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Why do I feel like Chaos just tried to go against the obvtownie to gain town cred so he could get me mislynched instead?

Rach, wanna lynch Chaos?
VOTE: ChaosOmega

I want to hear from him first though. Also want to read through the ISOs a bit before making a final decision.

Let me know what you get from ISO's.

Here, have a double ISO with my super scum-connecting ISO powahs.
I may be reading a bit too far into these first two btw.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:

vote: Chimera

Possible distancing for the early game. However, due to RVS I'm not putting too much weight into this.

↑ Chimera wrote:VOTE: ChaosOmega

Cause OMGUS in RVS is fun.

Same for this.

↑ Chimera wrote:Wish chaos was back...wrong player to go on V/LA here....

Here he kinda tries to throw Chaos under the bus. The way he explained it meant he thought Chaos was town, but I still think there may have been a hidden motive here.

↑ Chimera wrote:Semi content? All there is is you and Om discussing nothing at all and then a bit of a back and forth between you and rach regarding your read on chaos. So yes, chaos is the wrongest of the wrong players to go atm and without him I have nothing to comment on that hasn't already been said.

Hey look, another post about Chaos. I think maybe the constant mention of him could possibly be him trying to distance from Chaos. Though I guess this may have just been because he was asked to explain what he meant.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:I would say Chimera and Kcdaspot for scumteam, but that's mainly gut. Chimera's 52 reads like buddying with Om of the Nom and subtle not-pushed attack/distancing with Kcdaspot.

Here is what I think is a bussing attack directed at Chimera. It sounds weak, which to me constitues a connection when someone between them flips scum.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:You keep bringing up my vote in this game as anti-town because it is 5p. Why is that so? He has one vote, with 3 to lynch. Both scum would have to jump on to quicklynch assuming Chimera is town, outing them both. I'm not seeing a negative there.

This sounds like a weak attack at Chimera too. Maybe he was trying to use the situation to make a play on the words to make him appear town ("Both the scum" is used in a way that would not include him).

↑ Chimera wrote:...okay.

↑ Kcdaspot wrote:Bleh. Fine.

So now having conceded your point what's your read on chaos?

Why is Chimera so concerned with what people think of Chaos?

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:Chimera: Who is your partner? Follow-up, are you the goon or the godfather?

Again, another attack at Chimera. I'm really starting to think this is distancing now.

↑ Chimera wrote:Chaos is pretty much null to me.

So wait, Chaos is null to you, despite being almost your only topic of conversation in all your posts? It feels like you're trying not to give too strong a read on him in case Chaos flips scum.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:And my vote on Chimera isn't random anymore, RachMarie. I agree with Om of the Nom about not liking the feel of his posts. Especially that last one. It's just so wishy-washy. Kcdaspot isn't really suspected as being scum by him, but RachMarie and Om are more town, and I'm null. He's just trying to be non-offensive and isn't giving any real reads or insight.

Yet another attack. This one also sounds fake, plus he parroted me without adding anything new to my original attack. It sounds like he's just trying to look like he's making content when he really isn't.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:And I'd shoot Chimera. Wanna distance some more today.

In hindsight, this is hilarious.

↑ Chimera wrote:Omega...basically I generally play pretty cautiously. Someone else? Possibly. Would have all depended on my lynch wagon because before that question I had no clear scumreads. I had scumspects who I would have been more likely to shoot (i.e. kcdas) but likely to vary according to lynch.

Why all the waffles just from answering Chaos' question? Are you trying not to give too much away, or to sound like you don't already know the answer?

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:What's the matter Kcdaspot, don't wanna hammer your partner?

Hey look, an indirect attack. Indirect bussing is fun.

Well, guess my gut instinct was wrong. Rach would have hammered me if she was scum.



I'll read through and try to put together a case, but I thought he was town up to this point, so this might be difficult.

Or um, maybe you're scum instead.

