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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:29 am
by Wimpy
Datisi, I am deeply sorry if it seemed like I was calling you a cheater, that was not my intention. I don't even consider somebody who breaks a rule is a cheater, people break rules all the time. cheating is something next level.

my interpretation of the rules are obviously different. To me using information from other games is like "As town Mike Hunt always argues" or "as scum, joe mamma usually lurks"

coming in voting somebody because they were scum in another game, is interpreted as a grudge, especially if that person beat you.

So my sincere apologies for implying you cheated or broke any sort of rule.

that said, I still find it incredibly scummy even if to others it is an illogical reason to do so.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:35 am
by Menalque
In post 147, Wimpy wrote:
In post 143, Menalque wrote:
In post 27, Wimpy wrote:
In post 23, Datisi wrote:Maybe y'all should stick to salads :]
VOTE: Datisi
In post 47, Wimpy wrote:It was a serious vote
“Guys. It was a page 2 vote. There’s not enough evidence to suggest anyone was actually scum.”

So which time were you telling the truth?
Both.

Have you played mafia before?

Because voting somebody seriously for something I think is scummy
doesn’t mean I legit think he’s scum. I never declared I thought he is definitely scum.


Based on what has transpired though, you look more like scum than he does. I still find him scummy also. Imagine that. I can find people scummy and still don’t know if they are scum.

Clearly I must be scum. How can town think somebody is scummy but not think they are actually scum...

And cause with you I actually think it needs to be said. that last line was sarcasm.
Basically, “I didn’t think
he was scum”. “I never declared I thought
he is definitely scum is just pedantry.
In post 72, Wimpy wrote:
In post 68, Menalque wrote:Why do u think datisi is scum?
I’ve explained my thoughts. Why are you asking a redundant question?
My question: why do you think she’s scum? His answer: I’ve explained why [i think she’s scum].

If he wasn’t saying she was scum, why not correct me here. The implied in his answer is that he does think Datisi is scum.
In post 82, Wimpy wrote:
In post 75, Menalque wrote:
In post 72, Wimpy wrote:
In post 68, Menalque wrote:Why do u think datisi is scum?
I’ve explained my thoughts. Why are you asking a redundant question?
I mean u hadn’t at the time I asked
Posts 53 and 65 explain what I was thinking so that’s not true at all.
Points back to 53 and 64 as his reasons for why he thinks datisi is scum
In post 53, Wimpy wrote:
In post 49, Menalque wrote:Interesting

Why was it serious?
Cause I dislike when people come in and reference past games and vote them for it. It violates site rules and is scummy.

I bet he doesn’t have anything close to a legit reason for voting me outside of perceived omgus that is.
Again, claimed serious vote. When asked about it later, answers in a way that implies that he believes datisi is really scum.
In post 65, Wimpy wrote:The more datsi posts the better I feel about my vote. It’s like he doesn’t like the attention and he doesn’t know how to handle it.
Other post for reference.

- - - -

So you’re p clearly lying

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:37 am
by Wimpy
In post 149, Datisi wrote:
In post 53, Wimpy wrote:Cause I dislike when people come in and reference past games and vote them for it. It violates site rules and
is scummy.
I mean you said I was scummy here

and I'm getting bent because I had a feeling that your reasoning for a "serious vote" was very flimsy and possibly scum indicative

Mena voted me as well and I didn't attack him

however i am willing to drop this pissing match because i don't think it's too helpful for Town
yes I called you scummy. Being called scummy doesn't mean you are scum.

my reason for my serious vote WAS flimsy. I would never expect you to get lynched because of that reason. I would never be able to convince others to lynch you for that reason but for page 2, it is a perfectly good reason. I am not really concerned how people interpret my actions. I don't possibly understand how you could think that is scum indicative, just like you don't understand how I thought your opening posts were.

I'd also say despite it being flimsy, it's still better than anything menal has provided why I am scum, and he expects people to put me at L-1.


I think you were scum cause you did something I have seen scum do

he thinks I am scum cause I was faking being non-chalant.

remember menal did say this
In post 130, Menalque wrote:Your reasons are illogical because they don’t correspond to an actual metric of whether someone is scum or not
Can anyone seriously tell me menal's reasons correspond to any metric on somebody being scum or not?

so "I have seen scum do this before so i think you could be scum" is illogical and doesn't fit the metric but

you are faking being nonchalant does?

:lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:38 am
by Wimpy
In post 151, Menalque wrote:My question: why do you think she’s scum? His answer: I’ve explained why [i think she’s scum].

If he wasn’t saying she was scum, why not correct me here. The implied in his answer is that he does think Datisi is scum.
you are really going to play the semantics card?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:38 am
by Menalque
Notice how hard wimpy is trying to change the narrative around his datisi vote

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:39 am
by Menalque
In post 153, Wimpy wrote:
In post 151, Menalque wrote:My question: why do you think she’s scum? His answer: I’ve explained why [i think she’s scum].

If he wasn’t saying she was scum, why not correct me here. The implied in his answer is that he does think Datisi is scum.
you are really going to play the semantics card?
Then in [post]153[/vote] he’s trying to avoid engaging with the substance of my argument

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:39 am
by Datisi
I specifically bolded the "scummy" part there, but I honestly appreciate and accept the apology. While you didn't call me a cheater, saying I broke site rules when I clearly didn't did anger me.

And rest assured, there is ABSOLUTELY NO grudge between me and Menalque - regarding the game in question (Micro 892), we were scum together, and it's one of my most favorite games I've played on this site.

And I still find your reasoning very illogical.

pedit: holy shit here you two go again
okay back into the pissing match we go i guess *unzips pants*

ppedit: uhhh

pppedit: LET ME POST

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:40 am
by Wimpy
In post 151, Menalque wrote:So you’re p clearly lying
I p.clearly am not lying and nothing you posted proved that. Go ahead and hide behind semantics.

I don't have time to sit and clearly think out every single post I make to make sure I correct people when they ask me why i think somebody is scum when I don't actually think they are 100% scum, but i do think they are scummy and have the potential to be scum.

if you have that kind of time, good for you mate.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:40 am
by Menalque
Like that’s not a town response, I’m sorry

Town doesn’t go “oh you’re gonna play the semantics card huh” when there’s an argument there that they think is being pushed by scum

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:41 am
by Wimpy
In post 155, Menalque wrote:Then in [post]153[/vote] he’s trying to avoid engaging with the substance of my argument
there was no substance in your argument

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:41 am
by Menalque
In post 156, Datisi wrote:I specifically bolded the "scummy" part there, but I honestly appreciate and accept the apology. While you didn't call me a cheater, saying I broke site rules when I clearly didn't did anger me.

And rest assured, there is ABSOLUTELY NO grudge between me and Menalque - regarding the game in question (Micro 892), we were scum together, and it's
one of
my most favorite games I've played on this site.

And I still find your reasoning very illogical.

pedit: holy shit here you two go again
okay back into the pissing match we go i guess *unzips pants*

ppedit: uhhh

pppedit: LET ME POST

AHEM

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:42 am
by Wimpy
In post 156, Datisi wrote:And I still find your reasoning very illogical.
you are entitled to think that

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:42 am
by Menalque
In post 159, Wimpy wrote:
In post 155, Menalque wrote:Then in [post]153[/vote] he’s trying to avoid engaging with the substance of my argument
there was no substance in your argument
I mean yes there obviously was

You claimed that you never actually thought datisi was scum just that she had been scummy

I pointed out how you quite clearly were claiming you thought datisi was scum in your earlier posts

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:43 am
by Datisi
In post 160, Menalque wrote:AHEM
FINE IT'S MY FAVORITE GAME I'VE PLAYED CAN WE GO BACK TO SUBJECT AT HAND?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:44 am
by Menalque
In post 163, Datisi wrote:
In post 160, Menalque wrote:AHEM
FINE IT'S MY FAVORITE GAME I'VE PLAYED CAN WE GO BACK TO SUBJECT AT HAND?
Yis :D

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:45 am
by Wimpy
In post 156, Datisi wrote:okay back into the pissing match we go i guess *unzips pants*
I am done responding to menalque, and probably you for a while. You both want to nitpick every little thing and while i can't talk about it, I am definitely annoyed at this site right now cause people want to nitpick instead of actually letting the game play out.

so you guys keep doing you. I have nothing more to say to either you about the first 6 pages. If I get lynched, I guess i will learn to somehow use logic that applies to everyone (despite actually knowing what other people consider logical and illogical) and ignore what I personally think is logical.


