↑Concrete Angels wrote:I know you said you don't see the point in explaining your town read on Cat. I also get that it may be unconventional. However, I do feel that enough people have asked and enough people are interested - myself included - that you should just tell us. It would help me understand you better, give me insight into what you are thinking, and that would help me to read you better. Is that not a good enough reason to share your thoughts?
People say stuff like this, and then do nothing with the info.
Tell you what though - get two additional people to say they'll "get a read off Thor" if i reveal the info and then I'll do so immediately.
I expect to then be massively underwhelmed and mostly get to listen to people noting that it is a shallow/thin read.
↑Concrete Angels wrote:Aaaand...... you've been consistently posting elsewhere.
Also I thought the derp posts were made by bella and not hiplop, but either way @Cataphant: your issue with us is that we are aggresive (or at least me), which is more of a playstyle issue than anything.
Also Re:Davsto > I have a scumread there and i thought he was trying to argue semantics to prepare for a scumread, that's why i called it a stretch, i did not see it in the way you saw it.
↑Concrete Angels wrote:..... you've been consistently posting elsewhere.
So... yeah. I'm very happy with my vote now.
I'm not sure I have posted properly on here any Friday evening and hardly ever on a Saturday.
You obviously looked into my games, and yet you haven't even read what I've posted in them.
You claim I posted here Thursday, when the time I posted here first was on Friday morning while at work, where I then had small amount of activity in the day on a select amount of threads threads (Average of about 2/3 posts a thread).
So I suggest if you are going to use this as an excuse, 1 - You learn my time zone and 2 - you actually learn my activity patterns.
For the rest who say that this is a valid argument, explain how and explain your scum read further.
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↑Concrete Angels wrote:Thor didn't even explain his read on davsto before she tried to turn everything he said into something scummy. In the end, he came out looking way more town than she did.
In my mind, if you really trust another player's skill to read a person better than yourself enough to sheep them, wouldn't you want to find out what they are seeing? She hasn't interacted with him at all. Instead, she's commented peripherally about how he's town and that's why she's sheeping him.
There's zero concern from her about Thor's stance or alignment at all. That's pretty incongruent.
↑Concrete Angels wrote:There's zero concern from her about Thor's stance or alignment at all. That's pretty incongruent.
Do you usually have concerns on people you're townreading?
On page 1 or 2.... uh... yes. First of all, at the time you "sheeped", there was no reason to be townreading Thor. It was clearly an arbitrary selection. Secondly, are you so sure about your townread on him that you would not question it at all and follow him blindly?
↑Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:Considering he asked you why you think they are town, have you considered that maybe he doesn't think they're town?
That has no bearing in any way, shape, or form to my read.
Of course he either does, or will claim, to not town read them - it doesn't matter.
↑farside22 wrote:I see someone trying to understand your point and I see his frustrations about your town read. I can see why he thought it was quick and questionable.
You do?
The only reason he tried to understand me was I pointed out that he was unevenly applying an issue to Sakura and not to me or himself. It was only then that he seemed to give a hang for understanding me, and I don't really get frustration from him either.
I can agree it could be read a squick and questionable - would have felt better if that had been his first read though...also, not really buying into caring about a quick and questionable town read on Day 1.
Can you back up this thought of yours?
It feels very weak.
↑farside22 wrote:What do you think of haca following you?
That it is in line with my general expectations of her - does it seem out of line for her play in your opinion?
Why?
Your only reason to seems to be based off a scum read of Sakura.
Most people find my reason's weak. You won't be the first and sure as shit won't be the last.
Why were you town reading a spot on page one?
Can you say they were strong?
I just do what I feel when I read things, maybe I should stop that but I see scum stubble more when pushed then town.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
↑Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:I played with him in Disney. He dicked around but that was after farside called him conftown when he really wasn't and even then this feels much more over the top than there.
↑Concrete Angels wrote:..... you've been consistently posting elsewhere.
So... yeah. I'm very happy with my vote now.
I'm not sure I have posted properly on here any Friday evening and hardly ever on a Saturday.
