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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:57 pm

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Commodore Amazing wrote:AniX had a guilty on her, right? AniX is dead, and I know that it was the scum that killed
her
. I guess you might not trust that I'm scum, but fom my POV, claramata was scum, right? Is there any way I can help clear myself? I have already claimed.
Are you referring to AniX by this second "her"?

Because AniX is a guy. Just wanting to get this clear.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:09 pm

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If AniX wasn't sane, then shouldn't there be a normal cop out there? Wouldn't someone have counterclaimed?

Oh, and before someone comes out with the "RotN could have been the real cop," don't bother. I'm not going to full claim just yet, but I happen to know that RotN was vanilla.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:13 pm

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I'm here.

Given that the options we're weighing seem to be massclaim and lynch me, I'mma go ahead and claim, which could explain some things.

I'm the guy who drives the train to Mauntak and back. Apperantly I can switch people's seats or something, which, by Fritzlogic (TM) means I'm a setup manipulator-- each night, I pick two people and switch their nighttargets. Example: If I switch a cop and a doctor, the doctor would get results on their target and the cop would protect his.

My choices so far:

Night1: Elvis_Knits and Iba
Night2: CA and Vaughn
Night3: help im a bug and Claramata

Nights 1 and 2 were Jentsu, not me. Last night, I switched those two because I thought they might be scum together, and so a succesful switch would mean completely shutting down that scum family's kills for the night.

...in any case, my role should be fairly confirmable to the people I've already targetted.

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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:24 pm

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Ha...that completely explains the death by stone on night 2, and makes more sense balance wise then CA being mafia with a day-kill + having a SK in the game. PLUS, killing with a stone is not what I would expect from a Laguna type person.

Ibaesha should claim next, and hopefully, she can confirm this ability. Then me or help, it doesn't really matter from there..
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:47 am

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help im a bug wrote:
Commodore Amazing wrote:AniX had a guilty on her, right? AniX is dead, and I know that it was the scum that killed
her
. I guess you might not trust that I'm scum, but fom my POV, claramata was scum, right? Is there any way I can help clear myself? I have already claimed.
Are you referring to AniX by this second "her"?

Because AniX is a guy. Just wanting to get this clear.
I was referring to claramata. AniX had guilty investigations on claramata and Vaughn.

@help im a bug - Some times godfathers have investigation immunity, sometimes they don't (it can be just a flavorful thing, or they can eb the person who ultimately decides on who is night-killed, or they can have night-kill immunity instead). This time, I believe that he didn't have night-kill immunity.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:58 am

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CA wrote:This time, I believe that he didn't have night-kill immunity.
Uh, did you word this correctly?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:06 am

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cropcircles wrote:
CA wrote:This time, I believe that he didn't have night-kill immunity.
Uh, did you word this correctly?
Oops. No. He did have night kill immunity. I don't think he had investigation immunity (i.e., if he were investigated, he would appear scum).
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:07 am

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Commodore Amazing wrote:
help im a bug wrote:
Commodore Amazing wrote:AniX had a guilty on her, right? AniX is dead, and I know that it was the scum that killed
her
. I guess you might not trust that I'm scum, but fom my POV, claramata was scum, right? Is there any way I can help clear myself? I have already claimed.
Are you referring to AniX by this second "her"?

Because AniX is a guy. Just wanting to get this clear.
I was referring to claramata. AniX had guilty investigations on claramata and Vaughn.

@help im a bug - Some times godfathers have investigation immunity, sometimes they don't (it can be just a flavorful thing, or they can eb the person who ultimately decides on who is night-killed, or they can have night-kill immunity instead). This time, I believe that he didn't have night-kill immunity.
Ugh. Didn't read the quote. I meant AniX. That should have been a him. My bad.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:52 am

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Eh, I'll claim next, it's fine.

I'm Clementine.

I have two abilities - one is that I'm a mason with Joel.
The other is that I'm a slut - I choose someone each night to distract with my feminine wiles (basically a roleblocker)

1st night, I chose Commodore Amazing
2nd night, I chose Ibaesha
3rd night, I chose Claramata
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:02 am

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Commodore Amazing - vig, bully
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Jentsu
- role swapper; train driver
ibaesha - ?
help im a bug - Clementine; mason / role blocker
cropcircles - ?

@help im a bug - Why did you block ibaesha night two?

Pie's role-claim is pretty tough to claim as scum, and we can possibly confirm it tomorrow.

Let's not forget that scum could have abilities in addition to night-kills.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:06 am

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I had a suspicion that she might be scum, pretty much. I'm still not certain she isn't.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:37 am

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There's really no point in me waiting any longer on this. I'm Joel. Mason buddy with help. Hehe...you never told me the nature of your roleblock. That's funny.

