OK. Soon, I'll get to this game and help y'all out.
Time to get serious.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:37 am
by Ümläüt
Chaos' readlist looks legit to me. (Not to say I agree with anything there in particular, it just looks good for Chaos.)
In post 144, ChaosOmega wrote:BBT - didn't like 35, looked like he wanted to show he was town by his desire to advance the game, but voted a person with a naked vote as their only post and who wasn't the leading wagon without questioning any player...BBT is voting leading wagons and hasn't really contributed anything yet, doesn't move the needle either way for me
I didn't love 35 either, but I think Mick's lack of contribution is made null by his flaking out.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:53 am
by ChaosOmega
I'm gonna word this kinda vague because of site rules.
After I questioned him in 51, I saw that he was posting in another game. After further research, I'm more willing to lean it towards null due to flaking out. Still don't like 35 due to the previous reason, and I still want to hear what BBT thinks of the game.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:38 am
by Lycanfire
this wagon pisses me off
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:42 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
UNVOTE:
Only up to end of page 3 but gaining reads thick and fast!
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:49 am
by Lycanfire
somehow i managed to get more angry by that
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:05 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Alright, I'm caught up!
I have some town reads, some null reads and some scum reads.
Man, I'm so good.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:06 am
by pistachi0n
In post 137, TierShift wrote:Pistachi0n just starts a wagon without any kind of conviction and just lets it fade instead of looking further or getting people to vote with him.
huh?
I voted for him and gave a reason, what more kind of conviction do you need? I never outright tell people "vote for x" because I figure if they thought x was the scummiest, they'd be on them already. I further thought tier going out of his way to townread me was white-knighty.
I have some town reads, some null reads and some scum reads.
Man, I'm so good.
Care to share with the rest of the class?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:37 am
by pistachi0n
Also, notice how flimsy and willing to go with the current Tiershift is--claiming he townreads me and then "I did a reread " when an assertive person votes for me.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:40 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
VOTE: Tier
I'm good with this.
Would also lynch Lycan.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:16 am
by pistachi0n
Why Lycan?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:39 am
by Ümläüt
In post 162, pistachi0n wrote:Also, notice how flimsy and willing to go with the current Tiershift is--claiming he townreads me and then "I did a reread " when an assertive person votes for me.
In post 162, pistachi0n wrote:Also, notice how flimsy and willing to go with the current Tiershift is--claiming he townreads me and then "I did a reread " when an assertive person votes for me.
Who is the assertive person you're talking about?
BlueBloodedToffee
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:01 am
by Ümläüt
You realize Tier was the first vote on your wagon and BBT was the last?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:55 pm
by pistachi0n
I got BBT and TierShift mixed up...I was reading 137 thinking BlueBloodedToffee was writing it. You're right. I'm dumb. I need to re-assess.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:26 pm
by Ümläüt
VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Just sheeped pist's scumread on Tier without even the most cursory sanity-checking. There's no town motivation in that vote.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:05 pm
by Accountant
What do you mean sanity checking
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:26 pm
by Ümläüt
I mean pistachi0n gave reasons and BBT didn't see whether they made any sense at all (which they didn't, they were based on a misread that not even scum would make deliberately) before going along with it.
(And I realize as I'm typing this how I could have been misinterpreted.)
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:26 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
You've made some bad assumptions Umlaut and I'm pretty sure you're town so I don't wanna get into it with you
I'll explain later when I'm on PC. But I'm definitely not sheeping and I'm definitely not voting for Pistachions reasoning.
In post 137, TierShift wrote:Pistachi0n just starts a wagon without any kind of conviction and just lets it fade instead of looking further or getting people to vote with him.
huh?
I voted for him and gave a reason, what more kind of conviction do you need? I never outright tell people "vote for x" because I figure if they thought x was the scummiest, they'd be on them already. I further thought tier going out of his way to townread me was white-knighty.
Fine but you avoided talking about the accountant wagon which was awkward
Why did you feel I was going out of my way to townread you?
I disliked 48 and don't believe it for a second. I further disliked 57 - I have no idea how Lycan got a 'frustrated town read' on Chaos from him merely questioning the vote. Where does the 'frustrated' come from? It just feels like scum forcing reads and I dislike it. I was stunned that nobody had even questioned 57 because that set off serious red flags for me.
I disliked 101 - I don't understand the unvote on Accountant or the reasoning behind it that follows. 128 is similarly as bad, I don't like the vote on Lowell. The voting pattern just doesn't make sense to me. They seem to go with the flow of the game and then as a wagon builds he jumps onto a new one. Could be scum trying to avoid staying on major wagons or it could be town trying to develop reads (though I don't see the latter happening). The votes and reasoning just don't sit well with me at all.
I initially liked your push on Accountant. However, I feel after your first push, Accountant explained herself pretty well and I felt like that should have been the end of the matter. I didn't like how you were justifying the read after the fact (using the light town read she had on Carey to further your read) because I felt the same as Accountant and I feel she explained it pretty well yet you were happy to continue pushing her. 62 is where the push stopped making sense to me. This is the main bulk of the scum read - I really disliked that Accountant push. In saying this, you then suddenly leave Accountant and start a new wagon on my predecessor - what happened to the Accountant read?
After this, I also dislike the vote on Pistachion. I feel good that Pistachion is town and so your vote irks me - especially after initially town reading her and then 're-reading' and deciding you didn't like her after all.