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In post 149, the worst wrote:town can vote yes.

I mean, no, not really?

Let's please not cut this day short again?

Scum can't communicate. So I'd assume they're pushing to only have one of them on a mission, so they won't risk multiple sabotages. If there are multiple scum on a mission, they will be trying to somehow determine which if any of them is sabotaging inthread before night.

I want to look at yesterday's wagon with this in mind.

In post 143, Ausuka wrote:Okay so, I believe Keychain is the most scummy player, by play.

tell me more!

In post 151, Keychain wrote:If there are multiple scum on a mission, they will be trying to somehow determine which if any of them is sabotaging inthread before night.

Which is why you gotta speedhammer

I don't like the way you defended Pine in 27. More specifically, I don't see how town!Keychain forms this view of the game, considering the votes on Pine came in before Pine even voted, and I think this was quite self-evident from the way the game started. 38 reads like you're discrediting me because I basically did the equivalent of RVS voting someone who had posted, which is pretty scummy too. Also, gut.

In post 150, Ausuka wrote:

In post 149, the worst wrote:town can vote yes.

I mean, no, not really?

Stop playing your scum game

In post 154, the worst wrote:

In post 150, Ausuka wrote:

In post 149, the worst wrote:town can vote yes.

I mean, no, not really?

Stop playing your scum game

Maybe you just can't read me

In post 151, Keychain wrote:Scum can't communicate.

Is this in the rules? Legit cant check rn

Sorry nvm

Yup.

In post 2, Mathdino wrote:Spies have 0 factional communication.

Ausuka wrote:I don't like the way you defended Pine in 27. More specifically, I don't see how town!Keychain forms this view of the game, considering the votes on Pine came in before Pine even voted, and I think this was quite self-evident from the way the game started. 38 reads like you're discrediting me because I basically did the equivalent of RVS voting someone who had posted, which is pretty scummy too. Also, gut.

As I said, I messed up the timeline, which is exactly how town!Keychain formed this view of the game.

I wasn't "discrediting" you. I was scumreading you for apparently not having any opinion on the player you voted, which I find is more likely from scum who already know the answer.

It seems you're scumreading me for townreading Pine, and then scumreading me for scumreading you. Also, gut.


I'm happy not sending Ausuka on any more missions, I think there's a good chance she was the scum who saboed.

I don't think Ausuka and Enac are scum together
I don't think Ausuka and Keychain are scum together
I think Ausuka is scum

Any thoughts anyone?

hm
VOTE: nancy, camn, Pine

Ausuka wrote:I don't like the way you defended Pine in 27. More specifically, I don't see how town!Keychain forms this view of the game, considering the votes on Pine came in before Pine even voted, and I think this was quite self-evident from the way the game started. 38 reads like you're discrediting me because I basically did the equivalent of RVS voting someone who had posted, which is pretty scummy too. Also, gut.

As I said, I messed up the timeline, which is exactly how town!Keychain formed this view of the game.[/quote]
I don't get how you can mess up the timeline like that though.

Keychain wrote: I wasn't "discrediting" you. I was scumreading you for apparently not having any opinion on the player you voted, which I find is more likely from scum who already know the answer.

Except you voted for a player who literally hadn't posted up to that point, so that's clearly not the real reason? You criticized me at the time because I voted for a player who had posted in the RVS-like phase whereas you voted for a player who hadn't posted. What happened to that?

Keychain wrote: It seems you're scumreading me for townreading Pine, and then scumreading me for scumreading you.

no.

Keychain wrote:Also, gut.

Sorry for having a gutread, I guess?

Keychain wrote: I'm happy not sending Ausuka on any more missions, I think there's a good chance she was the scum who saboed.

I'm pretty sure literally everyone but me thinks this.

Yeah, probably.

Ausuka wrote: I don't get how you can mess up the timeline like that though.

And I don't get how you could mess up your quote tags like that, yet it happened anyway.

Or more seriously - you said you thought people voting for Pine made him scum. I was townreading him, so I thought it was reasonable they voted him because of that. I didn't consider the state of events as of the time they had posted, because I read it afterwards.

