In post 139, Brigitte wrote:Of course it can be manipulative without necessity of being townread.
But you seem to be arguing that Enter state of mind was he came in here and was trying to buddy me and get me to vote with him in a manufactured way to manipulate me,
when
I think its more likely he was trying to get a wagon going to get reads out of RVS and that seems way more in line with all of his posts to date
. I think your reasoning falls apart when you take the full context of his posts instead of focusing on 2 posts by themselves that seem odd in that narrow context.
bolded: i mean yeah that's exactly what it looks like to me
i don't really get the transition from insinuating reck is sketchy for not having ai content to townreading him in the context you're suggesting in the italics
Because you are narrowly focused on 2 posts. Read all of his posts. Tell me what his state of mind is when taking all the posts into consideration. If you ignore all the other posts I think you have a reasonable conclusion. Except that is ignoring everything else that contradicts it.
enter: *does a really scummy thing by changing his mind on a read out of nowhere*
people: *vote enter for doing the scummy thing*
enter: but aha you see it is i who is a genius because i
meant
to be scummy
cool okay hey everyone you can ignore the last six pages this is everything right here ^^^
good summary
but is it scummy?
because I'm kind of leaning no at this point
well let's see
either enter is town who purposefully acted scummy to try to get a wagon on themselves
or enter is scum who acted scummy and got caught and is now twisting it to be some (really bad) genius master plan all along
scenario b seems far more likely and even if it's scenario a im pretty comfortable with my vote where it is
enter: *does a really scummy thing by changing his mind on a read out of nowhere*
people: *vote enter for doing the scummy thing*
enter: but aha you see it is i who is a genius because i
meant
to be scummy
cool okay hey everyone you can ignore the last six pages this is everything right here ^^^
"Ouch I got played and now I look dumb pls vote for this guy so I don't feel as bad for voting for lynchbait"
Wow. I'm cranky, sorry about that. I'm gonna go eat bekfast, see you in a bit
either enter is town who purposefully acted scummy to try to get a wagon on themselves
or enter is scum who acted scummy and got caught and is now twisting it to be some (really bad) genius master plan all along
scenario b seems far more likely and even if it's scenario a im pretty comfortable with my vote where it is
he was presenting as wanting to make content before anyone scum read him for it
In post 141, NotMySpamAccount wrote:These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.
last game, as town, you couldn't even find a read for like half of D1, lol. What changed?
I so don't buy this confidence as coming from town!you
Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.
In post 141, NotMySpamAccount wrote:These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.
last game, as town, you couldn't even find a read for like half of D1, lol. What changed?
I so don't buy this confidence as coming from town!you
Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.
You aren't voting me.
And you are pure posture right now.
In post 139, Brigitte wrote:Of course it can be manipulative without necessity of being townread.
But you seem to be arguing that Enter state of mind was he came in here and was trying to buddy me and get me to vote with him in a manufactured way to manipulate me,
when
I think its more likely he was trying to get a wagon going to get reads out of RVS and that seems way more in line with all of his posts to date
. I think your reasoning falls apart when you take the full context of his posts instead of focusing on 2 posts by themselves that seem odd in that narrow context.
bolded: i mean yeah that's exactly what it looks like to me
i don't really get the transition from insinuating reck is sketchy for not having ai content to townreading him in the context you're suggesting in the italics
Because you are narrowly focused on 2 posts. Read all of his posts. Tell me what his state of mind is when taking all the posts into consideration. If you ignore all the other posts I think you have a reasonable conclusion. Except that is ignoring everything else that contradicts it.
this is horse shit.
