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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:06 am
by Sugar Cain
DoctorPepper-2 thenwearth, shana

thenewearth-3 aries, empking, TIP

Sugar Cain-1- NEC

TheIrishPope-2 DP, sugar cain



I think this is correct. I think what NEC is doing is so fed up with stupidity that I’m having a very hard time seeing town intent here. I still think its an excellent lynch. Both Shana and EMP seem to be coasting along quite nicely. Maestro either needs to be force replaced or lynched.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:10 am
by Ineffective
Guyyyyyyyyyyysssssssssss

I dont think we need to state the origional reason for voting because SC is digging themselves a hole and spewing BS

We gunna casebuild now --- talking with my other half

-f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:10 am
by Ineffective
OOOOPS

ALT SLIP AND MIS-SIGN LOL

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:33 am
by Sugar Cain
In post 151, Ineffective wrote:Guyyyyyyyyyyysssssssssss

I dont think we need to state the origional reason for voting because SC is digging themselves a hole and spewing BS

We gunna casebuild now --- talking with my other half

-f
Translation: We never had a case to begin with and Nero's calling us on our obvious bullshit and reacting which was our stupid plan all along.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:05 am
by Empking
I'm going to vote Ineffective once I learn who 'e is.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:24 am
by NoEffenCllue
Sugar Cain initially caught our eye because although they had made a fair number of posts compared to other players, we could see nothing in those posts that reflected a town motivation. Cain comes off almost trollish, and Mara looks uncomfortable to my eye. There is no effort to make this hydra look seamless, which is something I've noticed she takes pride in doing with other hydras, to the point where she gets angry about being addressed by her main name. And in post #57 Mara put down a vote on a pitifully easy lynch candidate, TIP.

So on page 3 we voted them. We thought a vote might snap them into focusing on the game. That's not precisely what happened, but what did happen was not a disappointment.

Post #81 jumps to a conclusion about the reason for our vote, calling it a piggy-back Though a little more sophisticated than the garden variety, this post reeks of OMGUS.

Post #85 comes off...creepy. "I want to kill", not "I want to vote" or "I want to lynch". It's usually a scum mindset that phrases things this way IME.

Post #90 he reiterates the false reasoning about our vote decision.

We spar for a couple more posts, and then Cain disappears. And we hear nothing from Sugar Cain until nearly 48 hours later.

Post 129 is then made by Mara. The tone of this post is conciliatory. It comes off as a buddying effort to me, and I was the ostensible target, with maybe a little divide and conquer thrown in for good measure. And she moves their vote off us an back onto TIP.

I called Mara on her claim that I was playing to my town meta.

She came back with stuff about subtle meta, claiming that my "paranoia" was familiar from the polygamy game. And yes, I was paranoid in that game. I was playing with a bunch of people for the first time, and I didn't like the nightless game format. In this game, I am not a cloud of free floating paranoia. I am focused right now on one slot that first raised my suspicions, and then did not disappoint once the chase was up.

Post 145 is a jewel. When I first read it, I was mollified...was this townfeel? But no. Sentence by sentence, it is not:

1."why y'all changing your meta." - explained already. It's not "my" meta. I've been compromising my game parameters while I learned site meta and adjusted to a months-long game format, and figured out how to fit the style of play I prefer into this format.

2. "And you never will 'cause you have nothing. On one hand this could be some bullshit reaction test. On the other hand (and what its looking like to me) is you're scum and by saying "I hope people are seeing what we are seeing" and expect another player to claim what they "see" and you'll latch onto it." - purely defense by offence, which has been the case all along. He doesn't want to hear what our case consisted of. he wants to dismiss it sight unseen.

3. "Other than being flat out wrong about our alignment, this is also extremely anti-town for a few reasons. 1.) No townie in their right mind is going to blindly sheep you."" - hoping for a self-fullfilling prophecy?

"I see no reason for a supposed town (with a pre-made case) to not voice their opinion and attempt to convince the town that we should be the days lynch." - every new post he's made is a case on its own. I think he realizes this, and hopes to distract from it by handwaving about the unseen case.

"And the longer you withhold said "reasoning", you hold the game hostage. Which transitions nicely to my second point.
- "holding the game hostage". as though that is even possible while actively participating.
2.) We have 6 days left. The longer you withhold said reasoning the less time that the town has to discuss the case on us and possibly/hopefully on someone else. There's also the fact that early game no lynchs are a bad idea so with holding reasoning and not allowing town to discuss...the closer to dl town will say "fuck it" and lynch willy nilly."