Ausuka wrote:

Keychain wrote: I wasn't "discrediting" you. I was scumreading you for apparently not having any opinion on the player you voted, which I find is more likely from scum who already know the answer.

Except you voted for a player who literally hadn't posted up to that point, so that's clearly not the real reason? You criticized me at the time because I voted for a player who had posted in the RVS-like phase whereas you voted for a player who hadn't posted. What happened to that?

What's the issue here? I explicitly said I voted for a player who hadn't posted, because I was finding most everyone else scummy. Making her town by PoE. I already said this:

In post 38, Keychain wrote:I have no townreads apart from Pine, so I nommed a total unknown instead. You picked someone who had posted.

I assumed you were voting according to reads. That's what I did, anyway.

Ausuka wrote:

Keychain wrote: It seems you're scumreading me for townreading Pine, and then scumreading me for scumreading you.

no.

I defended Pine, then discredited you, and you're bothered by that. It's also known as having a townread and a scumread.

#teamkeychain

keychain why are you townreading pine?

i think ausuka's "pine is scum" thing early could be tmi, i kind of expect newbscum to do nervous distancing stuff early and the logic behind it is backwards enough that it makes sense as a partner read? i was kind of thinking that pine was probably just spewed town but i don't think if ausuka is mafia that he scumreads pine in that way if pine is town and his scumread there hasn't stuck at all which i think it would have if he were town who believed in that read. most of his progressions make no sense tbh and his keychain read i find super difficult to believe when keychain is the only one who has actually been doing anything villagery

i also don't super believe that ausuka's read on me is real? and pine is bad enough that he could maybe have the read he does as town but i think on balance it makes more sense from mafia. 143 feels like ausuka doesn't know how to state a read on me and has fallen back on what other people have said because of that and pine probably wanted to try to mix things up to throw me off? (i lynched his slot day 1 in our last game together where he was mafia and he buddied me.) when i go back over it the way he insta micdropped the scumread i think doesn't happen if he cares about figuring me out? i think that probably balances with the tmi stuff.

also aslan's scumread on me for my pregame post doesn't mean anything i don't think, aslan scumreads me every game on the chance i am mafia so e can say that e caught scum nancy. i actually kinda think it might be town indicative? i don't think scum aslan is stupid enough to scumread me when i'm town

and lol, i kind of want to say that ausuka slipped that i'm town in 30 but i'm not sure if i can actually get away with that one

Ausuka is an alt I'm pretty sure.
I can't remember her main's name...

Well shit. I was inclined to believe the nancy/Camn dynamic was scum/Town, but after that hammer with a sabotage, I'm thinking Camn/Ausuka scumteam, probably with the worst as the third.

So here's what we're doing:

VOTE: Pine, Enac, keychain

Lets us sort keychain, who I'm coming around to a Townread on.

Also 164 looks Townish, reinforcing my read on the nancy/Camn dichotomy.

UNVOTE:
maybe I'm doing the wrong thing.

In post 166, Pine wrote:Well shit. I was inclined to believe the nancy/Camn dynamic was scum/Town, but after that hammer with a sabotage, I'm thinking Camn/Ausuka scumteam, probably with the worst as the third.

So here's what we're doing:

VOTE: Pine, Enac, keychain

Lets us sort keychain, who I'm coming around to a Townread on.

so, the plan is to go with keychain instead of me, and then sabotage the mission, then pin the whole thing on Keychain and say we were distancing? because that's what this looks like to me.

Cool interpretation.

why does townreading me reinforce your scumread on camn? we haven't interacted this game? i don't understand how there is even a dichotomy

In post 166, Pine wrote:but after that hammer with a sabotage

I'd have hammered almost anything those first 2 days. cuz irrelevant, plus chance to grab doublescum.

hi camn

how is everything in the secret lair?

also

how do you feel about pine's read on you

also

how do you feel about my read on ausuka

also

why did you scare off all of the people

i was having fun torturing them