You pop in to cherry pick one non game-related interaction and then defend this shitty choice by saying you aren't really discussing the game because it's boring? Why are
In post 148, Mewtaph wrote:I thought that their thoughts overall (on me and bristep123) leading up to the vote was a bit jarring in some sense so
I was fine with voting there to see how they would respond wrt them looking towards themselves to explain the L-1/L-2 vote philosophy and unvote.
This doesn't track with the timeline. You voted for podoboq
after
he'd already responded to me and explained his philosophy. Why are you saying that was one of your reasons for voting now?
They were looking towards themselves in that process (78 and 79), which is why it was a good point for me to vote them (80) imo. The vote may or may not have caught them surprise, but even if it didn't, having him respond to my vote allows me to potentially get a more tangible/real response as to why he was voting me and indicate that I am around for an exchanged sequence - my problem being that I'm not following my reasoning (83, 85), his reasoning being that he is finding my posting inorganic. But it is convoluted imo to push on somebody to understand their reasoning more when they themselves are voting me for having inorganic thoughts.
In post 148, Mewtaph wrote:I thought that their thoughts overall (on me and bristep123) leading up to the vote was a bit jarring in some sense so
I was fine with voting there to see how they would respond wrt them looking towards themselves to explain the L-1/L-2 vote philosophy and unvote.
This doesn't track with the timeline. You voted for podoboq
after
he'd already responded to me and explained his philosophy. Why are you saying that was one of your reasons for voting now?
They were looking towards themselves in that process (78 and 79), which is why it was a good point for me to vote them (80) imo. The vote may or may not have caught them surprise, but even if it didn't, having him respond to my vote allows me to potentially get a more tangible/real response as to why he was voting me and indicate that I am around for an exchanged sequence - my problem being that I'm not following my reasoning (83, 85), his reasoning being that he is finding my posting inorganic. But it is convoluted imo to push on somebody to understand their reasoning more when they themselves are voting me for having inorganic thoughts.
I'll edit this slightly because it seems hard to follow in its current form.
They were looking towards themselves in that process (78 and 79), which is why it was a good point for me to vote them (80). The vote may or may not have caught them surprise, but even if it didn't, having him respond to my vote allows me to potentially get a more tangible/real response as to why he was voting me.
He is also beginning to post so I'm indicating that I am around for an exchanged sequence. That sequence commences and we discuss thoughts; my problem is that I'm not following their reasoning (implied in 83, 85), and his problem is that he is finding my posting inorganic (his posts showing this and my response to this are clear).
It is convoluted, or unreasonable, in my opinion, to push on somebody to understand their reasoning more when they themselves are voting me for having inorganic thoughts. That's why the purpose of my vote wasn't to push podopoq at that point but to see if he would respond differently in any way to being placed at L-2.
You pop in to cherry pick one non game-related interaction and then defend this shitty choice by saying you aren't really discussing the game because it's boring? Why are
How the fuck did that interaction look possibly game-impacting at the start? Please, be specific.
Hey, I’m actually getting into the game now thanks to posting that so you can buzz off with your outrage.
Anyway, it seemed relevant because at one point mbaki asked Xtoxm’s alignment in the other game, which looked like he was taking an actual interest in the meta information that could be gained.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:17 pm
by mbaki
In post 149, Gamma Emerald wrote:I find the way you phrased things a bit shady, specifically saying Xtoxm continued it the way you did.
I added it on to a post that professed something game related, and he chose to reply to it starting the tangent. IE, why was this a me question and not an Xtoxm question.
Looks overly concerned with looking blameless.
To be concerned about being blameless there would have to be something to be "blamed" for.
at one point mbaki asked Xtoxm’s alignment in the other game
Revisionist history.
Yes, I did guess Xtoxm's alignment in that game... after this post:
In post 119, Xtoxm wrote:What alignment do you think I was in that game
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:18 pm
by mbaki
I have glazed over almost every Mewtaph post this game. Just the way he types I guess.
In post 149, Gamma Emerald wrote:I find the way you phrased things a bit shady, specifically saying Xtoxm continued it the way you did.
I added it on to a post that professed something game related, and he chose to reply to it starting the tangent. IE, why was this a me question and not an Xtoxm question.
Looks overly concerned with looking blameless.
To be concerned about being blameless there would have to be something to be "blamed" for.
at one point mbaki asked Xtoxm’s alignment in the other game
Revisionist history.
Yes, I did guess Xtoxm's alignment in that game... after this post:
In post 119, Xtoxm wrote:What alignment do you think I was in that game
It was a you question because Xtoxm isn’t part of this conversation.
And wow, call it “revisionist history” when I mix up who said something. That actually
worsens
your position as you took no interest in any sort of meta prodding.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’m feeling this bite more at this point VOTE: mbaki
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:33 pm
by mbaki
Lmao.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:22 pm
by Dannflor
Yikes.
In post 154, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyway, it seemed relevant because at one point mbaki asked Xtoxm’s alignment in the other game, which looked like he was taking an actual interest in the meta information that could be gained.
I am actually on board with calling this revisionist history. If you read the exchange you see Xtoxm initiated the discussion about his alignment and asked mbaki what he thought. How does mbaki answering "Scum, I would guess." come close to looking like "he was taking an actual interest in the meta information that could be gained?"
Using something that
didn't actually happen
to support the reason you cherry-picked this interaction does look like revisionist history, because it's not just you mixing up who said what, it's you mixing up the whole chain of events and thinking it means something it doesn't.
despite looking possibly game-impacting at the start
so I was wondering where it was going.
What all this really means is that your only valid reason for post #132 is that the interaction between the two wasn't adding anything to the game. That's self evident. Both players—mbaki more so than Xtoxm—have added more to the game than you have anyways. The extra meaning you're taking from the words of mbaki's explanation is also terrible.
your position as you took no interest in any sort of meta prodding.
