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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:22 pm

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1. We have already lost our 2 cops and the doc is out in the open.
2. An SK and 2 cult leaders have already died and there has been no indication of other anti-town roles.
3. There is a possible restriction on recruitment due to the nature of cult leaders and the strength of the scum.

That's why we're mass-claiming.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:48 pm

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Thank you for pointing out the errors for me... now, if Aureal can just claim and state why you are so scared to when we lose
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:08 pm

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I'll claim now.

I'm Patsy

I'm a vanilla townie except for the fact that if someone targets me during the night they receive a message saying that I'm only a patsy and that my only abilitiy is to send this message. They are then allowed to change their night action.

In other words, my role sucks.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:54 pm

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I have a bad feeling about this... but whatever.

I'm Sir Robin.

If I get enough votes to be lynched, I will not die (I'll bravely run away) but I won't be able to post the next day. This only works once.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:33 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:1. We have already lost our 2 cops and the doc is out in the open.
Because of course, there couldn't possibly be any other useful roles out there. :roll:
2. An SK and 2 cult leaders have already died and there has been no indication of other anti-town roles.
No indication of other anti-town roles?! The game is still going, isn't it?
3. There is a possible restriction on recruitment due to the nature of cult leaders and the strength of the scum.

That's why we're mass-claiming.
I note you didn't address my point about information at all. If all we have left are non-killing cultists, like you seem to think, then they have original roles that are safe to claim. *shrug* But since it seems everyone has decided to go along with this, I'll go ahead and claim too. I am Sir Bedevere, sword cop. I can check to see whether or not someone has a sword. I'm not sure how useful this is now, with the two knight cult leaders gone, but if they turn their recruits into knights as well, I bet they'd have swords.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:25 pm

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Kenji wrote:No scum killing roles left.... hmmm, seems a bit easy though.
I'm not quite getting this statement - Why exactly are we assuming that there are no killing roles left? Someone had to kill the leaders of the cults... Or has someone claimed a Cop / Vig Role?

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:You're accusing me of claiming a knight who is in all likelihood in the game to cover up my real pro-town role?
? Real protown role? Are you actually suggesting that you claimed something other than your real role? Only scum do this...

And I'm very confused as to whom you think is in the game to cover up your real role? And I'd like to understand why you think this would be done.

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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:53 pm

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Aureal wrote: Because of course, there couldn't possibly be any other useful roles out there.
No, but we've probably lost our most important power roles.
Aureal wrote: No indication of other anti-town roles?! The game is still going, isn't it?
There are cultists left obviously. I phrased that badly.
Aureal wrote: I note you didn't address my point about information at all.
Point 3 addresses that.
I'm not quite getting this statement - Why exactly are we assuming that there are no killing roles left? Someone had to kill the leaders of the cults... Or has someone claimed a Cop / Vig Role?
Mr. Stoofer, SK, remember? He killed them. Last night we had no kills. I don't think we could possibly have more than 2 cults and 1 SK. That's pretty frigging powerful.
? Real protown role? Are you actually suggesting that you claimed something other than your real role? Only scum do this...
Shamrock insinuated this. That question was meant to illustrate the ludicracy of that insinuation.

I am suspicious of Don Gaetano's claim. Has someone targetted him?

And vIQleS, claim!
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:58 am

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It's a very easy one to check, which I will be doing tonight if no one has done so already... [that's about don gaetano's claim]

We are only searching for cult members it seems now, and we know that they can not kill [2 cults would mean 2 deaths, I could have prevented one, but that still leaves the other,so unless we have another protection role out there (if so, keep to yourself for now) we know that both of the cults can not kill] however they may still be able to recuit [first recuit is now leader]...

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Cogito ergo sum -King arthur, vanilla
Enigma91 - Zoot, vanilla
Don gaetano - Patsy, practically vanilla but can be tested
Shamrock - Sir Robin, lynch proof townie
Aureal - Sir Bedevere, finder of knights
vIQleS - yet to claim

So even if vIQleS claims a knight, that only gives us 4 knights at most (including King Arthur) so unless the cult leaders could recuit each other means the cults could not get a marjority (which I think is the win for a cult) if they could only recuit knights.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:54 am

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Yeah, I figured I would be suspicious since Patsy is an extremely minor character in the holy grail, but it's not like I would be a great loss to the town anyway.