You obviously looked into my games, and yet you haven't even read what I've posted in them.
You claim I posted here Thursday, when the time I posted here first was on Friday morning while at work, where I then had small amount of activity in the day on a select amount of threads threads (Average of about 2/3 posts a thread).
So I suggest if you are going to use this as an excuse, 1 - You learn my time zone and 2 - you actually learn my activity patterns.
For the rest who say that this is a valid argument, explain how and explain your scum read further.
I'm noting this so I can check this later
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
↑Wingback wrote:Thor, I'd like you to explain the Cataphant townread. That was my one hangup about you and I'd like it cleared up.
How is not explaining a soft townred (with reasons given why I'm not) from RVS a "hangup" about me?
↑Vedith wrote:For the rest who say that this is a valid argument, explain how and explain your scum read further.
Ooooh, he calls me out, not by name, but in a general call out.
That's good, I have a collection of gauntlets.
Let's talk;
First off your Saturday/Friday thing is silly - people's date/times are set by them, not other posters. So, probably for however he had the board configured you had posted on Friday. For me, you posted Saturday - but at 4:30am Saturday. I bet that's not what your post indicates - and it doesn't matter.
Second off, his lurking call on you is perfectly valid - when he called you out on it I went and pulled up your post iso and scrolled back through *4 pages* of posts found in other threads than this one. If you were only doing 1-3 in friend's threads, then you have a lot of friends' threads to post in and probably need to replace out of this game to fulfill that massive time obligation elsewhere.
Also, by my accounting, you *did* show aggressive activity elsewhere and not here, so a call that you are lurking in this thread is provable, and, consequently, vote worthy if I find that suspect.
And I do.
If you would like to use your next post or two here inbetween dozens and dozens of posts elsewhere to offer a few reads and look generically towny maybe I'll unvote you.
If you would like to justify why you're ducking this thread compared to others maybe I'll unvote you.
If you would like to explain why this case is unfounded, maybe I'll unvote you.
But as currently stands I want to speed lynch you, and think more people should vote you now, as all you're doing is slappy defense and not scumhunting.
Spoiler: reference for the really unclear responses
↑farside22 wrote:I see someone trying to understand your point and I see his frustrations about your town read. I can see why he thought it was quick and questionable.
You do?
The only reason he tried to understand me was I pointed out that he was unevenly applying an issue to Sakura and not to me or himself. It was only then that he seemed to give a hang for understanding me, and I don't really get frustration from him either.
I can agree it could be read a squick and questionable - would have felt better if that had been his first read though...also, not really buying into caring about a quick and questionable town read on Day 1.
Can you back up this thought of yours?
It feels very weak.
↑farside22 wrote:What do you think of haca following you?
That it is in line with my general expectations of her - does it seem out of line for her play in your opinion?
↑farside22 wrote:Most people find my reason's weak. You won't be the first and sure as Smurf won't be the last.
I will take that as a "no - I cannot back up a read of seeing logic in someone applying reads hypocritically or blindly".
↑farside22 wrote:Why were you town reading a spot on page one?
No.
But I apply my tells equally to all players with only adjustments being made based off playstyle rather than going "oh, wait, *you* did that too, and so did I? Well...um...huzzah!".
So, no, I see no connection.
↑farside22 wrote:I just do what I feel when I read things, maybe I should stop that but I see scum stubble more when pushed then town.
I presume "stubble" means, not facial hair but is in reference to Hepasoihroaij's sheeping?
I really don't follow this answer even with that concept in my head.
If it's about Concrete Angel - then...is it "stumble" Eh, this makes a bit more sense, are you suggesting sloppy play is more common from...town, even though you look to be saying the opposite, though I happily admit to being lost as to this sentence - clarify?
Also - could you address my question to you about Hepasljdaso's playstyle? You seem to have dropped that, unless the last line is about it.
You have muddled everything from the start, taking that child with you from Marrakesh. Don't you realise that Americans dislike having their children stolen?
I didn't notice pistachions callout of Sakura there initially, but you're right. That's a really strange post. Definitely not looking at pistachio very favourably right about now
