Information Instead of Analysis. Instead of actually scumhunting, Fegelein instead chooses to talk theory instead. Therefore, he can say that he's actually done something while instead he's just blending in the background.
That's pretty rich coming from you, don't you think?
Information Instead of Analysis. Instead of actually scumhunting, Fegelein instead chooses to talk theory instead. Therefore, he can say that he's actually done something while instead he's just blending in the background.
That's pretty rich coming from you, don't you think?
Yes, I know. However, I'm not voting him
because
he's guilty of IIoA.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:09 pm
by Miss Stranger
@Antagon:
Keep us updated when you're done and please don't focus exclusively on Fegelein. I'd appreciate a T/S list.
@Feel It:
I know what makes you uncomfortable about James May and I certainly don't trust him yet, but for now it looks like he's doing *something* productive, albeit very timid, which is more than what can be said about the gentlemen Fegelein, Antagon and Nachomamma8.
In post 148, Feel It wrote:I know what you mean, congratz on your pregnancy btw
Thanks! I'm halfway through already! Fathers amongst you can probably imagine what I'm being through right now
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:26 pm
by Miss Stranger
I can't sleep... here's my brief T/S list for the moment.
Antagon (SE):
he's participating very little and his participation is involved with very odd, isolated posts with little actual content. Seems focused on Fegelein a lot. I definitely don't trust this person. Either apathetic town or very cautious scum, and both are bad.
champinoman:
extremely paranoid and aggressive, and somewhat OMGUS-y. Doesn't hesitate to point tiniest details and flail hands in suspicion. Very bombastic words and direct accusations ("are you covering up for your scum buddy", "are you trying to avoid an obvious lynch", "you clearly don't play this for the town"). I'm not sure if that is meant to intimidate or incriminate. I don't think he's "subtly buddying" with Gen_Wolf, but rather finds his attackers scummier. If I'm entirely correct about his paranoia, he shapes up as a "Mad-eye Moody" townie. He finds pretty much everyone scummy which is little better than blind shooting and relying on mathematical odds when it comes to a lynch. In that case I hope in time his paranoia will settle or at least become less diffused. On the other hand, his paranoia could be a scum paranoia of being uncovered, and he's aggressively pushing on people who attack him to bully them into defending themselves so he can step away from the spotlight. He earns town points for calling out on lurkers however and if I have to decide, I'd put him into my town zone.
Feel It:
I've been uncertain about him for a while. He earned scum credit for pulling up the "vote hopping" thing and for immediately polarly changing his attitude a few posts later, but has been lately accumulating town credit by trying to scumhunt outside of Gen_Wolf and broadening his view point. I'm stiiilll not entirely certain, so for now I'm putting him on hold.
Fegelein (SE):
earlier on I had a minor town read on him, but since he's diminished his activity, and his posts all look like haiku statements. He seems pretty certain that James May and Nachomamma are scum, but has offered little insight into why. He's insanely fast to get reads on people, but offers no argumentation on them. Either he already knows everything, or prefers not to say anything, or he's too busy. Upon inspection of his other ongoing games, I think I'm going with the latter, just to give him the benefit of doubt, but that's not to say I think he's town (scum can also be busy). Null.
Gen_Wolf (SE):
my "favourite player" to discuss - my thoughts on him are scattered all over the game, and I don't think I need repeat myself. He's very much stepping on the town/scum line, and I'm going to put him slightly into the town direction for now.
Generic:
almost certainly town. Consistent and insightful analysis and good reaction to pressure from Nacho. Doesn't seem to care about compressing his posts content or rewording them, which is good. Excellent response to paranoid attacks from Champ. I don't think I can find something suspicious.
James May:
he made an odd waltz-in in the middle of the game and got immediately picked on this line: "I'm trying to be a bit more cautious this time", pointed as a heavy scumtell by Fegelein and Champ and apparently Feel It. Afraid to jump to conclusions because last game he was wrong and lost (isn't that what happens everytime when town loses?). He currently has no scumreads on anyone and plans on relying on meta once he has more time. Why meta and not the current game? (I admit I use meta a little, but only to see if a certain Mr. Busy is really busy or just bluffing). I think his cautiousness is more about the (newbie / just-hammered-bad-and-still-sore?) fear of lynching the wrong person rather than fear of getting more involved, and I currently don't think he's as scummy as people make him seem to be. He admits to being busy, but did a little bit of reads, which IMO speaks more good than bad about him and I'm interested to see what more he has to say once he finishes his finals. What I personally don't like is the fact I notice a very subtle reliance on my trust in him and that in post
he explained his reads on everybody except on me. It makes me uncomfortable and I feel at a future point he might try to talk me into/lean on me for defence should he become more heavily suspected. For now I'd say he's more likely town than scum, but can easily go the other way around.