This isn't rocket science here. Though I guess you have to feign towniness :P

Yeah, let me consider that possibility...*reads Role PM*

Nope, I'm town. You guys have to consider that, I don't.

Anyways...

Om of the Nom wrote:Yeah, I'm not going to let someone pussy out on this.
VOTE: Chimera
I'm confident he will flip scum.

Yeah, if he was your partner, you would be confident.

Om of the Nom wrote:Why don't you like me now?

Seems very concerned about Kcdaspot's opinion of him, gets him lynched the next day. Granted, that wasn't hard because everyone else wanted him lynched as well.

During the big stupid fluff discussion on page 2, I thought there was one scum taking part of Kcdaspot and Om of the Nom. Mathematically, there's a 60% of one of them being scum. But also, it provides no real content while showing participation (i.e., not seeming like a lurker to others), at a time where the conversation isn't entirely out of place. I checked to see who started the conversation, and it was Om of the Nom. Kcdaspot made a game post and also said tits. Om of the Nom just commented on the other part, starting the worthless conversation.

That's all I got. I know my alignment, and I know if RachMarie was scum, she could have won already. Everything's up to you, Rachmarie, no pressure!

So why does any of that make me scummy?

Who said I was very concerned with kcda's opinion of me? I was just asking him why. I always like to know why people think I'm scum, no matter which alignment. Plus, what does me getting him lynched the next day mean anyway? You were on the wagon before me, same for Chimera's wagon.

I like all the adjectives you use to describe the fluff conversation I had with kcda on Page 2. Too much adjectives = discrediting, to me. The conversation didn't even last long, so it didn't really make a difference to the game. Explain exactly why it was bad. I don't need to start a fluff conversation just to show my activity. Why would I need to do that? I have a town meta with fluff in it too. Rach can confirm this is true.

You had contributed basically nothing that wasn't realted to Chimera on D1. That read to me like super huge distancing and I did not like it one bit. Die scum die.

You know what, why don't you post your case on Rach too? Even if you now think she's town, maybe you could post it anyway?

Not posting a case on RachMarie. If she was scum, she would have won already. Why do you care, anyway? You're not switching your vote off of me.

Like I said, I thought you were town up to this point. You played a good game. At this point, it's just process of elimination for me.

Post the case anyway. It will show us what you were thinking, and might make Rach make a better decision.

She might make a better decision because of why I thought she was scum? Well that's stupid.

I don't have anything else to say to you. If RachMarie wants to ask me anything, feel free.

No it's not. It shows her your thinking process.

I would like to hear the case Chaos it may help me with making this decision.

Like I said, it was just a gut feeling. D1, you struck me as passive, asking a lot of questions, but not doing a lot of scumhunting. You hopped onto the Chimera bandwagon with no reasoning of your own, just agreeing with Om of the Nom. After he was lynched, you made a "yay we got him" post, and those always strike me as scummy, like you're just trying to show everyone you're happy scum was lynched, just trying to fit in.

But then the whole not hammering thing happened so you're town, or being super annoying scum.

Rach, it's all up to you now.

Vote Chaos for a town win.
Vote me for a scum win.

You decide.

Lol.

I am usually passive on D 1. It often takes me a while to peg people.


uggh decisions decisions....


I hope I pick right here....


Based on reading the ISOs of Om, Chaos, and Chimera..... I noticed that BOTH Chimera and Chaos focused a lot on each other and gave each other nullish reads. Om if you are the GF you have done a brilliant job here.


VOTE: Chaos

THANK YOU SO MUCH RACH YOU ARE THE BEST YAY SCUM WIN AHAHAHAHA.

THIS IS MY FIRST SCUM WIN AND RACH YOU SHOULD FEEL HONOURED FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN :D :D :D :D :D :D

Im sorry Chaos

You shouldn't be sorry.
You should be happy :D

You actually played really well. Had I been town, I would still have read you as the most obvtownie out of everyone.