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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:59 pm

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Dranko wrote: cause serial killers don't exsist anymore... ?
Erm, huh? What was this in response to?

Aureal wrote:Yosarian, I just went back and re-read the beginning of the thread, and I don't agree with the sentiment that Nanook wanted to lynch Phoebus. His vote on Phoebus was the first, and was not exactly backed up by reason. "Maybe this will strike him as really scummy." It could just as easily have been mafia random-voting each other to make each other look innocent. Their little playful banter: "If I die tonight, Nanook killed me" actually kind of makes me lean toward that.
(nods) Yeah, I know. That was why I added in the phrase "unless someone is trying to mess with my head". I had no idea at the time if he actually wanted to get him lynched or if he was playing WIFOM games with my head; at that moment, though, I just didn't really want to join a bandwagon when I KNEW there was a scum on the wagon.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:56 pm

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Looking for a replacement for Nanook
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:31 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:
Dranko wrote: cause serial killers don't exsist anymore... ?
Erm, huh? What was this in response to?
People were saying how if we mislynch with 8 people, then we lose. Although that is not true, because of the fact that Vigilantes, and Serial Killers exist. Serial Killers are not uncommon roles, and if neither are vigs. I really wouldn't be scared that we might be at a lynch or lose situation with 8 people. just me?
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:38 am

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With only one kill last night I think we all figured no SK. Though there is a vig other then me most likely its better just to think Lynch or lose incase something goes wrong.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:24 pm

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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:54 pm

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Hmm... Drakno may have a point. The burning of darq's house could have been an attempt to kill him. Darq, were you told whether the house burnage RB'ed you, or whether it was something else?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:26 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum replaces NanookTheWolf
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:25 am

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Ok, well Yosarian2 has claimed his role, so I will too. I am gemini twin II. We are indeed siblings, but in my PM it said that he was mafia and I was innocent! So I'm not entirely sure what's going on here.

But we should be discussing who to lynch today anyway, as I will undoubtably be killed by armlx tonight.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:21 am

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as I will undoubtably be killed by armlx tonight.
Why is that inevitable? Can you not make a case against your sibling then?
Unless both are mafia and this is a very roundabout ruse. This seems unlikely if they are indeed traditional siblings because we'd lynch one at some point of time.

Cogito Ergo Sum makes no mention of a power. Yosarian claims a power which seems off to me. Half the town invited? Killers can't function but others might?

Direct talk between players (Yos and armlx) about tonight's plans. I don't like it at all. It's a jeep tell.

Here's something. We've got at least two scum out of these three here.

I am Scorpio. I am a vigilante who has connections.
I get to know if and what actions I'm targetted with, in addition to my vig abilties.

armlx has claimed Leo - jack of all trades. He claimed he targetted me last night with an investigation and got me innocent. I
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last night indeed but
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and they got me innocent. We don't need to know who Capricorn is right now but they can confirm this if scum try to spin this on me.

vote: armlx


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If you do, I still say LYNCH ALL LIARS

armlx lies.

Yosarian claims an obscure power and asks for the siblings to be allowed to live for a couple of days. This is the
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thing Pooky did in Flay's Werewolves mafia and he took his sibling through to the end, winning the game. He was scum.

Yosarian and armlx talk and decide on plans with a seemingly one-to-one conversation.

armlx's play yesterday was questionable, to say the least.

Q.E.D.

I will be killing Yosarian tonight, unless the arsonist is antagonistic towards the town. Somehow, the sun god thing - methinx armlx might be our arsonist. In any case, when darquiel's house was gutted, she could still perform her action that night. Don't care if I'm blocked the next night.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:03 am

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unvote; vore armlx
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:01 am

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Hmmm. Very interesting twists we've got here. It looks like Yosarian and Cogito are confirmed as Gemini twins, but I don't really believe Yosarian's description of them. I think Yosarian is acting very fishy here. Answer me this, Yos. If you considered yourself expendable, and have this 'social butterfly' ability, why didn't you use it last night to make sure it wasn't wasted?

On the armlx situation: he's not looking too good now, either. He was acting rather scummy yesterday and Phoebus's claim calls him into question again. I also note that it was Fuldu who was a proponent of lynching him anyway even after the claim, and Fuldu is now dead. But I still don't get why armlx would lie about his Zodiac sign. Why would he claim Leo if that isn't really who he is, knowing that the real Leo is out there reading and knowing he's a liar?

Oh, and Phoebus, how do you plan on determining whether the arsonist is antagonistic towards the town before tonight?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:03 am

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There seemed to be a consensus that the actions suggested were the right one and Yosarian2 had claimed before I did, so I didn't expect you to believe my claim anyway. Of course your post changes everything.

The armlx case seems pretty straightforward:
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:05 am

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Aureal, there's no reason he would lie about his sign, so the logical conclusion is that he didn't, capricorn is a cop that investigated phoebus and armlx is scum.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:09 am

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Oh, and Phoebus, how do you plan on determining whether the arsonist is antagonistic towards the town before tonight?
I don't really care. If they strike again, especially at my place or at a pro town place, we'll know. In any case, I won't be blocked tonight. I will be blocked night 4.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:24 am

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Phoebus wrote: Direct talk between players (Yos and armlx) about tonight's plans. I don't like it at all. It's a jeep tell.
Erm, it's often a good idea for the town to dicuss what an outed vig should do. Also, the entire PLAN was that today we would co-ordiante Armlx's night actions tonight so as to prove or disprove his role, and that was what I was trying to do. Like I said yesterday, role-blocks can be faked; vig-killing a scum probably can't.

Phoebus wrote: Here's something. We've got at least two scum out of these three here.