Nachomamma8 (IC):
he arrived on stage with thunder and lightning and vanished just as quickly. He shares Antagon's selective reading, who just happens to be my current strongest suspect. Fegelein mentioned he's playing his scum meta, and from the newbie game he referenced I'd say he's right (although I'm still asking what is his town meta and how is it different). He questions a lot and demands excessive explanation, but he himself has provided little of it, best example being post
. I'd really like a broader #91-style analysis from him, because I'm not particularly satisfied with his present lack of involvement. I hope it's due to being overburdened with games. In either case, I'm going to go with null.
Well... I really can't sleep... that wasn't very brief was it...
he's participating very little and his participation is involved with very odd, isolated posts with little actual content. Seems focused on Fegelein a lot. I definitely don't trust this person. Either apathetic town or very cautious scum, and both are bad.
champinoman:
extremely paranoid and aggressive, and somewhat OMGUS-y. Doesn't hesitate to point tiniest details and flail hands in suspicion. Very bombastic words and direct accusations ("are you covering up for your scum buddy", "are you trying to avoid an obvious lynch", "you clearly don't play this for the town"). I'm not sure if that is meant to intimidate or incriminate. I don't think he's "subtly buddying" with Gen_Wolf, but rather finds his attackers scummier. If I'm entirely correct about his paranoia, he shapes up as a "Mad-eye Moody" townie. He finds pretty much everyone scummy which is little better than blind shooting and relying on mathematical odds when it comes to a lynch. In that case I hope in time his paranoia will settle or at least become less diffused. On the other hand, his paranoia could be a scum paranoia of being uncovered, and he's aggressively pushing on people who attack him to bully them into defending themselves so he can step away from the spotlight. He earns town points for calling out on lurkers however and if I have to decide, I'd put him into my town zone.
Feel It:
I've been uncertain about him for a while. He earned scum credit for pulling up the "vote hopping" thing and for immediately polarly changing his attitude a few posts later, but has been lately accumulating town credit by trying to scumhunt outside of Gen_Wolf and broadening his view point. I'm stiiilll not entirely certain, so for now I'm putting him on hold.
Fegelein (SE):
earlier on I had a minor town read on him, but since he's diminished his activity, and his posts all look like haiku statements. He seems pretty certain that James May and Nachomamma are scum, but has offered little insight into why. He's insanely fast to get reads on people, but offers no argumentation on them. Either he already knows everything, or prefers not to say anything, or he's too busy. Upon inspection of his other ongoing games, I think I'm going with the latter, just to give him the benefit of doubt, but that's not to say I think he's town (scum can also be busy). Null.
Gen_Wolf (SE):
my "favourite player" to discuss - my thoughts on him are scattered all over the game, and I don't think I need repeat myself. He's very much stepping on the town/scum line, and I'm going to put him slightly into the town direction for now.
Generic:
almost certainly town. Consistent and insightful analysis and good reaction to pressure from Nacho. Doesn't seem to care about compressing his posts content or rewording them, which is good. Excellent response to paranoid attacks from Champ. I don't think I can find something suspicious.
James May:
he made an odd waltz-in in the middle of the game and got immediately picked on this line: "I'm trying to be a bit more cautious this time", pointed as a heavy scumtell by Fegelein and Champ and apparently Feel It. Afraid to jump to conclusions because last game he was wrong and lost (isn't that what happens everytime when town loses?). He currently has no scumreads on anyone and plans on relying on meta once he has more time. Why meta and not the current game? (I admit I use meta a little, but only to see if a certain Mr. Busy is really busy or just bluffing). I think his cautiousness is more about the (newbie / just-hammered-bad-and-still-sore?) fear of lynching the wrong person rather than fear of getting more involved, and I currently don't think he's as scummy as people make him seem to be. He admits to being busy, but did a little bit of reads, which IMO speaks more good than bad about him and I'm interested to see what more he has to say once he finishes his finals. What I personally don't like is the fact I notice a very subtle reliance on my trust in him and that in post
he explained his reads on everybody except on me. It makes me uncomfortable and I feel at a future point he might try to talk me into/lean on me for defence should he become more heavily suspected. For now I'd say he's more likely town than scum, but can easily go the other way around.
