, I'm curious as to why you didn't say anything about that the first few times you posted after I said the thing about Lelouch's buddies.

well, I didn't notice it until I saw Dekes writing this:

I can't be the only one who saw it.

Unvote; Vote: eusorio

I wondered what it was he claimed to have "seen" and I re-read your ISO. If he wasn't referring to this apparent slip of yours, I have no idea why he is voting you.

However, crappy case is crappy: I confess I didn't read the whole ruleset.

My vote goes back where it was:

Ah. Hmm. Well, I guess I know what his shitty vote on me is for now. XD

Coincidentally, I didn't read the whole ruleset right away either... I read it about the time I caught Lelouch's gaffe that I keep referring to and still haven't revealed. (I shall do so in a bit, since evidently me referring to it constantly hasn't made any nervous scum bus him terribly like I was hoping, except for maybe dana.)

Dekes is listed as voting three different people, as is Pinky and the Brain. I'm pretty sure danakillsu is currently voting Lelouch. You should probably start an entirely new vote count from scratch -- that one looks pretty frakked up.

@Lew: So just because your case is pretty crappy of esuriospiritus, that's why you went back to lynching Lelouch?


So you're not going to make a decent case on esuriospiritus and quit on a case you call 'crappy'?

Ugh, my draft for this post is mysteriously gone. ;_;

Anyway,

In addition to everything I and others have pointed out about Lelouch's play that is scummy, he's also committed a pretty big gaffe, and I'm honestly surprised I'm the only one who caught it.

Take a look at this thread, in which Lelouch mentions 'a better way of doing quicktopics'. Note the time the thread was posted -- it was in between when JMJ said he was sending out roles and the time he said the game was starting. As far as I can tell from reading his "search all user's posts" thing he started no other games around this time. I assume most of you are smart enough to put two-and-two together from this point.

When I discovered this was, as I mentioned, when I read the rules in full, to see if there was any rule against using this as part of my case against him. As long as I don't talk about ongoing games (I'll let you research for yourself whether it's plausible or not that he was referring to any other ongoing games here, but hint: it's not) there's nothing in the rules against making a case based on something outside of the game.

If this happened coming from a smarter poster, I'd probably give that person the benefit of the doubt. But I totally wouldn't put it past Lelouch to get a scum PM, realize we use QT at this site, and immediately wander over to "site ideas" to tell everyone about how 'other site x' does talking-to-your-buddies better than we do without thinking about the ramifications of making his post when he made it.

Feel free to lynch/bus/distance from obvious scum now.

VOTE: Lelouch
Easily the most convincing/only convincing argument for him to be scum. God damn, that's fucking brilliant, Esurio.

GhostWriter wrote:

Unvote

VOTE: Lelouch
Easily the most convincing/only convincing argument for him to be scum. God damn, that's fucking brilliant, Esurio.

I normally don't join bandwagons so readily, but when I do, it's for good reasons.
VOTE: Lelouch VI Britannia

IN OTHER NEWS:
I'm thinking PatB is scummy. Tragedy case is weak considering how short Tragedy's first post after Lelouch's vanilla claim was, and it only seemed like they jumped there after mb called them on their bad case. Further it seems like they're giving the most evidence for Lelouch yet avoiding the wagon.

Espeonage is looking bad. The DBE vote was crap, especially considering it was on a wagon, and his LVB read makes no sense.

Dekes wrote:I can't be the only one who saw it.

Unvote; Vote: eusorio

Is this still valid?

It has occurred to me that I should probably copy the original post from the thread I linked in post 166, just in case it gets before everyone's had a chance to look at it.

Lelouch wrote:Instead of having to make a slightly awkward PM system steal the one the Ikariam Boards use because they are simpler to use and better in EVERY aspect basically makes Quick Topic SHIT compared to it and makes sharing a Conversation between more than one person easier aka include Joint PMs so like you can PM 1 2 3 and 4 and if any of them respond they all see it and so on so we can all talk and all see responses.

I'm going to try to re-read the thread and post more thoughts tomorrow if I don't get swamped with busyness. Gnite.

Great second time retyping because my cousin is a fucking JewDick turning off the router like an asshole, I was saying that the reason this is retarded as hell for a vote is because I am obviously playing more than one game here Im in 4 derp, besides that I participated in marathon weekend so I know what QT is we used it there a few times. I also use QT on my other site some times but it really sucks in General especially because as mod I cannot enforce what happens there happening between those two times is just ironic considering I didn't get my PM from the mod until like 10 minutes before the game started. Also in addition anyone jumping on this retarded wagon for that reason should also be looked at for jumping on the easy vote to get Town Cred (even though you'd lose it when I die and show up Townie)

Oh hey would you look at this:

jmj3000 wrote:All the Role PM's are out. Here is the game thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17132

which makes this:

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:I didn't get my PM from the mod until like 10 minutes before the game started.

a lie.
You posted on 3/31/11 at 12:41 pm, and I would say it's inevitable you checked your PMs by that time if you had one. But it would make sense if you got it earlier as I got mine pretty significantly before 3:44 am and the sign up thread gives the impression that PMs were going out from the mod starting from days before then anyways.
Marathon ended well before that topic rolled around.

Note all times CDT

p.s. insults aren't cool.

ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:Unless it's an RVS vote, you practically always need a reason for your vote. Really, even in RVS you should have a bullshit one.

That might be true, but does it need to be explained? I think some votes do more work when you don't say why.

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:OH I REMEMBER A BIT MORE NOW! I was saying that I am fucking with the Mafia Mentally and hope to make them Panic haha! BY acting scummy they shouldn't kill me but because I look scummy I may get lynched THUS the reason I wont be killed BUT the SMART Mafia would kill me and say they framed him, anyway point is I am fucking with all of you to gauge whats up. >:)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lelouch

Yeah, no. I'm not buying this. Especially paired with the next part.

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Thats why Im vanilla buddy so back off thats also why I dont want the Doc protecting me and the Cop shouldn't waste an investigation plus I will die one of these nights because Scum like you can't take the fact my wits are higher than YOURS!!! that was all at esurio

This lol claim.

I'd like to see this last a while, don't think it's quite time to hang him yet but I'm fine having my vote on the pile.

Some things I'm making note of though.
1. Why did the DBE wagon grow that fast? It's a little unnerving.
2. Dekes is pretty likely town.
3. My attempt to get a feel for pianist failed. I like the thought process on Lelouch's time quote however.

More when it isn't 2:30 in the morning. Probably Monday.

I still think lelouch is town VI, rather than scum VI. There hasn't been much scum motivation through is stupidity, and it appears he is to get reads on people.