His position that what? What is his position? mbaki straight up admitted that the 3 post interaction didn't add to the game, here you are trying to pull something... I'm not even exactly sure what, out of it. This is so desperate, and currently bothering me more than anything else in this game.
UNVOTE: podoboq VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:37 pm
by Xtoxm
Gamma is scumposting
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:55 pm
by mbaki
Indeed.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
lol k
Lynch from my wagon next
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:25 am
by podoboq
In post 160, Dannflor wrote:I am actually on board with calling this revisionist history. If you read the exchange you see Xtoxm initiated the discussion about his alignment and asked mbaki what he thought. How does mbaki answering "Scum, I would guess." come close to looking like "he was taking an actual interest in the meta information that could be gained?"
Using something that didn't actually happen to support the reason you cherry-picked this interaction does look like revisionist history, because it's not just you mixing up who said what, it's you mixing up the whole chain of events and thinking it means something it doesn't.
Would scum openly misrep something so easy to just go back and check? Like, there's no way scum Gamma is intentionally misrepping this, knowing it takes 10 seconds to find out that it's not accurate. Using this as justification that Gamme is scum rather than he just mixed things up seems like a leap.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:34 am
by Thespio
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In post 160, Dannflor wrote:I am actually on board with calling this revisionist history. If you read the exchange you see Xtoxm initiated the discussion about his alignment and asked mbaki what he thought. How does mbaki answering "Scum, I would guess." come close to looking like "he was taking an actual interest in the meta information that could be gained?"
Using something that didn't actually happen to support the reason you cherry-picked this interaction does look like revisionist history, because it's not just you mixing up who said what, it's you mixing up the whole chain of events and thinking it means something it doesn't.
Would scum openly misrep something so easy to just go back and check? Like, there's no way scum Gamma is intentionally misrepping this, knowing it takes 10 seconds to find out that it's not accurate. Using this as justification that Gamme is scum rather than he just mixed things up seems like a leap.
So do you think Gamma Emerald is posting good, townie thoughts?
I am not Dannflor and my gripe with Gamma Emerald is that his full iso is nothing, calling someone else out who's doing nothing, even though that someone did something, finding a weird way to push them on something outright false, said thing gets proven false, and Gamma doubles down and says that's even scummier!
This is not a townie thought process. And now, one person has explicitly agreed with me and another has called Gamma Emerald's posting scumposting, but Gamma's vote remains despite it being disapproved by multiple people. This is after Gamma chose only to comment on the not relevant thing in the first place. He still has not answered why he questioned myself over Xtoxm either even though
Xtoxm is the one who started the "scummy" tangent
.
To reword again because the above reads awkwardly: I don't believe Gamma Emerald read the game and came to the conclusion his current nitpick is how he's going to find scum. It is unviable. He has still not commented on anybody else.
I believe it is most likely he was desperate to distract for some reason, meaning his partner was probably one of the two wagons (Podoboq and Mewtaph, more likely the latter who's wagon is more significant). This is more just a pocket theory than something I'm seriously pushing, though.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 am
by mbaki
Mod, Dannflor is voting for Gamma Emerald as of #160.
Right now I am working from Xtoxm, Lolwagons, and Dannflor as townies. I have waffled mentally a lot between Podoboq and Mewtaph, I do not believe it is theater though so if one is scum and flips there's that at least. bristep123 and Doughboy have not posted that I remember since I became involved in the game.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 166, mbaki wrote:I don't believe Gamma Emerald read the game and came to the conclusion his current nitpick is how he's going to find scum. It is unviable.
This is true. That wasn't what I was thinking when I posted that. Doesn't change the current impact.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 am
by podoboq
In post 166, mbaki wrote:So do you think Gamma Emerald is posting good, townie thoughts?
Good thoughts? Ha, no.
Townie thoughts? Yeah, probably.
I was going to paraphrase how I feel about Gamma, which is that it seems like he lazily came to a bad conclusion and is just sticking to it despite the fact that it's pretty clearly a bad conclusion, but you wrote it better than I could.
In post 166, mbaki wrote:I don't believe Gamma Emerald read the game and came to the conclusion his current nitpick is how he's going to find scum.
I agree. I don't think scum really does that.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:21 am
by bristep123
I'm not feeling the Gamma push, need to keep an eye on that. Especially Xtotm who only said 'Gamma is scumposting' but didn't vote. That's my thought anyway.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:31 am
by Mewtaph
Is there any particular reason why you're willing to comment on the Gamma push here specifically over anything else that has happened in the game? Do you have any sort of stance towards me v LolWagons or me v podopoq?
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:39 am
by podoboq
In post 171, Mewtaph wrote:Is there any particular reason why you're willing to comment on the Gamma push here specifically over anything else that has happened in the game? Do you have any sort of stance towards me v LolWagons or me v podopoq?
This pinged me too.
bristep is very low activity, and has cherry picked a topic to comment on. I would like to know why that topic is relevant to them.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:40 am
by bristep123
Mewtaph : My vote is still on you, so extrapolate from there. I'm not a prolific day one participant, I follow threads because I struggle to read the whole game at this size. Take it for what it is. Or don't I guess.
Podoboq : because it's the current issue going on right now.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:42 am
by LolWagons
In post 170, bristep123 wrote:I'm not feeling the Gamma push, need to keep an eye on that. Especially Xtotm who only said 'Gamma is scumposting' but didn't vote. That's my thought anyway.
Bri’s apathy is a bit annoying but that a fairly Townie thought process
Sorry mew on mobile and am not going to one on one a wall but I haven’t forgot about your response