Nachomamma8 (IC):
he arrived on stage with thunder and lightning and vanished just as quickly. He shares Antagon's selective reading, who just happens to be my current strongest suspect. Fegelein mentioned he's playing his scum meta, and from the newbie game he referenced I'd say he's right (although I'm still asking what is his town meta and how is it different). He questions a lot and demands excessive explanation, but he himself has provided little of it, best example being post
. I'd really like a broader #91-style analysis from him, because I'm not particularly satisfied with his present lack of involvement. I hope it's due to being overburdened with games. In either case, I'm going to go with null.
Well... I really can't sleep... that wasn't very brief was it...
How is that scummy? You just sound butthurt that I started a bw on you at the beginning of the game.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:08 pm
by Miss Stranger
Feel It: I've been uncertain about him for a while. He earned scum credit for pulling up the "vote hopping" thing and for
immediately polarly changing his attitude
a few posts later, but has been lately accumulating town credit by trying to scumhunt outside of Gen_Wolf and broadening his view point. I'm stiiilll not entirely certain, so for now I'm putting him on hold.
Unless you weren't serious about vote hopping and editing being scummy, this is how.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:07 pm
by Generic
It's always annoying when almost the entire game reads you as town and you ARE town :p my chances if survival tonight just took a major dip.
At least when you are under suspicion you might be kept alive for the potential mislynch, this is why I don't like a lot if positive feedback.
If I spot a scum player today though at least that works in my favour.
I will do another assessment sweep when I get time, still not a huge amount from some, has everyone at least offered early analysis on the rest of the players? Always useful if someone flips scum to see who they read as what.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:08 pm
by Generic
Missed a bit off there.
Works in my favour before I go.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:20 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 100, Gen_Wolf wrote:The only thing I ask that as townie players please do not lynch me anytime soon. We have 12 days to lynch someone. Within those 12 days if you still feel the need to lynch me that is mellow but at least take the other 12 days for scum to talk there way into trouble.
There's no reason to get fatalistic 4 pages into the game. What do you think of the case against you?
In post 105, Gen_Wolf wrote:It is almost like a double bluff knowing the Feg wont.
I have no idea what this means.
In post 113, champinoman wrote:Nice long post. Pity there is no content in it. I could summarise this entire post as 'Reiterate a few things already said, point out some really obvious stuff and deflect any possibility of offering my own opinion by asking a return question. Your next few posts over the next hour are very similar too.
I haven't avoided giving my opinions anywhere. You want one? Ask for one.
Generating content early game can either be through broad stroke analysis or early game questioning. I'm more of the questioning type as opposed to the broad stroke analysis type; my thoughts on who is scum/town bounces around a lot early game unless I get lucky and pick up on a smoking gun. Although, I'll admit that I picked up on you as a player with a similar playstyle, so I found the "no content" charge a bit strange.
In post 116, Generic wrote:You are one of the more experienced players aren't you?
He's also a newbie.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:49 pm
by Vel-Rahn Koon
Vote Count 1.4
James May - 1 (Antagon)
Miss Stranger - 2 (champinoman, Gen_Wolf)
Gen_Wolf - 2 (Feel It, Nachomamma8)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Fegelein)
Antagon - 2 (Miss Stranger, James May)
Not Voting - 1 (Generic)
5 to Lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2013-06-30 08:00:00)
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:20 am
by Feel It
Didn't Miss Stranger put a vote on Antagon? Or did she take it off?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:26 am
by Miss Stranger
I did vote, I think Vel overlooked it. I just PM'd him, no worries.
Got it, thanks.
I missed it for two reasons:
The walls of text - you're going to need to learn to be more succinct. I was going to wait to say something after the game but this is a good opportunity. The other players (and the Mod) get tired of swimming through walls of text.
The vote buried in the post instead of on it's own line - self explanatory (and it's in the rules that votes should be on their own line).
