Newbie 1447 (Game Over)

[Guyett]

I know I'm not a shining light of super town play (both Bulba and GM can testify to that) but as a SE in a newbie game is this really the best way to teach newbies?

If I had both the patience and the time to mentally kick TIT in the ass so hard that he'd be choking on dark meat, no.

But, you really ought to consider my constraints and my absolute lack of patience or empathy for woefully erroneous people.

You ought to consider that this is a newbie game with NEW people that might not be as capable as others on here. If you have time constraints replace out. YOU NEED TO LEARN A LESSON FROM THIS NOT THE NEWER PLAYERS!!!

[Guyett]

@Aptil he plays lots of gambits... I have yet to see some decent play from him in any game I've played with him.

[aptil]

He messes up the game for town, that is all he does.

[Guyett]

I will give him one last chance to replace out.

[Wake1]

Your recent play has basically given a big FUCK YOU to your post here. I've highlighted a relevant point...

Don't make a post like this if you don't want to teach properly. Especially don't go around calling new players crappy because they attack you.
Fuck sake this is annoying me. Please do not /in as a SE in the newbie queue if you have no interest in playing properly

Hey. my patience isn't unlimited. I'm not going to respond well if I have to respond to a shrieking psycho who screams "SCUM!" "SCUM!" at every little word I say. It's goddamned stupid. If I had the time and enough blood sugar, I'd deal with it, but taking this route will be far more satisfying once I flip. And don't even think this whole thing is some fantastic gambit to make me look 100% bad-Town as Scum. You'd better cast your vote soon, Guyett.

Wake does this all the time. He claimed town tracker in an close setup which helped the mafia more than it helped town. It was one of the main reason we lost that game. I have more on this but i cannot comment on ongoing games.

Wrong. If that game is closed, post a thread and I'll thoroughly refute you there.

I know I'm not a shining light of super town play (both Bulba and GM can testify to that) but as a SE in a newbie game is this really the best way to teach newbies?

If I had both the patience and the time to mentally kick TIT in the ass so hard that he'd be choking on dark meat, no.

But, you really ought to consider my constraints and my absolute lack of patience or empathy for woefully erroneous people.

You ought to consider that this is a newbie game with NEW people that might not be as capable as others on here. If you have time constraints replace out. YOU NEED TO LEARN A LESSON FROM THIS NOT THE NEWER PLAYERS!!!

Nope, but I did anticipate your backwards thinking as well. You don't give a crap about my reasons, so I'm not going to much care for your opinions, either. If you're trying to teach people how to shoot a target with a BB gun, and some young idiot keeps shooting at you,

are you going to have any patience for that

? Oh hell no. I'd fly on that brat like a raptor on a plump guinea pig, and teach the kiddies the value of self-defense.

[Wake1]

He messes up the game for town, that is all he does.

Although you're wrong, you have that right to an opinion.

I will give him one last chance to replace out.

I'm not replacing out.

[Zaicon]

Enough already. Either play the game as it's meant to be played or request replacement. Any more personal arguing or other disruptive behavior from anyone will result in a modkill.

[aptil]

I am on mobile, so can't link it . But please see in little italy- completed games- lucky <insert cool name here> game . You will see what i am talking about .

[Guyett]

VOTE: Wake

[Guyett]

Hammer
now get out

[Wake1]

Aptil, Zaicon already warned against the personal crap, so knock it off.

My issue is with TIT's refusal to back off, be civil, and be reasonable.

There's only so many times I'll be spat on before I do something neat.

That's just how it is, and so I'm going to show everyone the dangers of ardent, zealous paranoia. If you don't want to even try to have an open mind and understand, then I'll go on ahead regardless.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Wake

Hammer
now get out

Good. I can already see that you have a rather closed mind, too. I see I'm not missing anything from this game.

[Guyett]

How do I have a closed mind?

[Wake1]

How do I have a closed mind?

You didn't even try to understand why I did what I did.

There needs to be further explanation on people like TIT who make the game crappy with over-the-top paranoia and tunneling. And, sadly, save for a few no one really called him out on his BS.

People like TIT shoot first and ask questions later. I hate that, and have no patience for it. He basically already had his mind made up about my guilt for bullshit reasons... so how the hell can you even reason against that?

[Guyett]

First of all I think this was another gambit. I called you bluff. regardless you wouldn't replace out and you would likely continue with anti town play so I felt you would be better out of the thread. the first 3 people on your wagon before the self vote will be looked at tomorrow depending on the flip.

we're 7 pages in and the game was crap from over the top paranoia and tunnelling? Really?

I dislike what you have done more than his tunnelling tbh

[Wake1]

One thing I do know no0w is, when insanely busy, stressed, and sleep-deprived...

...only play one game at a time, if that.

[Guyett]

Yes. You should have replaced out of this game instead of trying to teach a lesson to someone you find null. If you found them scummy then maybe you'd have a leg to stand on.

[Wake1]

Then again, I do find him a bit Scummy, because that kind of narrow-mindedness I doubt could be faked. I've had more than enough occassions of Scum behaving in such a manner on purpose.

[Guyett]

Post your reads while you still can

[Wake1]

TIT is null-scummy. And stubborn/reckless.

Goodmorning, well, she's acting a bit as I would as Town. I know that when I'm Scum I'm incredibly good at blending in and appearing helpful and sure of myself. Just be careful.

As for you... I'm not sure. You appear level-headed, but Scum can mimic that as well.

[Guyett]

Gm is an ic... thats her normal ic play

[sharksword2]

Wake i don't get it why would you vote for yourself

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ wake -I almost tempted to lynch you wake bc your anti town behavior is hurting the town and I have no reason to believe that it will be destructive to the town later in the game ...plus you almost double dared me to lynch you. The problem is that Im not into policy lynching and Im pretty sure you are town ( I think TIT is prob town as well).


I doubt that scum would make such risky moves/actions. Still you said that you like to take risky gambits so I might have to think this over a bit more...

[Guyett]

Wake has been hammered into oblivion

[sharksword2]

I don't think lynching him was the best option.For all we know he was town and we should have let him be replaced.