Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[DTMaster]

Oops forgot

@Jabber
1. Because in practice what TIP did is off to actually doing it. I mean I guess he's experienced enough to do OMG HONESTY IS TOWN. But self-incriminating is something ballsy. It also falls into the meta read that Cabd which is a contradiction since this would fit the day 1 lulz stupid town read that I want both of you to elaborate on.

[TheIrishPope]

Null-scum, Lady.
@Nat, wow, where's this aggression coming from?

[Natirasha]

Calling it like I see it, friend. Take it as a grain of salt--given three more pages, I might think you're the coolest guy around.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Null-

scum

, Lady.
@Nat, wow, where's this aggression coming from?

@Lady,

I have no scum read on you.

Who told you that? I am merely saying that your behaviour is kind of iffy, but that's all.
@Jabberwock, someone told me. I like to know my player list before I jump into a game.

YEAH, OK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am in this position where I am unsure that I am even going to die. If this is some sort of retarded gambit bait, I don't want to give out more information. If I'm dead, my role will become apparent on the upcoming modpost. My thoughts, though? You're annoying and for someone who called me a newbie is the pot calling the kettle black(PS I THINK YOU'RE PROB SCUM),

Lambdadelta is secretly probably good at this game,

Tierce is obviously good at this game, and DTMaster is ballsy as hell. I actually respect him for it, even if I feel impressed to vote for the man who is attempting to kill me.

It ain't no secret, hun. <3

Actually though, why are you scared of giving out information?

[morph the cat]

@Morph the Cat/Jabberwok
1. A point was raised about TIP's prior game activities and gambits. I want meta links/game references. How does dumb early pages TIP differ from learning TIP in terms of town play. Differences in play style and pattern recognition of prior game play works - but there is something off when TIP openly admitted to buddying to Tierce/Jabber slot that I dislike about the wagon. I just want these references, I have a working idea on something else and will dig that up later.

Cold Stone: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=30103

Game with TIP-town (I was scum there): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28000

Another TIP towngame: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=28260

And another: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29547

[Jabberwock]

@Natirasha, post more before you die.
I personally feel the dayvig was fake.

Oh,

do

keep going.

@Jabberwock, if you haven't noticed, RQS is all about reactions. You'll thank me when we reach LyLo. I cannot disclose the name of this person nor would I if I had the capability of doing so HOWEVER I may only say that this person is in this game.
@Lady, wow, I can't believe you misinterpreted me. Feeling a post is scummy is not the same as having a scum read on someone. Do not make assumptions, for they hurt Town. Only applicable if you are Town.

If you did not break site rules by talking about players after the game has started, it's fine to disclose it. Going to roundabout away and hinting at the person being in the game is just stupid--it's like thinking that using "[redacted]" means you found a really smart loophole to talk about ongoing games. Why on Earth is it a problem to disclose someone's "overview" opinion on Empire?

And for someone who keeps describing Tierce as a good player, your condescension is rather jarring.

I still really really dislike the little disclaimers TIP keeps applying here and there. These "only applicable if you're Town" snippets are useless posturing.


DTMaster: What do you mean about Cabd checking in before post 100? Was it the "I'll give you 5 pages" bit? We've clarified this already; Cabd is good at reading TIP, and we were giving him up to 5 pages to make a decision on that slot.

The main thing that, to me, rang as being really off from TIP was the pointless questions. They're made to look like content; "wow look at all these reactions I'm getting they are so useful". They're not, he's not really making anything from it, but is painting himself as this paragon of Town usefulness while trying to bring others down (see the post in which he wanted us to sign our posts and explain our vote, followed by a version of "what are you doing to be useful to this Town, Jabberwock" or some variation thereof). He was in friendly jokey mode and could have stayed there

while not spamming

, but felt the urge to show his work. This is similar behavior to what he showed in the recently finished Cold Stone Open, and was the main reason Cabd (as MC Maraca) scumread him in that game.

[Natirasha]

The only information I have to give is role-related, and why would I want to give out any of that in the situation that DTMaster didn't actually kill me? There's a difference between full-claiming and claiming an ability that is, for all intents and purposes, worthless.

[morph the cat]

This is similar behavior to what he showed in the recently finished Cold Stone Open, and was the main reason Cabd (as MC Maraca) scumread him in that game.

Furthermore, the other head of MC maraca is the other head of the pumpkin hydra, so we're both here to nail him.

[Purpkin]

Hi

Mara here

and I agree with TIP scum

[morph the cat]

Hi

Mara here

and I agree with TIP scum

Okay guys, no more hesitation. Run the fucker up.