"You see, help, I assume you fucked somebody tonight. Isn't that how you get people to like you?" [/movie reference]

Okay, so I get messages from people who have been erased(I have faint memories of them). RotN just told me he was vanilla, and AniX told me that I was town(always good to know :roll:) Unfortunatly, Ani never told us his Role name, and didn't leave it in his message. Neither did RotN. :?

Anyway, I think it is pretty clear that Clara was scum. First of all, she practically claimed the same role as I have, which is very unlikely.

Second, Ani wasn't paranoid, he got innocent on me, so that leaves only insane or sane. But what are the odds he'd be insane, but just so happen to get the correct results on me and Vaughn?

Third, Pie claims to have switched Clara and Help's abilities last night, and then Clara get's erased while help tried to RB her. I believe that Clara was scum, and so the switch gave help the mafia kill ability, and thus he killed Clara and erased her.

Pie could be scum, but I think it unlikely. I'm eagerly awaiting Ibaesha's claim.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:23 am

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Okay, if AniX got innocent on you, then I can believe that he was sane, and claramata was scum. The only thing, though, is that I thought Commodore Amazing was vigging claramata last night. Who killed AniX then, if I did through a role switch?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:30 am

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Hmm, I have a theory, but I'll wait until Ibaesha claims to say it.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:05 am

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Clara must not have been sent to do the kill.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:16 pm

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Woot, looks like I made the right choice last night.

help and cropcircles still could potentially be scumbuddies instead of masons, but I doubt it.

Really all there is left to do is wait for more claims.

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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:03 am

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[calls] Ibaaaeeeeeeesha, where arrrrrre yoouuuu?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:05 am

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I'm Mary. I check people for items.

Night 1: No choice because my internet was out.
Night 2: I checked help and found nothing.
Night 3: I checked cropcircles and found an organizer.

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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:14 am

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Yay! Okay, so I'm sure our last scum is between Ibaesha and Pie. But if Pie were scum, wouldn't he have picked CA last night to try and give him a non-vig ability so that Clara wouldn't die? That makes my pick Ibae.
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If she isn't scum, then help blocks Pie while CA vigs him. GG?
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:35 am

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cropcircles wrote:Yay! Okay, so I'm sure our last scum is between Ibaesha and Pie. But if Pie were scum, wouldn't he have picked CA last night to try and give him a non-vig ability so that Clara wouldn't die? That makes my pick Ibae.
Vote Ibaesha


If she isn't scum, then help blocks Pie while CA vigs him. GG?
That sounds right; I'm going to do a reread before we think about sealing the deal. I want to make sure I didn't miss anything.

And then I realized that posts are missing all over the place.

Hmmm... I just want to be sure that claramata and the godfather were both scum before I do this.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:00 am

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Well, my "theory" was that CA was cum with Clara and targeted AniX instead of Claramata, but on further reflection it would be ridiculously ballsy of him to promise to kill his scum buddy in the night.

So I'm buying the Ibaesha is scum theory for now, and I don't think we're at lynch or lose, so
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:22 am

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You know what, screw this. If CA proves he can choose our lynch multiple times, that clears him of being scum, and if help blocks Pie, then there really isn't chance the mafia can get another kill.

CA, would you please confirm your ability once more on Ibae and get this game over with?
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:52 pm

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Sounds good to me.

I actually kinda think we are at lynch-or-lose, based on Vaughn's claiming SK yesterday. He decided to take himself out and take a townie down with him, which would be bad play if he didn't have 2 of his friends left alive.

Waiting for CA, then. Yeah, the plan sounds good.

...are cropcircles and help big enough characters that they really have to be in the game? Are they completely confirmed? Just standard paranoia setting in.

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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:05 pm

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cropcircles and help are claiming the biggest characters in the movie.

I can only daykill once. I said that in my original claim, I believe.

Hm, I would have thought Mary was a scum role...
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:50 pm

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Okay, so CA, vig Pie. If you don't comply, you will be lynched tomorrow.

@Pie:Joel and Clem are the protaganists of the movie and the 2 characters(other then one other) who would have the best reason to go against Lacuna.

Mary, on the other hand, could go either way. I won't go into flavor reasons, because anyone who hasn't seen this movie probably should, and it's only good if you don't know how it ends(or begins, for that matter), but you could make a flavor arguement for Mary to be Town, Mafia, or even Nuetral.

Either way, my bet would be that AniX was Mary, as I can't think of anyone who would make more sense as a cop, and Ibaesha is false claiming. Either that, or Mrs. Merzwiak(I'm sure I spelled that wrong) was AniX. At any rate, the mafia was most likely Howard, Stan, and Patrick, with Mary being a possibility.
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