Good day chaps. Off to enjoy a tasty breakfast burger

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:46 am
by Wimpy
In post 162, Menalque wrote:I mean yes there obviously was

You claimed that you never actually thought datisi was scum just that she had been scummy

I pointed out how you quite clearly were claiming you thought datisi was scum in your earlier posts
In post 147, Wimpy wrote:Have you played mafia before?

Because voting somebody seriously for something I think is scummy doesn’t mean I legit think he’s scum. I never declared I thought he is definitely scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:49 am
by Menalque
Like honestly I’m sorry you rolled scum and outed yourself within like 5 pages to everyone but we still have to lynch you

I’ll give you feedback after the game if you like on how you can avoid it happening again

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:50 am
by Wimpy
In post 71, Wimpy wrote:
In post 66, Datisi wrote:
In post 62, Wimpy wrote:I did call you scummy for it.
Ok then please give results of your sorting

And explain why referencing past games w/ a friend makes me scummy
I think you are probably scum.

I know I’m town
Menal is null

I fee when scum try to rvs it comes off awkward and yours came off awkward. I’m also not a fan of using people’s alignment in another game, in future games because I consider that outside influences. Even if it’s a joke
note the bolded.

also
In post 162, Menalque wrote:You claimed that you never actually thought datisi was scum just that she had been scummy
This is a lie.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:51 am
by Menalque
In post 165, Wimpy wrote:
In post 156, Datisi wrote:okay back into the pissing match we go i guess *unzips pants*
I am done responding to menalque, and probably you for a while. You both want to nitpick every little thing and while i can't talk about it, I am definitely annoyed at this site right now cause people want to nitpick instead of actually letting the game play out.

so you guys keep doing you. I have nothing more to say to either you about the first 6 pages. If I get lynched, I guess i will learn to somehow use logic that applies to everyone (despite actually knowing what other people consider logical and illogical) and ignore what I personally think is logical.


Good day chaps. Off to enjoy a tasty breakfast burger
This is a lot of words to say “I realise I fucked up and outed myself so now I’m gonna ignore it and hope it goes away”

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:53 am
by Menalque
In post 168, Wimpy wrote:
In post 71, Wimpy wrote:
In post 66, Datisi wrote:
In post 62, Wimpy wrote:I did call you scummy for it.
Ok then please give results of your sorting

And explain why referencing past games w/ a friend makes me scummy
I think you are probably scum.

I know I’m town
Menal is null

I fee when scum try to rvs it comes off awkward and yours came off awkward. I’m also not a fan of using people’s alignment in another game, in future games because I consider that outside influences. Even if it’s a joke
note the bolded.

also
In post 162, Menalque wrote:You claimed that you never actually thought datisi was scum just that she had been scummy
This is a lie.
You claimed that in : “ Because voting somebody seriously for something I think is scummy doesn’t mean I legit think he’s scum”

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:53 am
by Wimpy
In post 151, Menalque wrote:Basically, “I didn’t think
he was scum”. “I never declared I thought
he is definitely scum is just pedantry.
this isn't pedantry btw. nobody has 100% certainty on page 2, or even 3, 4, and sometimes page 20.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:54 am
by Wimpy
In post 170, Menalque wrote:You claimed that in 147: “ Because voting somebody seriously for something I think is scummy doesn’t mean I legit think he’s scum”
yes I said that. It is a factual statement that has been proven in every game of mafia ever played.

What is your point?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:55 am
by Menalque
You clearly implied that you thought she was scum

Saying you never said she was definitely scum is pedantic ass covering so you can say “oh but I never said she was DEFINITELY scum”

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:56 am
by Menalque
In post 172, Wimpy wrote:
In post 170, Menalque wrote:You claimed that in 147: “ Because voting somebody seriously for something I think is scummy doesn’t mean I legit think he’s scum”
yes I said that. It is a factual statement that has been proven in every game of mafia ever played.

What is your point?
You can’t keep your story straight and it’s because you’re scum

You claimed you voted datisi because you thought she was scum

Now you’re claiming that you just voted her because she was scummy but that you never really believed she was scum