I am Scorpio. I am a vigilante who has connections.
I get to know if and what actions I'm targetted with, in addition to my vig abilties.

armlx has claimed Leo - jack of all trades. He claimed he targetted me last night with an investigation and got me innocent. I
was targetted
last night indeed but
not
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and they got me innocent. We don't need to know who Capricorn is right now but they can confirm this if scum try to spin this on me.

vote: armlx

Interesting. Ok, unless there's something really wierd going on here, this definatly sounds like a "either armlx is lyning scum or Phoebus is lying scum" and the way armlx "confirmed" you makes it pretty much impossible for Phoebus to be scum if Armlx is a good guy.
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Yosarian claims an obscure power and asks for the siblings to be allowed to live for a couple of days. This is the
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Erm, I NEVER asked for the siblings to be allowed to live a couple of days. In fact, i asked for my sibling to be killed tonight, which would lead to my death tommorow night.

And yeah, it's an "obscure power", as in, it's a role I've never seen used before. But then again, you are also claiming a pretty obscure power. I'm not sure what your point is here.



Phoebus wrote: Yosarian and armlx talk and decide on plans with a seemingly one-to-one conversation.
(shrug) Like I said, I was trying to test armlx. I really doubt scum would have either the ability or inclination to vig-kill one of their own, so if Armlx is scum (and we now think he is), he would have had to claim to be role-blocked or something tommorow.
Phoebus wrote: Q.E.D.
To misquote the Princess Bride, I do not think that word means what you seem to think it means.

Phoebus wrote: I will be killing Yosarian tonight, unless the arsonist is antagonistic towards the town. Somehow, the sun god thing - methinx armlx might be our arsonist. In any case, when darquiel's house was gutted, she could still perform her action that night. Don't care if I'm blocked the next night.
(shrug) Me being vig-killed tonight wouldn't be that bad for the town, considering. However, it would be better if you killed my scummy brother tonight instead, so that I am voting tommorow instead of him.

Seriously, think about it. Just suppose, for a moment, that he was telling the truth, and Cogito was the "good brother". If I was scum, why would I claim sibling? No matter which one of us dies, it's a 1 for 1 trade, which is always bad for the scum. What sense would it be for me to claim, exactally?
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:27 am

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Aureal wrote:Hmmm. Very interesting twists we've got here. It looks like Yosarian and Cogito are confirmed as Gemini twins, but I don't really believe Yosarian's description of them. I think Yosarian is acting very fishy here. Answer me this, Yos. If you considered yourself expendable, and have this 'social butterfly' ability, why didn't you use it last night to make sure it wasn't wasted?
There didn't really seem to be any risk of the ability being wasted. After all, it was not in the best interests of the scum to try to kill me last night; why would they waste a kill on me, when it would also cost them a scum-buddy? I figured I might as well wait another night, when I would have a better idea of who should be protected.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:34 am

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(shrug) Me being vig-killed tonight wouldn't be that bad for the town, considering. However, it would be better if you killed my scummy brother tonight instead, so that I am voting tommorow instead of him.

Seriously, think about it. Just suppose, for a moment, that he was telling the truth, and Cogito was the "good brother". If I was scum, why would I claim sibling? No matter which one of us dies, it's a 1 for 1 trade, which is always bad for the scum. What sense would it be for me to claim, exactally?
Well it has been shown that there are some quite powerful roles, so who knows what you're really going to do tonight. Maybe in the right circumstances you don't commit suicide. This game is strange enough for there to be a reason. Besides I would have claimed sooner or later.(it would be really funny if neither of us are scum but think the other is to balance the town)

Anyway why haven't we lynched armlx already?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:35 am

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There didn't really seem to be any risk of the ability being wasted. After all, it was not in the best interests of the scum to try to kill me last night; why would they waste a kill on me, when it would also cost them a scum-buddy? I figured I might as well wait another night, when I would have a better idea of who should be protected.
But now the scum do know that you're going to use your "ability" and have a much better chance of still killing.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:39 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Aureal, there's no reason he would lie about his sign, so the logical conclusion is that he didn't, capricorn is a cop that investigated phoebus and armlx is scum.
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I knew that... stupid cold must be messing with my head. >_<
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:52 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:But now the scum do know that you're going to use your "ability" and have a much better chance of still killing.
(shrug) Perhaps it makes it a little easier for you scum. I really didn't want to go into as much detail today as I did.


Honestly, I was rather surprised that anyone disbelieved my claim. I claimed with absolutly no pressure on me, and it's a claim that would make absoultly no sense for scum to make. I asked Phoebus how it would possibly make sense for a scum to invent my claim, as there is no possible way it could work out for me, and he never answered my question.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:59 am

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Well let's just lynch armlx today and we'll both die tonight, ok?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:12 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Well let's just lynch armlx today and we'll both die tonight, ok?
(shrug) If there was some way to assure we'd both die tonight, I wouldn't mind. However, if there is a very large mafia (and, like I said early in the game, there might be, because the mod told me, a pro-town person, the identity of a scum in my role PM), then I think it might be dangerous for the town numbers-wise if you're alive tommorow and I'm not.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:38 am

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That's also a possible reason why you claimed before I could, so you'd be alive tomorrow. That fits your strange "power". And why aren't you voting, may I ask?
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:44 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:That's also a possible reason why you claimed before I could, so you'd be alive tomorrow. That fits your strange "power". And why aren't you voting, may I ask?
Um, no, I'm voting for armix, and have been for half a page.

By the way, I notice you haven't done a full claim yet. Are you claiming to be a basic townie with a scum twin, or are you claming an ability?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:47 am

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I must have missed that, but anyway I'm just a townie with a mafia twin.
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