Fortunately my role can be tested during the night. Something I didn't even think about.

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Still, I'm getting more and more convinced that everyone has an original role to claim, so the mass-roleclaim might not help us much... I could be wrong though.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:03 am

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Just remembered. All the people that have died and all the people that are alive, have a character from the holy grail, except vIQleS.

It sounds strange that there should be just one character that's not from the movie in the game... but he did admit to it on page one, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:08 am

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Kenji wrote: claim list:
Kenji- Doc
Cogito ergo sum -King arthur, vanilla
Enigma91 - Zoot, vanilla
Don gaetano - Patsy, practically vanilla but can be tested
Shamrock - Sir Robin, lynch proof townie
Aureal - Sir Bedevere, finder of knights
vIQleS - yet to claim
Just to clarify, I am
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Every role so far has been from the Holy Grail. I'd be surprised if any of them weren't, though I suppose it's not good to try and outguess the mod.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:05 am

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vIQleS has already said his role isn't from the holy grail.

Either he's lying, or there has to be a role that's not from the holy grail.
vIQleS has already said his role isn't from the holy grail.

Either he's lying, or there has to be a role that's not from the holy grail.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:17 am

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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:04 am

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I am Brian.

No powers.. Townie (obviously)

And i really am - I am surprised that i'm the only one, unless some of those claiming are in fact scum/cultists and claiming HG to be 'safe'
(I would guess minor roles...)

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CES for now but still FOS: you didn't explain the other odd statement that you made....
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:07 am

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Brian from the life of Brian?

Also if Aureal could be so kind as to share her results, that would be nice.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:02 am

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Kenji wrote:Aureal - Sir Bedevere, finder of knights
I find
swords
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Night 1- Coron, no sword
Night 2- Enigma, no sword
Night 3- Kenji, no sword
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:33 am

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Although a knight-only thing could well be a possible cult restriction, we certainly shouldn't limit ourselves completely to knights. I was personally hoping that we could catch a cultist in a fake non-knight claim, but all the claims fit so far(we haven't had any confirmation on Don, but it'd be risky to fake). Unless Aureal is cult with Enigma or Kenji.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:03 am

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Vote Count

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1 Aureal
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4 Not voting
(Don, Enigma, Aureal, viqles)

4 to lynch
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:28 am

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It's not that much of a stretch... both the cult leaders are knights, it'd make sense in a flavour way for them to to only recuit other knights. But as I showed in my last post, there aren't enough knights for it to be true!

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just noticed I was still voting.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:23 am

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Just thinking out loud here, but what about a no-lynch, so Aureal can check Don Gaetano and vIQleS?
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:02 am

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I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. When I suggested that the cult leaders recruited knights, I meant they turn their recruits <i>into</i> knights. As in, Black Knight recruits Person A. Person A is now Black Knight Junior. Something along those lines. Of course, I've never dealt with a cult before in a game, so if that sounds stupidly different from how cults work just ignore it.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:37 am

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oh... I see...

But with 4 people already claiming to be knights you are practucally useless unless you keep investigating the same person... at least you can check Don for us to back up whatever result I get.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:39 am

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3, not 4. He can check Don and vIQleS tonight.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:39 pm

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Well, that solved nothing. Ideas?

The only thing I have so far is still just Enigma.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:57 am

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Well, as Patsy I'm almost positive I'm almost positive that I don't have a sword, but I'm almost certain that CES and Shamrock would have one. Does that make them scum?

The only way to confirm me is to target me to get the message. Then again Aureal is the only one (atleast the only pro-town player) left with a night choice, so I guess he could target me tonight if he wants to.

The only person I'm suspicious about, based on the claims is vIQleS, and that's only because he's the only one with a role not from the Holy Grail, but he has been very open about it from the start.

Maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea afterall, unless people think the remaining cultist(s) (if he/they are the only scum left) can still recruit, then we should absolutely use our lynch.

What do you guys think?
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