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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:55 pm

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I've never been great at reading Bro. I kinda want to start a chamber wagon because this feels different than the chamber I've played with (town each time)
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:55 pm

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In post 148, chamber wrote:
In post 142, Malakittens wrote:He's talking to me if it's his last two posts you are referring too.
I was talking to mollie and was asking if it was to bro >_>.
I am not sure how you are confused since I addressed bro by name at the start of my post!
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:58 pm

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In post 151, bazinga wrote:
In post 148, chamber wrote:
In post 142, Malakittens wrote:He's talking to me if it's his last two posts you are referring too.
I was talking to mollie and was asking if it was to bro >_>.
I am not sure how you are confused since I addressed bro by name at the start of my post!
Because I was dumb and read bro in a generic usage of the word. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bro


This is me actually being invested in a game notscience. IE: town me. You've only seen lazy town me before I'm guessing.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:59 pm

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In post 150, notscience wrote:I've never been great at reading Bro. I kinda want to start a chamber wagon because this feels different than the chamber I've played with (town each time)
I am getting there but scumbro is uber scary but I might go with chamber cos yeah he is being weird

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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:00 pm

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VOTE: Broseidon
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:01 pm

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I object to that classification of me.

Says the guy who blacked out last Friday...

hmm...

pedit: What's wrong about the fact that Mala asked a bad question asking for what should have been an otherwise obvious qualification on an RVS vote, and then her backing it up and misrepping my position relative to that?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:01 pm

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:01 pm

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In post 152, chamber wrote:
In post 151, bazinga wrote:
In post 148, chamber wrote:
In post 142, Malakittens wrote:He's talking to me if it's his last two posts you are referring too.
I was talking to mollie and was asking if it was to bro >_>.
I am not sure how you are confused since I addressed bro by name at the start of my post!
Because I was dumb and read bro in a generic usage of the word. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bro


This is me actually being invested in a game notscience. IE: town me. You've only seen lazy town me before I'm guessing.
okay but you used the same word with the exact same spelling but were confused when I used it? that doesn't make sense
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:03 pm

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you used up all of your facepalms in sabotage don't even
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:04 pm

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hydra-ing with bert is like an alice and wonderland experience I love him
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:09 pm

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In post 157, bazinga wrote:okay but you used the same word with the exact same spelling but were confused when I used it? that doesn't make sense

Are you actually being serious here?

I read things and process their meaning prior to writing responses, therefore wasn't thinking of the words but their processed meaning when writing what I wrote.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:14 pm

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In post 160, chamber wrote:
In post 157, bazinga wrote:okay but you used the same word with the exact same spelling but were confused when I used it? that doesn't make sense

Are you actually being serious here?

I read things and process their meaning prior to writing responses, therefore wasn't thinking of the words but their processed meaning when writing what I wrote.
are you being serious?

since when has the meaning of a word been processed before processing the word itself? who does that? you don't even know what you are processing

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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:20 pm

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I'm just going to ignore you.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:40 pm

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okay?

I mean I am having a hard time with wondering if this is a collision of worldviews or if you are scum.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:43 pm

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In post 110, Zdenek wrote:
In post 108, Medea the Alien wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5283668

Reminds me completely of Hanzo. (HP was town, fwiw)
Are you just talking about their takes on hydras?
That and the general attitude towards them re being willing to vote them in lieu of anything else from the get-go. It was more a "this is a case that shows that this is not specifically something that only scum does and so because of this past case I am treating it as null"
In post 131, Zdenek wrote:So you aren't bothered by the fact that Medea gave an early, unjustified, town read on Bazinga, thinking that it was Mollie posting. Hasn't explained the town read, despite people asking about it, and hasn't commented on the fact that it wasn't even Mollie posting at the time?
I realize that this game is moving somewhat fast, but just because my phoneposting doesn't touch your favorite questions doesn't mean they won't be answered in good time. But since we're on the topic, why don't you tell me; how many posts from a user does it take to have a townread, at the minimum? One? Ten? Twenty? 100? Where's the bar set?