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:51 am
by Miss Stranger
Ouchies. Well, my bad. I will try to be more concise from now on, and make sure votes are on separate lines. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:14 am
by Antagon
I will be graduating high school today, but you can expect some more ISOs later today.
he made an odd waltz-in in the middle of the game and got immediately picked on this line: "I'm trying to be a bit more cautious this time", pointed as a heavy scumtell by Fegelein and Champ and apparently Feel It. Afraid to jump to conclusions because last game he was wrong and lost (isn't that what happens everytime when town loses?). He currently has no scumreads on anyone and plans on relying on meta once he has more time. Why meta and not the current game? (I admit I use meta a little, but only to see if a certain Mr. Busy is really busy or just bluffing). I think his cautiousness is more about the (newbie / just-hammered-bad-and-still-sore?) fear of lynching the wrong person rather than fear of getting more involved, and I currently don't think he's as scummy as people make him seem to be. He admits to being busy, but did a little bit of reads, which IMO speaks more good than bad about him and I'm interested to see what more he has to say once he finishes his finals. What I personally don't like is the fact I notice a very subtle reliance on my trust in him and that in post
he explained his reads on everybody except on me. It makes me uncomfortable and I feel at a future point he might try to talk me into/lean on me for defence should he become more heavily suspected. For now I'd say he's more likely town than scum, but can easily go the other way around.
Reason why I'm relying on meta is to get a general idea of everyone that's playing in this game, of course I'm looking into the nulls since I'm uncertain on how their town/scum gameplays are since for me just basing it on the first phase of this game doesn't suffice enough to get solid reads. But once it gets onto the later phases (mainly after Day 2) I can get better info on the players in this current game rather than relying on past games. Luckily, today's my last final so I'll be able to have a bit more free time afterward (still gotta finish up two more classes, yay for summer terms being ridiculously wonky @_@). Also, on post 141, I was more inclined on explaining the players in the null area (with the exception of Generic) and to be quite honest, I haven't spotted on anything really suspecting about you so far in this game.
what I find most interesting is when I did that the comments became singles sentences...
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:24 am
by Feel It
In post 169, Generic wrote:what I find most interesting is when I did that the comments became singles sentences...
lol, well you didn't give any explanation so we're just kinda waiting.
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:58 am
by Gen_Wolf
Hi All, Just a quick contribution from what I have read over. From what I can see the game is still focused heavily on that one post of mine. Classic. I was a bit weary of Champ buddying up a bit but reading over it again, like it has been mentioned, it is not as much buddying up as he is asking a simple question, which I obviously agree with his opinion on.
Taken from one of MS's wall of posts:
He finds pretty much everyone scummy which is little better than blind shooting and relying on mathematical odds when it comes to a lynch.
Surely this is a good thing? If he trusts no one it would indicate that he is swaying towards town than scum.
Taken from one of MS's wall of posts:
Gen_Wolf (SE): my "favourite player" to discuss
Ah, don't flatter me
In post 100, Gen_Wolf wrote:
The only thing I ask that as townie players please do not lynch me anytime soon. We have 12 days to lynch someone. Within those 12 days if you still feel the need to lynch me that is mellow but at least take the other 12 days for scum to talk there way into trouble.
There's no reason to get fatalistic 4 pages into the game. What do you think of the case against you?
I think to center a game around this one post, made on day 1 is silly. I don't feel that there is much of a case against me but rather a few opportunists. They speak of how I didn't respond well under pressure yet I was frustrated by how they failed to see the joke in it all. Simple logic denotes that you do not lynch someone 2 pages in. Now, it is not the type of environment to say it in but I would feel saying it on page 1 would create the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry, that is all for now. Will be back on the weekend
Agreed, Miss Strangers' wish to edit posts, changing votes on a joke bw could be newness or perhaps an early scumtell?
In post 25, Feel It wrote:It's nothing huge of course, just somewhat suspicious behavior, you may well be telling the truth, but you slipped up first so you get prodded first. You don't seem that new to me. Have you played on other sites?
In post 20, Gen_Wolf wrote:Why bother with day 1. Lets just lynch Miss Stranger now and go from there? We are already onto our first scum.
Lynching anybody this early would be silly, we need to poke and prod and talk and get reactions, see who seems scummiest before making a decision. Not sure if I should give you benefit of the doubt due to your newness or change my vote now tbh.
I'm not satisfied with his explanation that he wasn't serious, it was an odd and anti-town comment. I looked at some of his other games and I didn't seem him act like that.