[Purpkin]

Slow down C

TIP is scum, but that doesn't mean we can do stuff without half the player-base not here in thread yet

Lets find his partners and have everyone else view the thread first

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Does this mean I get to post more Umineko jokes?

[TheIrishPope]

@Lady, scum suddenly means null-scum? Do I need to draw a diagram for you?
TOWN ============©=======® SCUM
If I had a scum read on you, you would be the ®
I have a null-scum read on you, therefore you are the ©
@Cabd, why are you posting these? I told you meta won't work here, and the generalisations are best kept inside your mouth.
@Purpkin, wow. This short post must be scum. Thanks for catching up and just letting everyone know you're scum. I'd expect more from you, Mara.
@Jabberwock, there are no broken site rules. What are you on about?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lady, scum suddenly means null-scum? Do I need to draw a diagram for you?
TOWN ============©=======® SCUM
If I had a scum read on you, you would be the ®
I have a null-scum read on you, therefore you are the ©
@Cabd, why are you posting these? I told you meta won't work here, and the generalisations are best kept inside your mouth.
@Purpkin, wow. This short post must be scum. Thanks for catching up and just letting everyone know you're scum. I'd expect more from you, Mara.
@Jabberwock, there are no broken site rules. What are you on about?

Wow, Tierce is right. You are condescending. And wrong. Not a good combination to have, really.

You're arguing against your own point. If you have ANY leaning on me, that's called a READ. It's not a STRONG scum read, but IT IS A READ.

You're fighting a semantic war here, and it's very telling of your alignment this game. Now please

DIE THE DEATH.

[TheIrishPope]

When did I say I didn't have a read?

[Jabberwock]

@Jabberwock, there are no broken site rules. What are you on about?

That you should not have any problem at all saying who it was that said that Empire is a laid-back player, regardless of whether this person is in the game, and that you should not have taken several posts of dodging to come out with how you have this knowledge. You keep addressing minor points to dodge the crux of matters brought up against you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Jabberwock, there are no broken site rules. What are you on about?

That you should not have any problem at all saying who it was that said that Empire is a laid-back player, regardless of whether this person is in the game, and that you should not have taken several posts of dodging to come out with how you have this knowledge.

You keep addressing minor points to dodge the crux of matters brought up against you.

I wanna hear your read on me in light of this. Considering that this has been the story of my entire interactions with him, how does that reflect on your read?

[TheIrishPope]

That would be telling. This person respects his or her privacy.

[Purpkin]

@Purpkin, wow. This short post must be scum. Thanks for catching up and just letting everyone know you're scum. I'd expect more from you, Mara.

NP, now why don't you let us Bus you and make us look even more town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Purpkin, wow. This short post must be scum. Thanks for catching up and just letting everyone know you're scum. I'd expect more from you, Mara.

NP, now why don't you let us Bus you and make us look even more town?

Made this joke already. Welcome to the club, we have jackets.

[Jabberwock]

@DTM:

I had the same knee-jerk reaction to #73 that you had but when I spoke to Tierce about it what she said made perfect sense - it's an easy way to gain towncred as scum and it doesn't take much in the way of competence or experience to post. While I'm here, though, what's your read on LLD (particularly interested here since I think I remember you guys having played with each other a bit in the past when I sifted through ancient meta)?

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Anyway, if I'm scum, then I must be bussing TIP. So let's go ahead and kill his ass dead, and we can have this discussion tomorrow.

If you don't mind, I actually really want to have this discussion now.

I have a few reasons for reading bork as town but one of them involved me agreeing with his #76. I'd read your questions up until that point (and a bit beyond) and I don't really see how any of them would illicit alignment-indicative replies.

For example, I thought your focus in #65 was really weird. The bork/TIP exchange had been decently developed by that point and the bolded just seemed like a pretty small thing to highlight or dig into (personally, I thought TIP's remark there was some throwaway facetious thing). Maybe it's because I'm tired or something but I read over that question and thought about possible responses TIP could have given and I don't really see what TIP could have said that would have given you some insight into his alignment. I have the same problem with #74 too. I just don't really see what the point of those questions were.

Anyway, I know it's probably frustrating to do, but can you walk me through what you were going for there?

(P.S.: I haven't taken a shot at the VN yet, but I wasn't a fan of the Umineko anime personally.)

[Andrius]

VOTE: JABBERWOCK

KILLED ALL MY HOBBITS ;_;
HI TIERCE ITS FINALLY HAPPENING
AND BORK TOO HI FIRST GAME TOGETHER

Okay. First off, since my return to the site, I've never got to actually participate in a RVS. So, I'm happy to have the chance to VOTE: Natirasha.