We do not have six days left. At the time this post was made, we had 10 days. This creates a false sense of urgency, in the hopes of getting other players to dismiss our concerns. And, hilariously, this section comes off as though he knows he is talking to a town player and making a plea for reasonableness.

And finally:

"there's also the fact to you seem to be tunneling which is never a good thing."

yes, the last refuge of caught scum. "YOU'RE TUNNELLING ME!!!!!"

- fferyllt

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:26 am
by NoEffenCllue
In post 154, Empking wrote:I'm going to vote Ineffective once I learn who 'e is.
Well hello there.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:28 am
by Empking
Unvote
Vote: NoCllue

False signature.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:39 am
by NoEffenCllue
In post 157, Empking wrote:
Unvote
Vote: NoCllue

False signature.
Not false. confused. His nick is eff elsewhere.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:40 am
by NoEffenCllue
but....go ahead and ignore our case. It's exceptionally townish behavior.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:47 am
by Sugar Cain
hey look, a lot of bs and scumtells. When I get back i'll tell you all why we should be killing this.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:48 am
by NoEffenCllue
yeah, you should get some ointment for that.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:59 am
by TheIrishPope
In post 141, Aeris wrote:
In post 127, TheIrishPope wrote:I wasn't out of RVS because nothing was happening and no one was posting. I guess we're getting somewhere now. Maybe tne being scared is worth commenting on?
I don't have reads, again, because no one is posting. I can't formulate reads out of thin air.
PEdit: What theory have I fabricated? Misreading means I'm scum? I was unaware of this. You guys should tell me these kinds of things more often.

Everyone but maestro has posted. you don't have one town or scum read?
I am indecisive on the hydra battle right here, I'm faintly leaning to both of them being town. Or maybe they're scum attacking each other and I am horribly wrong.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:25 pm
by NoEffenCllue
TIP stop posting.

Its like you are asking to be lynched every time you post.

I dont think you are scum because you are always like this.

-i

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:45 pm
by TheIrishPope
In post 163, NoEffenCllue wrote:TIP stop posting.

Its like you are asking to be lynched every time you post.

I dont think you are scum because you are always like this.

-i
Why stop now?
And how do you know my playstyle?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:48 pm
by fferyllt
In post 164, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 163, NoEffenCllue wrote:TIP stop posting.

Its like you are asking to be lynched every time you post.

I dont think you are scum because you are always like this.

-i
Why stop now?
And how do you know my playstyle?
I've meta'd you. And we talk.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:48 pm
by NoEffenCllue
In post 165, fferyllt wrote:
In post 164, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 163, NoEffenCllue wrote:TIP stop posting.

Its like you are asking to be lynched every time you post.

I dont think you are scum because you are always like this.

-i
Why stop now?
And how do you know my playstyle?
I've meta'd you. And we talk.

- f
damn it

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:53 pm
by TheIrishPope
I have no meta on this site and we've never talked :o

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:54 pm
by NoEffenCllue
not you and I. eff and I.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:56 pm
by TheIrishPope
So what have you talked about?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:03 pm
by NoEffenCllue
In post 169, TheIrishPope wrote:So what have you talked about?
we've talked about how you are looking like an easy lynch and how scum can't seem to resist easy lynches. Sometimes a player just comes off like scum bait. All town has to do is figure out who should smart enough to look more closely before leaping.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:07 pm
by TheIrishPope
Does that mean you two have a town, null, or scum read on me?
I agree that people here shouldn't act with such haste. However, find balance. 7 pages, 170 posts in 4 days is despicable.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:11 pm
by fferyllt
In post 171, TheIrishPope wrote:Does that mean you two have a town, null, or scum read on me?
I agree that people here shouldn't act with such haste. However, find balance. 7 pages, 170 posts in 4 days is despicable.
Riight now I am agnostic on your alignment.

yeah 7 pages in 4 days is pretty measly. Some players have not put nearly enough in the thread to base a read on.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:11 pm
by NoEffenCllue
In post 172, fferyllt wrote:
In post 171, TheIrishPope wrote:Does that mean you two have a town, null, or scum read on me?
I agree that people here shouldn't act with such haste. However, find balance. 7 pages, 170 posts in 4 days is despicable.
Riight now I am agnostic on your alignment.

yeah 7 pages in 4 days is pretty measly. Some players have not put nearly enough in the thread to base a read on.

- f
jesus christ. again.

- f

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:13 pm
by TheIrishPope
All alt slips are forgiven :P

Good to know, because I do have a read on you. When I solidify it, I will let you know.