In post 56, Feel It wrote:Are you serious? I'm one the more involved posters so far, and retorting my scum claim with an accusation against me only makes you look even worse, look how quickly and desperate you latched on to champinoman backing you up before you accuse me of buddying.
OK, Feel It is leaning Town atm, I like his case against Gen_Wolf, although his tone fluctuates from slightly callous to cheery and merry, which is a little inconsistent. His motives are pretty Towny too, backseat scumhunting a little now, but justifiable by the fact that he has a solid scumread on Gen_Wolf.
Miss Stranger makes REALLY long posts, so I'll probably save her till last.
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:28 am
by Antagon
Spoiler: James May and Gen_Wolf
James May:
In post 74, James May wrote:Feg, I'm trying to be a bit more cautious this time because the last game i played I jumped the gun on a lynch that costed me the game >_> (was town that game btw) and I don't have solid reads on anyone but the questions was merely out of curiosity to see their reasoning. Better to survey the area from afar (well for me at least since I am trying to stop jumping the bullet for long phases like this :/ Use to playing 48-96 hour day phases and it requires a bit of on your feet kind of thing...)
So people can vote me for not having reads, but James May is immune because he says he had no reads?
In post 118, James May wrote:Guess I can give out my reads on those who I have a slight feeling on, skimming through this because I have finals on two of my classes this week so I do apologize for not being active.
Miss Stranger: Aside from that minor derp up on the editing part, it seems like your leaning towards town atm, but I feel like you're being insistent on starting a wagon on gen wolf (although I may not be as experienced in this sort of scumreading/hunting as most people here) but we'll see how gen wolf goes on from this point.
Is that a problem? Both town and scum tunnel. Does wanting to start a wagon on Gen_Wolf automatically make her town?
In post 118, James May wrote:Nacho: Aside from the "backseat scumhunting" that Fegelin pointed out, I can't point out exactly where to place you in atm, leaning slightly towards town maybe.
What do you think about Fegelein's comments that he hasn't
actually
scumhunt but is only asking questions?
In post 118, James May wrote:Generic: So far providing interesting analysis upon other players on his first few posts, it looks like he's town at the moment but who knows, he could be playing a good scum cover-up, we'll see how it goes from there, as I haven't seen how his playstyle is, might look into previous games to find a good meta on him unless if its his first.
Why do you seem overly paranoid? It's very hard to fake scumhunting, so therefore providing logical analysis is more likely to be town. Anyone who acts town could be, according to your read on Generic, extremely good scum.
In post 118, James May wrote:Gen wolf: Heh. Nice sarcastic remark in regards to simply lynching Miss Stranger. Not sure where Feel It (Was it Feel It? Might need to look through it again, but I think it was Feel It. if not was was Feglin) is going on with champin "buddying" you just for the compliment on that remark but i see little to no association with buddying/white knighting involving with that little agreement.
So what read did that give you? All you did was say that you thought that Gen_Wolf was not buddying championman. That "read" just seems like a paragraph to say that Gen_Wolf didn't buddy anyone.
he made an odd waltz-in in the middle of the game and got immediately picked on this line: "I'm trying to be a bit more cautious this time", pointed as a heavy scumtell by Fegelein and Champ and apparently Feel It. Afraid to jump to conclusions because last game he was wrong and lost (isn't that what happens everytime when town loses?). He currently has no scumreads on anyone and plans on relying on meta once he has more time. Why meta and not the current game? (I admit I use meta a little, but only to see if a certain Mr. Busy is really busy or just bluffing). I think his cautiousness is more about the (newbie / just-hammered-bad-and-still-sore?) fear of lynching the wrong person rather than fear of getting more involved, and I currently don't think he's as scummy as people make him seem to be. He admits to being busy, but did a little bit of reads, which IMO speaks more good than bad about him and I'm interested to see what more he has to say once he finishes his finals. What I personally don't like is the fact I notice a very subtle reliance on my trust in him and that in post
he explained his reads on everybody except on me. It makes me uncomfortable and I feel at a future point he might try to talk me into/lean on me for defence should he become more heavily suspected. For now I'd say he's more likely town than scum, but can easily go the other way around.