As far as it being the other head posting, if anything that strengthens the read. If he'll forgive the statement, Bert's recent scumplay has been so utterly shit that I can't see him rocking off these terrible games and leaping into the forefront here, going as far to playfully impersonate the other head. Mollie OTOH is crafty enough as scum that she'd be sending out "mebbe X drew scum" reads on players, and using her "perfect meta" to drive lynches that way. She's not. She's town.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:48 pm

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Mala I'm sad you didn't have PTSD flashes from my RVS post.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:49 pm

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In post 163, bazinga wrote:okay?

I mean I am having a hard time with wondering if this is a collision of worldviews or if you are scum.
I feel like I'm being trolled, so the former if you've been serious the whole time.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:54 pm

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In post 166, chamber wrote:
In post 163, bazinga wrote:okay?

I mean I am having a hard time with wondering if this is a collision of worldviews or if you are scum.
I feel like I'm being trolled, so the former if you've been serious the whole time.
well I am always kind of trolly! but I was being serious did you not see my serious face

thoughts on bro?
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:55 pm

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In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote:how many posts from a user does it take to have a townread, at the minimum? One? Ten? Twenty? 100? Where's the bar set?
It's not a number of posts thing. It's a quality of the explanation thing.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:57 pm

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In post 168, Zdenek wrote:
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote:how many posts from a user does it take to have a townread, at the minimum? One? Ten? Twenty? 100? Where's the bar set?
It's not a number of posts thing. It's a quality of the explanation thing.
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote: As far as it being the other head posting, if anything that strengthens the read. If he'll forgive the statement, Bert's recent scumplay has been so utterly shit that I can't see him rocking off these terrible games and leaping into the forefront here, going as far to playfully impersonate the other head. Mollie OTOH is crafty enough as scum that she'd be sending out "mebbe X drew scum" reads on players, and using her "perfect meta" to drive lynches that way. She's not. She's town.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:57 pm

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In post 82, Malakittens wrote: First you voted lazy, imo. Second, you came into this game knowing there was hydra's. I'm kinda interested to see if you have had this hydra hate in prior games of yours or if it's just a new thing. Third, I was townreading that hydra at the time so it felt off.

I just hated the fact you singled that hydra out.
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I am reading that my vote was stupid, to you, because you did not like it. You did not like it because, 1)you felt it was lazy, 2)You were town reading the hydra i voted for at the time. 3) I came into this game knowing there were hydras.

I believe reasons 1 and 2 are matter of opinion. However, reason 3 is an assumption of knowledge. In reality i did not know there was any hydras in this game before i joined. I am aware and have been aware since i voted for bazinga that there are multiple hydras in this game.

I view hydras that do not sign there posts as intentionally being confusing. In my experience, Many hydras do that. Thus, i do not like hydras.
In post 91, Osseus pseudotripodis wrote:
Let's ignore the fact that there are 6 hydras for a moment. What does you not liking hydras have anything to do with lynching scum? You say "I don't like hydras I'm gonna vote for them heyyay!!!" What does that say about your goals in the game. Are you actually looking for scum? Or were you hoping you could parlay your "hate" of hydras into...REASONS?? What makes your reason so bad, actually so WRONG, is that a hydra slot has nothing to do with being scum. All the hydras were hydras well before they ever got their role PM. If your "hate" is not going to net us scum, then it has no place here.

@Osseus pseudotripodis,
Valid points. However, hate is not the appropriate word to use when attempting to illustrate my feelings on hydras. Additionally, while your emotional retailing of the thought process and reasoning by my vote can be viewed as entertaining, it does not impress me. I scumread subtle misrepresentations of character.

I agree that merely being a hydra does not translate into being scum. I did not say it did either. When i find someone scummy to vote for I will do that in the meantime I am fine with lynching Bazinga as a last resort. I do not like hydras because they can be confusing. I would have been more inclined to simply unvote but, Bazinga is not signing posts and imitating mollie's behavior.

@notscience,
Do you agree that the act of reaction testing is a null tell?
In post 100, Zdenek wrote:
In post 99, Osseus pseudotripodis wrote:For those of us without glasses, clear it up anyway please.
Maybe later.
Do you really think that it's such a strange desire?

