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How does this make me look stupid?

↑ Approximately Normal Guy wrote:Wow. Defensive, indeed.

PM kinda went ballistic right after I voted her, slinging f bombs left and right. And she said herself that she was playing defensive. Maybe i'm spoiled because the mod in my first game specifically asked people not to curse, but it just seemed like an excessive amount of rage considering the number of votes she had on her.

VOTE: Venmar

Venmar voted jon with no explanation, called it serious, then unvoted when this was addressed. Fluffy posting, I haven't seen an actual thought from him yet.

A few thoughts, none of my reads are very firm ATM.


AJ 5 posts on different issues with 2 fluff, 1 explanation of vote on me, comment to mollie about vote calling it reaction test, misunderstanding on ANG earlier. post null

ANP Comes off new to Mafia, or at least Mafiascum. Makes a few jabs at mollie. Mostly fluff posts commenting on hydras, formating, and reads. nullish to scum

Axxle Hydra comment, dustup with mollie and RVS. 3 posts nullish

BBmolla 6 posts all short and sweet. doesn't explain reads. no opinion yet

CooLDoG Digs deep fast, logical, Hope he's Town

Cryo A hydra, LOTS of relevant content, agree with his reads. I pray he Town.

Fuzzy Kinda defends me, and comments on mollie's revulsion of RVS, says CooLDog's argument is weak concerning Majiffy's sudden unvote. Asks mollie to scumhunt. Too early to tell, maybe scum?

Konowa One useless comment.

Maestro Vote on me, useless comment.

Majiffy Provocative playstyle, good logical posts. leaning Town

PM I get the idea she plays A LOT, a lotta gut but I'm leaning Town

Venmar Two votes, a few small comments, then complains about people who ask for reads. Doesn't give any reads. Leaning scum

I'll post on particular issues later.

ANP = ANG sorry

Aj, thoughts on Scum thusfar?

↑ CryoChemist wrote:In our professional opinion, jon seems like a VI. His divergent opinions of his proposed QuickLynch make us scratch our nether regions, though.

In post 79, jon_h61 wrote:reasonless quicklynches waste days we may need later in the game.


In post 84, jon_h61 wrote:I don't even mind being quicklynched as it might be useful to Town later in the game.
This feels to be at odds... can't decide if further VI or cog dis...

Reasonless quiclynches are useless, unless they can be used to glean info. It looked like majiffy may have talked enough people into a quicklynch. I felt there may have been some useful info there. I still don't see the contradiction.

Venmar's placement, his OMGUS comment and his unvote are things I'll remember from the wagon.

What the hell am I doin heeeeere, I don't beloooong hereeeeee, I don't belooooong hereeeee.

How are quicklynches going to give any information, other than reducing the size of the pot to pick scum from? Quicklynches provide a .

↑ fuzzybutternut wrote:How are quicklynches going to give any information, other than reducing the size of the pot to pick scum from? Quicklynches provide a

lack of information

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he is talking about the interacting between mijffy and the other people on the wagon... I think.

@ majiffy You may be right, but you can't learn without making a few mistakes.

@ fuzzy If scum is likely to be on a quicklynch, wouldn't that mean you should watch those on the wagon closer?

Yeah, Jon is VI... Too many null reads. Also, his understanding of how the RVS was going to play out shows he hasn't played here often, or at least recently. QL don't happen, especially with a town of this kind of experience (in it's upper tiers).



Fuzzy, I want to hear more out of ANG, but I'm thinking he's going to be in my scum pile. I have five town reads, but I don't feel like listing them since I believe town reads get killed.

Majiffy, you're obviously here because of Mollie. Now, enjoy the hilarity of discussing a QL on page 6/7.

IMO, scum would be less likely to jump on a QL wagon, as they stand a lower chance of revealing themselves, and they get 2 kills. It's a win win situation for them.
I see what you mean though.
Fair enough AJ.

What makes you think ANG is scum?

↑ jon_h61 wrote:complains about people who ask for reads.

Doesn't give any reads.

- That wouldn't make sense now would it from the way you put it.



Yeah, this is where my vote belongs, I don't think he's actually town. His "scumhunting" of Majiffy seems pretty fake.

↑ Aj The Epic wrote:Majiffy, you're obviously here because of Mollie.

And Uber Goober!

I'm getting a
VOTE: Jon_h61
kind of feeling.

I'm getting a " shoulda stayed in Rome" feeling, but hopefully I'll learn a lot playing and reading the game.

Being a VI doesn't make me guilty though, so I'd be interested in your feelings fuzz. It's the not expressing reasons part of comments I don't especially care for. My reasons may be derp, and I'm willing to take heat for that. It's easier to avoid suspicion later with a feeling rather than reasons.

It's not the VI thing. It's mostly gut. I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. i'm attempting to gain reads right now though.
maybe a snack or a nap would help. I'm not sure if I'm hungry or tired, but it's not helping me progress in game.

regardless. I got the impression that you were scum at the start of the game, and so far I've been pretty lucky with that. I don't like voting for people for that reason alone, but I'll deal.

↑ fuzzybutternut wrote:IMO, scum would be less likely to jump on a QL wagon, as they stand a lower chance of revealing themselves, and they get 2 kills. It's a win win situation for them.
I see what you mean though.
Fair enough AJ.

What makes you think ANG is scum?

Considering how many people are in the d-1 lynch wagon it does not narrow the pool that much. If you can ram a quick one through it is always best. especially if you can lurk onto the wagon.

wait, what is this deal with 2 kills?

It could happen either way. This is the largest game I've played in, so I guess it would be more likely.
Hmm. Who on the wagon is scum then?

I was referring to a lynch and NK, assuming no PR's intervened.
In the situation I described, scum get two kills with no effort at all.

right right, but if the wagon was well reasoned then the chance of one of them getting lynched is higher than if they rammed through a lynch together. This is irrelevant to finding scum though. Theory arguments have little baring in the actual game.

I think that majjify is scummy for pushing so hard on the wagon, then getting caught out on it and backing off. Of the remaining players on the wagon I think Aj might be a pretty good choice because he just slides on the wagon and then slides off with no explanation of fanfare really.

but my strongest read is majiffy.