Reason why I'm relying on meta is to get a general idea of everyone that's playing in this game, of course I'm looking into the nulls since I'm uncertain on how their town/scum gameplays are since for me just basing it on the first phase of this game doesn't suffice enough to get solid reads. But once it gets onto the later phases (mainly after Day 2) I can get better info on the players in this current game rather than relying on past games. Luckily, today's my last final so I'll be able to have a bit more free time afterward (still gotta finish up two more classes, yay for summer terms being ridiculously wonky @_@). Also, on post 141, I was more inclined on explaining the players in the null area (with the exception of Generic) and to be quite honest, I haven't spotted on anything really suspecting about you so far in this game.
So you're saying that meta is the main way for you to get solid reads on Day 1?
In post 20, Gen_Wolf wrote:Why bother with day 1. Lets just lynch Miss Stranger now and go from there? We are already onto our first scum.
Yeah...um...no.
I hope you realize I wasn't being serious?
In post 22, Miss Stranger wrote:I don't see how changing votes in RVS is scummy in any way. Ignoring my obvious joke vote on Gen_Wolf, I simply voted Antagon for starting a wagon on someone who's afk. I don't see how a wagon on an afk person would make them less afk. Game's just started. Sheesh.
And yes, I simply forgot to add my VOTE: tag in my previous post. I thought I could edit instead of doublepost, but apparently I can't. Apologies, rookie mistake. But tell me, Gen_Wolf, what could I possibly hide in my single, straightforward sentence that I would want to edit away? Just asking for your opinion as to why you think is scummy.
Feel It, same question to you. What's exactly wrong with changing an obvious joke vote, during RVS at that, that would make YOU switch vote?
Its a reaction test and it also allows RVS to come to an end. I don't like RVS, the longer it lasts the more crap that gets posted then it gets over analysed. By me changing my vote so early and raising an issue over something as stupid as you editing it allows for you to answer to it and it also gets the game out of RVS by creating suspicions such as the ones we have now.
In post 20, Gen_Wolf wrote:Why bother with day 1. Lets just lynch Miss Stranger now and go from there? We are already onto our first scum.
Lynching anybody this early would be silly, we need to poke and prod and talk and get reactions, see who seems scummiest before making a decision. Not sure if I should give you benefit of the doubt due to your newness or change my vote now tbh.
Feel it, thank you for the explanation I do understand. I did not really intend to lynch Miss Stranger this early. Firstly, I did it for the reaction to see how she responded. Secondly, I did it to end RVS which I think I achieved.
Agreed, Miss Strangers' wish to edit posts, changing votes on a joke bw could be newness or perhaps an early scumtell?
Her wish to edit posts is probably based on the site she comes from which allows that sort of thing.
Changing votes from a joke bandwagon to a serious one is always a good move.
In post 30, Generic wrote:No point in making specific thoughts on comments made at this stage as most will say it was a joke. Best to include it with anything later when it truly begins to matter.
Why are you so worried with how others will perceive you? If it's not a joke, then it will help us get into that stage where things WILL start to matter.
Vote: Generic
I never said I was worried with how people perceive me? I explained why I did it. Why you putting words in my mouth?
Don't like this post from Nacho. Generic's 30 didn't suggest that he was worried about people perceiving him badly. It's just that reads on people during RVS could just be shrugged off as "It's just RVS."
In post 56, Feel It wrote:Are you serious? I'm one the more involved posters so far, and retorting my scum claim with an accusation against me only makes you look even worse, look how quickly and desperate you latched on to champinoman backing you up before you accuse me of buddying.
Yes I am very serious. Just because you have more posts does not make you more involved. It could just mean your posting more fluff. And yes, why thank you for making me look good as I did not latch on to Champinoman, he agreed with my post and liked it. Is that a scum tell now?
@Feel It: Please show me where I have "desperately latched on to champinoman"?
Feel It seems slightly overeager to call out Gen_Wolf for his buddying.
Gen_Wolf
was not buddying championman.
Buddying him would involve calling championman town for making that post in the first place.
The only thing I ask that as townie players please do not lynch me anytime soon. We have 12 days to lynch someone. Within those 12 days if you still feel the need to lynch me that is mellow but at least take the other 12 days for scum to talk there way into trouble.
(snip)
People jumped on Gen_Wolf for his "fatalistic attitude," but this portion is not alignment-indicative at all. It's not "Please don't lynch me," but "Please don't
quicklynch
me." It's highly detrimental for town to lynch someone when there is still time for discussion, but his comment is null because both town and scum can easily post something like this.
I will try to be more concise from now on, and make sure votes are on separate lines. Thanks for the heads up. 