@Zdenek,
I do not see any town motivation in refusing to provide reasoning on why you would like a competing wagon between two people. I dd not see much scum motivation in that either. It is decidedly anti-town.
In post 134, Malakittens wrote:I really don't give a crap that he voted for a hydra. it's the reason why he voted for the hydra. It was lazy as fuck. I know Hanzo was talking to the hydra, but Bazinga wasn't the only hydra in Page 1 to post. Singling Bazinga out while to me was being obv town was a REALLY bad vote.
@Malakittens,
This is in reality a false statement. Or atleast a misleading one. I quoted you in this post already giving two reasons that have nothing to do with why I voted. Yet you here you attempt to seperate your 3 reasons that explain why my vote is stupid into 1 reason and 2 general statements.

UNVOTE: Bazinga
VOTE: Malakittens

I am currently scumreading Malakittens and seeing things the way I present them. If anyone thinks I am wrong in my thinking could you attempt to help me see my error?
In post 150, notscience wrote:I've never been great at reading Bro. I kinda want to start a chamber wagon because this feels different than the chamber I've played with (town each time)

@notscience,
I cannot support a lynch based on meta. It is my hope that everyone will remember this when i do not vote for the lynch of players who's case against them is built on meta.
In post 163, bazinga wrote:okay?

I mean I am having a hard time with wondering if this is a collision of worldviews or if you are scum.

@Bazinga,
It seems to me that your intent is to establish a read based on Chambers misinterpretation of the word bro and who it was aimed at. Is that your intent?

If the Bert head is going to do all of the scumhunting oriented posts could you two please start signing your posts.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:57 pm

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In post 150, notscience wrote:I kinda want to start a chamber wagon because this feels different than the chamber I've played with (town each time)
you're fond of starting wagons - are you waffling, or else why not start your own wagon on chamber then??
In post 152, chamber wrote:This is me actually being invested in a game notscience. IE: town me. You've only seen lazy town me before I'm guessing.
This is abysmal. Lazy is not alignment indicative. Are you asking us not to use notscience's town meta of you?? What do you have to hide??
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote:If he'll forgive the statement, Bert's recent scumplayhas been so utterly shit that I can't see him rocking off these terrible games and leaping into the forefront here, going as far to playfully impersonate the other head.
Yep, Scumplay AND townplay have been equally bad in the past completed recent games.
In post 125, Malakittens wrote:Mollie why are you being so passive?

I'm not sure how I felt about Zdenek's wagon comment. I gotta sleep on that.
"I'm not sure I felt, I gotta sleep on that" also constitutes passiveness! Tell me, how was Mollie being passive, judging from a few posts upon her entrance?
In post 141, BROseidon wrote:And mollie, I think the only time you've ever town read me from the start of a game was when I was in hydra.
What motivated you to say this and use this as a defense?
In post 168, Zdenek wrote:It's not a number of posts thing. It's a quality of the explanation thing.
OK...what happen to be your takes on people not named Medea or Hanzo?
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:58 pm

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In post 168, Zdenek wrote:
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote:how many posts from a user does it take to have a townread, at the minimum? One? Ten? Twenty? 100? Where's the bar set?
It's not a number of posts thing. It's a quality of the explanation thing.
I find this funny when you are unwilling to give explanations for your reads!
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:00 pm

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In post 169, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 168, Zdenek wrote:
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote:how many posts from a user does it take to have a townread, at the minimum? One? Ten? Twenty? 100? Where's the bar set?
It's not a number of posts thing. It's a quality of the explanation thing.
In post 164, Medea the Alien wrote: As far as it being the other head posting, if anything that strengthens the read. If he'll forgive the statement, Bert's recent scumplay has been so utterly shit that I can't see him rocking off these terrible games and leaping into the forefront here, going as far to playfully impersonate the other head. Mollie OTOH is crafty enough as scum that she'd be sending out "mebbe X drew scum" reads on players, and using her "perfect meta" to drive lynches that way. She's not. She's town.
Here you are, then.
What scum games of Bert's are you referring to?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:02 pm

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In post 170, Hanzo_5 wrote:I view hydras that do not sign there posts as intentionally being confusing. In my experience, Many hydras do that. Thus, i do not like hydras.
I think part of this stems from different ways of looking at hydrae. Do you prefer to think of it as one player one slot, or do you prefer to think of it as two players who happen to be lovers and limited to one vote? That shapes how you approach hydrae in general, so I'm curious to hear your answer.
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