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In post 146, FourTrouble wrote:Selkies, I've played with you guys before, right? I remember your name (ffery and orci both), although it might have been from reading your games. I can't remember exactly. That said, I do remember your "chaotic" style and I remember liking it, but it felt much more purposeful back then. I think that's the difference I'm noting here.

I don't remember you from a Selkies game, but there have only been about 4 I think. I scanned your list of threads and the only game I played is HunterxHunterx. Were you in that game? I don't remember you. I was in the Squared hydra, but had to cut my usual amount of posting way back because buldermar was pissing people off with his posting rate/style.

I get comments that my early to mid day 1 is low-content and high volume, but I get useful stuff for reads from the interactions.

I think you can cut out pages 2-5 and we'd have just as much information as we have now. I'm not saying it was all useless, maybe there is something there, but personally I find other sorts of posts more useful.

What have you learned from those pages that I'm missing?

katsuki is town, foutrouble is town, mafiassk is maybe town, selkies is scum

cabd maybe town

Oh right, HunterxHunter. I was in a hydra with F-16 for that game. I really liked buldermar's posting actually, lol.

In post 152, zMuffinMan wrote:katsuki is town, foutrouble is town, mafiassk is maybe town, selkies is scum

I'm sad, muffin. I don't even get a shoutout?

p-edit: Yay

In post 151, FourTrouble wrote:I think you can cut out pages 2-5 and we'd have just as much information as we have now. I'm not saying it was all useless, maybe there is something there, but personally I find other sorts of posts more useful.

What have you learned from those pages that I'm missing?

I'll answer this question later.

In post 152, zMuffinMan wrote:katsuki is town, foutrouble is town, mafiassk is maybe town, selkies is scum

Muffin, you're back!

Mind explaining the selkies vote?
And why Katsuki is town?

In post 154, FourTrouble wrote:Oh right, HunterxHunter. I was in a hydra with F-16 for that game. I really liked buldermar's posting actually, lol.

Carbon Fiber. Hi.

zMuffin: Why does the analysis on Katsuki cut the other way?

In post 147, FourTrouble wrote:

In post 144, Selkies wrote:It scares me to be thinking this so early, but SSK looks pretty town.

I agree.

For instance,fourtrouble, it's easy for you to come in here and say "I agree", but getting a good solid read 1 hour into the game was a result of that aggressive RVS phrase.

Pedit: oh look a new challenger approaches

VOTE: muffin

In post 160, Selkies wrote:

In post 147, FourTrouble wrote:

In post 144, Selkies wrote:It scares me to be thinking this so early, but SSK looks pretty town.

I agree.

For instance,fourtrouble, it's easy for you to come in here and say "I agree", but getting a good solid read 1 hour into the game was a result of that aggressive RVS phrase.

Pedit: oh look a new challenger approaches

VOTE: muffin

A muffin vote? How is a muffin scummier than a katsuki?

because i actually agree with katsuki's sentiments towards rule 6 and I don't think it's scummy in and of itself.

also muffin is actually here and i assume he wants to talk to me!

you're thinking about things in a one-dimensional manner

katsuki-scum sees a rule that punishes good scum play, in a game with daytalk, and you think katsuki-scum expresses her dislike for a rule that punishes scum in the game thread rather than in private?

sure, it's possible i guess, if katsuki is dumb, but the more likely scenario is katsuki town who genuinely thinks the rule is dumb (or if you're looking at it from a completely objective pov, it's at least something katsuki would do as either alignment so it's a null point)

move on

In post 152, zMuffinMan wrote:katsuki is town, foutrouble is town, mafiassk is maybe town, selkies is scum

It's not nice to mess with a meta player this way. :/

In post 163, zMuffinMan wrote:you're thinking about things in a one-dimensional manner

katsuki-scum sees a rule that punishes good scum play, in a game with daytalk, and you think katsuki-scum expresses her dislike for a rule that punishes scum in the game thread rather than in private?

sure, it's possible i guess, if katsuki is dumb, but the more likely scenario is katsuki town who genuinely thinks the rule is dumb (or if you're looking at it from a completely objective pov, it's at least something katsuki would do as either alignment so it's a null point)

move on

Bah. Fine. Your logic makes sense.

Moving back to selkies then.
VOTE: Selkies

Wait. zMuffin, why is your vote on selkies?

Also Nat, I will make sure you do get a page-top.

In post 145, MafiaSSK wrote:

In post 143, Selkies wrote:That's not relevant. Your argument was that I am scum because I'm considering who is and isn't a easy lynch. Ergo, whether you are an easy lynch or not is irrelevant to that argument. Which is why I said that you dropped that line of reasoning.

Which still leaves the question of why considering people easy or hard lynches is scummy :/

Eh. I guess it does get a bit WIFOM-y, because I guess there are some advantages for town looking at things like that.

keep going, because this response sucked.

In post 169, Selkies wrote:

In post 145, MafiaSSK wrote:

In post 143, Selkies wrote:That's not relevant. Your argument was that I am scum because I'm considering who is and isn't a easy lynch. Ergo, whether you are an easy lynch or not is irrelevant to that argument. Which is why I said that you dropped that line of reasoning.

Which still leaves the question of why considering people easy or hard lynches is scummy :/

Eh. I guess it does get a bit WIFOM-y, because I guess there are some advantages for town looking at things like that.

keep going, because this response sucked.

So like there are not only the advantages that FourDude was talking about, but the advantages that I were thinking about were that town could think like scum to see who scum would try easylynch and then try and prevent that from happening. You can see where it gets wifom-y.

Ok

So why am I scum, then?

In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?

Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.

zMuffin, Yes. Your analysis is just WIFOM ("it's too scummy so therefore Katsuki must be town"). I disagree. The main point here is that the critique is more likely to occur to scum than town. Where they post it -- the game thread or privately -- is WIFOM. The fact that someone reads the rule and thinks its bad because it punishes scum -- that's something that scum are more likely to think than town, regardless of how you try to spin the whole posting it in the thread part (which is WIFOM).

In post 172, MafiaSSK wrote:

In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?

Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.

This reminds me of the good old days.