Part 2: pages 3-4
In post 52, Sickofit1138 wrote:If you must know.
Zyf: Null-town.
Rask: Null-town
Ranger: Null
DVD: Null
Sad: Null-scum.
Beeboy: Null-scum.
A bunch of reads with no comment. From a person who barely writes anything game-related. You'll forgive me if I don't consider these very seriously.
Also, sudden scumreads on Sad are noted.
In post 53, sad1492 wrote:Uh-huh. Scum reads on me because of only 1 post.
Opinion: Sick is simply sheeping Ranger, his partner. Zyf town.
Foses: not yet anyone. At least for another page
People please, scum reading ANYONE on the first page requires skill.
Probably a hasty opinion but a valuable post. Sad was also in my first newbie so I'll try to use that to read him.
In post 54, Zyf wrote: In post 53, sad1492 wrote:Uh-huh. Scum reads on me because of only 1 post.
Opinion: Sick is simply sheeping Ranger, his partner. Zyf town.
Foses: not yet anyone. At least for another page
People please, scum reading ANYONE on the first page requires skill.
I have to agree–reading sad as scum with one post is a little discomforting.
F-oh-ex, ayale, and dvds all have yet to make meaningful posts, so while I have a suspicion that one poster among us is scum, I hesitate to make pushes for 2 players being scum.
For now:
Null-Town: Rask-although not by much, they do seem to be posting in the interest of the town, and do not appear to have any biases whatsoever.
"any biases whatsoever", ah, language is important and this is a very strong emphasis. Let me pull up 2 posts.
In post 26, Raskolnikov wrote:Liking zyf here. Beeboys response reads fairly relaxed though I don't know how good as scum he is.
How is zyf at the bottom here?
Rodion (may I call you Rodion?) seems to care a lot about zyf - first pointing out his low position in Ranger's bracket list, then putting him on top of his own. That makes Zyf's praise look suspicious to me.
In post 57, Zyf wrote: In post 56, dvds12 wrote:So I have been rereading the fourm and right now everyone is null for me as of the moment, since not alot of discussion has been going on and it has just been kinda chitchatting, have not been able to make out good reads on everyone yet.
Could you perhaps get a read on ranger?
We've been posting more than 'chitchat' and I'm wondering if I'm just being paranoid by reading them as scum.
Awfully pushy.
In post 58, dvds12 wrote:To me all of rangers posts have been more IC related than actual game stuff, so that is why to me I read her as null for now.
Ditto. Ranger seems to be a good IC so far but no actual alignment read from me.
In post 59, Zyf wrote: In post 58, dvds12 wrote:To me all of rangers posts have been more IC related than actual game stuff, so that is why to me I read her as null for now.
Hrm.
What's making you read me as null? Afaik I've been trying to get discussion going.
I don't like people who immediately jump with "But I did this and that, you should townread me!".
In post 64, Zyf wrote:
What about ranger?
And sad? Do you read them as null or do you have a good explanation as to why you think they're scum?
1. Again pushing about opinion on Ranger.
2. Take a look at the last questions. It's an awfully loaded question:
Do you have a null read on them or do you scumread them with a good explanation?
Tsk, tsk, tsk. I don't like that.
In post 66, Zyf wrote: In post 65, beeboy wrote:Sad and Ranger are null because nothing they have done stands out to me.
So then why do you think sad is being read as scum by /both/ ranger and sickofit?
Asking a person X why people A and B both scumread a person L is a pretty bad question. Especially at this stage of game. Especially when the person B (sickofit) made no meaningful posts so far.
What Zyf is trying do to here is: "two people scumread him, come on, you can't have a null read on him". Compare with what I said about his previous post, just above.
In post 69, Zyf wrote: In post 67, beeboy wrote:Because something stands out to them that I am clearly not seeing. (I literally only have cop out answers as these are null reads of mine)
I also want sickofit to explain his read first as I already know Ranger wouldn't commit herself to something she can't explain even as scum.
Yeah definitely agree on making sick explain first
:
Right now it looks like ranger's scum and then sickofit is just agreeing to boost the argument, without a real argument of their own other than omgus, which at this stage could probably been changed.
Appreciating the (apparent) honesty here, so I think I'll move you back to null.
I don't like how arbitrarily you call Ranger and sad (more or less directly) scum and then brush off what sickofit is doing, even if you yourself analyse it as bad.
Bold because it will be important in a second.