post 19: enter rvs joke votes brigitte
post 20: enter changes votes to me
post 21: enter makes a contentless joke post
post 23: enter asks for brigitte's alt
post 29: enter pushes brigitte to lynch me
post 31: enter adds reasoning to the case to why brigitte should lynch me
post 34: enter does a complete 180 and now thinks im town, swaps votes to urap2
this continued assertion that MUH CONTEXT will explain the terribad sequence of post 31 to post 34 is BAFFLING
enter: *does a really scummy thing by changing his mind on a read out of nowhere*
people: *vote enter for doing the scummy thing*
enter: but aha you see it is i who is a genius because i
meant
to be scummy
cool okay hey everyone you can ignore the last six pages this is everything right here ^^^
"Ouch I got played and now I look dumb pls vote for this guy so I don't feel as bad for voting for lynchbait"
Wow. I'm cranky, sorry about that. I'm gonna go eat bekfast, see you in a bit
yeah bro, i got played by your INCREDIBLE genius play of.....being scummy as fuck
OK so how many times have you played a mafia game and people post something that's really AI in the first two pages? Dude, I said isn't it weird he hasn't done anything AI in the first two pages? A lot of people hadn't even posted yet. So yes, it's joke reasoning.
And it's also very real prodding and pushing, because I wanted to see if she would bite. A joke reason has been the reason people have jumped on a wagon before.
It's almost like tempting your scum read with Lynch bait is scummy now and that's awkward
ok this finally makes a bit more sense
although i don't think that reck is usually lynchbait but whatever
so what, after brigitte didn't follow you you started townreading her (you were scumreading her later that page tho)
and then rethought whether or not reck was sactually scummy?
In post 141, NotMySpamAccount wrote:These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.
yikes
In post 151, Brigitte wrote:Because you are narrowly focused on 2 posts. Read all of his posts. Tell me what his state of mind is when taking all the posts into consideration. If you ignore all the other posts I think you have a reasonable conclusion. Except that is ignoring everything else that contradicts it.
yes, because those two posts together were bad
i mean i read it again and i can see the narrative that you're pushing (ie that he wanted to form wagons and when you weren't interested in reck he switched to pushing who you were pushing) but i don't feel like it explains everything, namely his random read change on reck
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:55 am
by Enter
In post 164, skitter30 wrote:ok this finally makes a bit more sense
although i don't think that reck is usually lynchbait but whatever
so what, after brigitte didn't follow you you started townreading her (you were scumreading her later that page tho)
and then rethought whether or not reck was sactually scummy?
Kinda. I was screaming her for p much up until recently (I can find exactly what post later) but I usually play by gut until we are out of RVS and there's real things to analyze. I never really had a scum read on reckoner I just wanted to see what I could get her to jump on and what I couldn't. When she made the point about reck, I went back and actually looked at it and it looked kinda townie for reasons I explained later. So I started pushing elsewhere to see if I could get her to jump on that.
In post 141, NotMySpamAccount wrote:These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.
last game, as town, you couldn't even find a read for like half of D1, lol. What changed?
I so don't buy this confidence as coming from town!you
Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.
You aren't voting me.
And you are pure posture right now.
Everything you have posted reads as fake.
I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.
Go read his first like 5 posts in 1915 and 1917 and I think it will be pretty clear to anyone here.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:01 am
by u r a person 2
This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:01 am
by Brigitte
Btw if no one knows what I mean by posturing. Posturing is an act. It is when people pretend to make themselves into something they aren't. You could be posturing with a overinflated case. You could be posturing about your confidence level. The act itself doesn't mean scum. But when all a person is doing is posturing. I go "why is that person just putting up an act the whole time?"
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:02 am
by Enter
Still trying to decide if Reckoner:
1 seriously thinks he caught scum on page 1
2 is pushing cuz he's town and legitimately doesn't know better
2.5 is pushing cuz wagons are good for analysis
3 is gonna try and tunnel me all game so he doesn't have to pay attention and post content
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:03 am
by Brigitte
In post 169, u r a person 2 wrote:This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.
I don't know of this persons meta. But I believe you when you say this isn't how they normally play.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:04 am
by Enter
At first he was town cuz I thought prolly case 2.5 esp considering his immediate vote switch, but since he hasn't seen that people aren't all that interested in me I'm starting to think 1 or 3