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In post 87, Bory wrote:I don't like voting/ accusing peaple whisout any proofs or indications from my character so I don't want to join RVing.

yeah, but what do you consider "proof". Sure, we dont want to lynch someone for very little reason, but early on in the game i think its ok to basically vote a bit like you are "fos" someone, pressurising them. gut votes early on are fine.

In post 88, Shinobi wrote:I also don’t think there’s a page of the game that people have posted plans, which is also fine.

what do you mean by "plans"?

In post 91, Kokichi Oma wrote:I think he's scum because of the way he went about it

what worries me more is that you are not pushing him.

In post 94, northsidegal wrote:so nothing so far has been enough for you to comment on? what exactly are you waiting for?

are you suspiciois of Bory?

In post 109, Lapsa wrote:because Bora is my scum buddy

please dont do this. if you are town its really unhelpful.
obv if you are scum, go for it!

In post 128, Lapsa wrote:Bory seems to have a "mind of a programmer"

I can relate to:

In post 112, Bory wrote:

In post 111, Sunlit Diamond wrote:
I'm confused about why you responded to that question. It was clearly directed at Lapsa, about you. Can you explain?

I can't read.

that's not alignment indicative though.
just something to consider when reading him

thought the guy was joking?

In post 154, mozamis wrote:

In post 109, Lapsa wrote:because Bora is my scum buddy

please dont do this. if you are town its really unhelpful.
obv if you are scum, go for it!

you would have received a different answer

In post 155, mozamis wrote: thought the guy was joking?

unsure what exactly are you asking here

bory saying he couldnt read

Hmmm...

I agree with 126. It's NAI as far as Nero, but I would argue it applies to at least one player so far, if not multiple. (Admittedly, one could make a case for me using such a statement as well.)

could you be more specific

In post 151, mozamis wrote:

In post 88, Shinobi wrote:I also don’t think there’s a page of the game that people have posted plans, which is also fine.

what do you mean by "plans"?

I was posting this in response to Bory’s second post where he talks about plans.

After rereading I'm 99% sure Komichi just put his foot in his mouth and hasn't figured it out yet.

Shinobi and Nero are town leans.

I haven't seen enough from Lapsa to put him as more than null.

I'm struggling to understand Bory's angle. We're on page 7, surely there's something to comment on by this point?

Impede I am less certain of. On the one hand he looks like he's trying; on the other, his "oh I didn't realize that wasn't helpful" rang hollow for me.

Simple Plan - you're non-playing. Do you have any reads?

While I am mostly down with that readslist, could you go a bit in-depth on your townreads?

In post 158, mozamis wrote:bory saying he couldnt read

yes, I think Bory was joking

In post 148, mozamis wrote:

In post 78, Nero Cain wrote:I think this comes from scum alot. Attacking bad or poor play to make themselves look useful but it serves no purpose in scumhunting. I like my vote.

do you not think it could be annoyed town? To me, he doesnt seem very "blendy", he is right up under your nose.

Why would he be annoyed @ KO? Now I did think about them being scum together and he's annoyed at her for putting a target on her back.

The town has two major responsibilities: find the scum and lynch the scum. With that in mind, please refrain from excessive multi-posting (especially eight multi-posts). It makes it harder to follow the thread of the game and muddies the water. Also, it's downright unpleasant to read the game when it's just a font of unfiltered thought.

I'm willing to lynch Lapsa for claiming scum, joking or otherwise.

Kokichi Oma's deliberate refusal to engage with Sunlit Diamond is scummy and anti-town. Part of lynching the scum is convincing other people of your views - something Kokichi Oma has no demonstrated interest in achieving. Instead he reacts to confrontation and probing with suspicion and accusations. He's very defensive for someone who deliberately baited people for reactions before.

In post 166, Lord Gurgi wrote:Kokichi Oma's deliberate refusal to engage with Sunlit Diamond is scummy and anti-town

Are you not reading or? I explained already.

In post 166, Lord Gurgi wrote:With that in mind, please refrain from excessive multi-posting (especially eight multi-posts).
It makes it harder to follow the thread of the game and muddies the water.
Also, it's downright unpleasant to read the game when it's just a font of unfiltered thought.

unfiltered thoughts are most revealing. sounds like you are against that

In post 167, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 166, Lord Gurgi wrote:Kokichi Oma's deliberate refusal to engage with Sunlit Diamond is scummy and anti-town

Are you not reading or? I explained already.

This is precisely the behavior I was referring to.

In post 168, Lapsa wrote:

In post 166, Lord Gurgi wrote:With that in mind, please refrain from excessive multi-posting (especially eight multi-posts).
It makes it harder to follow the thread of the game and muddies the water.
Also, it's downright unpleasant to read the game when it's just a font of unfiltered thought.

unfiltered thoughts are most revealing. sounds like you are against that

No, it isn't. Posting becomes revealing when players are expected to form cogent arguments, defend positions, and respond to accusations. The freewheeling lunacy that so many of you seem to favor doesn't benefit the town.

VOTE: a simple plan
I think this vote is fine. Several pages have happened and he has only commented on some irrelevant stylistic argument and hasn't seemed to evolve his reads in between way too many days of play.
I would also be open to lynching Bory because of his lack of drive in scumhunting.

@Gurgi - I get that you don't like the spammishness of some of the people posting, which I get, but what do you think of our lurkier posters?

In post 170, Shinobi wrote:@Gurgi - I get that you don't like the spammishness of some of the people posting, which I get, but what do you think of our lurkier posters?

The spammy posting confounds any conclusions we could draw from the lurking.

In post 167, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 166, Lord Gurgi wrote:Kokichi Oma's deliberate refusal to engage with Sunlit Diamond is scummy and anti-town

Are you not reading or? I explained already.

This rings scummy to me. Although I fully recognize I did the same thing in my reactions to Nero. Could just be annoyed town lol.

Townreading Gurgi, Shinobi, Bory, SD. Their scumreading seems genuine. Of course, competent scum would also endeavor to display the same behavior, so time will tell if this will persist.
Null for the most part on everyone else. Working up a more comprehensive readslist as time permits!

In post 171, Lord Gurgi wrote:

In post 170, Shinobi wrote:@Gurgi - I get that you don't like the spammishness of some of the people posting, which I get, but what do you think of our lurkier posters?

The spammy posting confounds any conclusions we could draw from the lurking.

how so?

In post 173, Lapsa wrote:

In post 171, Lord Gurgi wrote:

In post 170, Shinobi wrote:@Gurgi - I get that you don't like the spammishness of some of the people posting, which I get, but what do you think of our lurkier posters?

The spammy posting confounds any conclusions we could draw from the lurking.

how so?

If the game is unpleasant to read, you are introducing an additional, significant variable which affects how much people want to play the game. During the week, when I come home after work, I hardly want to read through a hundred poorly thought out posts. Let me ask you this: How reliable of a read do you think you have from me, whether leaning town or scum, compared to mozamis?