In post 74, Raskolnikov wrote:I find it hard to believe town ranger isn't townreading zyf, especially considering how she talks to him in
51 which comes off as treating him town.
The last game I was in with her she was pretty actually apparent scum in that normally she wouldn't be completely misreading the game, assuming my own reads aren't off themselves. This isn't nearly as bad but still weird; I would expect her scumgame to be a lot better after that but then again this is hardly a red flag either. Ehh.
Noted but not much comment at this time - meta and "too obvious" are a load of WIFOM in Newbies.
In post 75, Zyf wrote:
Currently, I'm definitely not reading Fox as scum so I'm going to tentatively say Ranger-Sickofit scum team?
I'd like to hear their reads explained first before I go any furthe
r, but I'm struggling to decide which one I want to lynch...
Sickofit on the other hand is a weaker read for me, it's just they seem to be trying to lead the conversation astray, they don't seem to be interested in giving valuable read explanations,
and they read sad as scum because omgus
...they just seem to be following ranger too closely...
Hrm...
UNVOTE: ranger and
VOTE: sickofit
Also, thanks fox, I'll hopefully see you in a bit.
So Zyf was asking question "why do you think sickofit and Ranger scumread sad", then says twice that he wants sickofit to explain his read, then he jumps to saying "sickofit scumreads sad because omgus".
1. Sickofit never got to explaining his read.
2. You're inconsinstent.
In post 77, Zyf wrote: In post 74, Raskolnikov wrote:I find it hard to believe town ranger isn't townreading zyf, especially considering how she talks to him in
51 which comes off as treating him town.
The last game I was in with her she was pretty actually apparent scum in that normally she wouldn't be completely misreading the game, assuming my own reads aren't off themselves. This isn't nearly as bad but still weird; I would expect her scumgame to be a lot better after that but then again this is hardly a red flag either. Ehh.
Do you think sickofit is following ranger as a scum team and that's why sick also didn't post their explanations?
Also to ranger: Unfortunately, deliberately not sharing your reads sets a precedent for the newbs like myself, so now I'm having difficulty reading sick as town, too. If everyone else follows your strategy, then we're basically toasted because no one can convince anyone else of...well...anything.
OBJECTION! Leading the witness!
In post 79, Zyf wrote: In post 76, Raskolnikov wrote: In post 53, sad1492 wrote:Uh-huh. Scum reads on me because of only 1 post.
Opinion: Sick is simply sheeping Ranger, his partner. Zyf town.
Foses: not yet anyone. At least for another page
People please, scum reading ANYONE on the first page requires skill.
You're arguing against early scumreads and fos and at the same time scumreading sick/ranger as a team?
I see what you're saying, but the difference is sad literally had posted once (on the first page) without any substantial thoughts yet ranger immediately read sad as scum. I think they took offense due to the one post + first page, not the fact that it's RVS rn.
That being said, I like your thinking. I'd like to put you in town.
Updated thoughts:
{Rask}
{...no one}
{beeboy, F o x, sad, Ayale}
{dvds-your lack of interest in getting any thoughts down bothers me, but it could easily be newb caution. Please, the more you put, the better it is for us as a town as a whole}
{Ranger, Sickofit}
Second praising of Rask btw. Also, me and Ayale in the same bracket as beeboy and sad? That's just... wrong. I made like 2 posts at the time and Ayale made none.
In post 84, Zyf wrote:Nice, welcome aboard, Vandit.
Interested mostly on your reads on Rask, Ranger, and sickofit.
Your mafia experience?
Not sad this time? Trying to strengthen general scumread on Ranger and sickofit and townread on Rask?
Note that at this point I'm scumreading Zyf already so I might be prone to tunnelling. Asking about one's strongest reads isn't necessarily scummy... but Zyf keeps rubbing me wrong.
In post 86, Zyf wrote:*Mr. Lonely plays in background*
Whenever beeboy gets back:
Do you still read rask as scum?
Awwwwwwwww, you care so much about how other people view Rask! It's so cute!
In post 87, Zyf wrote:Sick, whenever you get back on, you'd better explain why you read sad as scum.
You already answered that question yourself.
In post 88, Ranger wrote:
Raskolnikov wrote:I find it hard to believe town ranger isn't townreading zyf, especially considering how she talks to him in 51 which comes off as treating him town.
I didn't say anything about not townreading them, now, did I?
Hm, so is Rask pushing people townreading Zyf?
They went to clean the floor after the flood.
Get it? Because you wrote 6 posts in a row?