Now, act two. I got to ask: does anyone else have an ability with text that approximately says "you don't know what this ability does or how to activate it"?

What the hell is this.
Natirasha stahp
Natirasha pls

Oh and No, nothing specifically to those words.

Wow, Nati, I'm betting that's against the rules or something

No.

Wow, Nati, I'm betting that's against the rules or something
For those who do not know me: I am TheIrishPope! You may call me Irish, Pope, TIP, or by any new nickname! Me no like RVS, so I prefer RQS yaaaay
Heey how about we all flavour claim for no reason!
The next one to post will be my victim!

Make the bad man fly mommy!

Vote: TIP

Hi guys. Cabd here. We're honestly not going to bother with having ffery sign, because she and I talk differently enough.

Or you could save us all the trouble and sign your posts!

I agree with Tierce. Succintness is pro-town.

TOWN
Tierce
bork
cabd

SCUM
tip
natirasha

What do you think of the Empire and Tierce combo? Is their nagging a town tell too?

Helpful and informative =/= nagging.

Vote: TIP

Now, you see, I have found that people are scum when they:
Refuse to answer harmless RQS questions from the beginning, or

You really love RQS.
And really love not asking questions to go along with it.
But besides that.
Townreads
Scumreads

Now, you see, I have found that people are scum when they:
Refuse to answer harmless RQS questions from the beginning, or
Quit when the questions start getting serious.
This quite gives me a slight Town read on Purpkin at best, although, I do need to see Mara posting.
Meta doesn't work. I'm changing my play.

Do not make sweeping generalisations of my play.

you change your playstyle so much
you don't even drop a "hi saki <3"?

I find that very hard to believe

Can you explain your relationship with TIP.
How does him not saying Hi affect your read of him?

@Saki, I'd get nagged by Tierce. I can't risk that.

Explain this please.

LLD is rubbing me wrong so far; her questions are really banal.

Can you go into that a little more?
The banal part, that is.

Silly Lady thinks she's scary.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Saki Town
TIP read pending on Saki responses
borkdra town
jabberwock town

borktown.

I'm cabd and I approve this fferypost 120%

ffery
this is concise
and amazing

fferytown

Don't really like daemon's interactions with tip.
Seems very scumreading on TIP but not voting.
Idk rubs me the wrong way.

Add into scumpile for now.

Liked his piece on jabberwock though.

DTM IS IN THIS GAME TOO? YES
YES YES YES YES YES

How the hell are you reading TIPtown so damn clear DTM.
And don't say meta.
Because this is a no-fly zone.

Vote Jabberwock for the problems
Daykill Natirasha for the Noise
Personal Note Saki for later.

No
Yes
whatever

Natirasha's #138 was town-ish. Not crazy as daykills this early aren't town or likely but.
Its a bit.

DTMaster will you marry me

PS: I don't know if this matters, but I believe in this situation, it does behoove me to VOTE: DTMaster.

Why.
This vote makes no sense.
How does the daykill affect your read on your shooter?


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ATTN: Various games/people/mods

I have LIMITED ACCESS to el internet for the next few days, so only expect to see me on at night. This will go through the weekend, and potentially through the goddamn week depending on how shitty things get at home and/or if the world will let me return to Spokanistan before the 9th. I would rather not discuss why these things are happening so let's just call it MEDICAL ISSUES and leave it at that. If you need me, you know how to reach me.

That is all.

-Andy

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TOWN
jabberwock
purpkin
ffcabdy
saki
dtm <--- pending questions too

???
OIL TYCOONS
PROHAWKE
SAKURA HANA

SCUM
tip
natirasha <--- moving towards feeling better

[TheIrishPope]

That was probably hammer or something if the dayvig doesn't stop day/is fake. Look into Purpkin, I know Town Mara would never say that, especially in only three lines to get me lynched easily and quickly. My Town flip will confirm Mara scum, good luck and have fun.

[Jabberwock]

That would be telling. This person respects his or her privacy.

Yeah, this person who is in this game can't probably bear to let others know that this person thinks Empire is a laid-back player. I know, it's a terrible, weighty knowledge to have!

This

still

does not explain why you spent several posts dodging even saying that "someone undisclosed told me Empire is a laid-back player" when asked

where does this knowledge came from

. You kept beating back the subject by asking Empire to describe himself and telling us it was just an "overview" and that you have no real "knowledge" of Empire.

Why

were you not upfront on this matter when asked a direct question? You're trying to dodge the hell out of anything relevant you're asked.


PEdit: HI ANDY YOUR HOBBITS ARE ALL DEAD AND YOUR DICE MATH STILL SUCKS