Mini 2106 - Mitama's Fate Weave Circle (Mod/Spoilers Thread)

[Salamence20]

Also imagine disc choice being affected hahahahahahafuckmehahaha

[Salamence20]

Also did evenstar die or did she just refuse to be here

[Tatsuya Kaname]

It seems like the obvious setup spec from their point of view is, Alchemist has a ability memoria similar to Pops', where pops' said "when you do an action, interfery stuff on your face doesn't interfere, but block effects on the target still block", and Alchemist's says "when you do an action, interfery stuff on your face will interfere, but block effects on the target can never block". One could think that pair of items is too on-the-nose but I feel like it should be believable. For that reason Alchemist shouldn't be mech cleared anyway, although you could argue it's a soft clear depending on how likely you think it is for that ability memoria to exist.

I think it's very questionable design for Peony Bouquet to nullify Charm effects, and for Charm effects to have the express purpose of nullifying Peony Bouquets. I don't think there's any issue where the mods hadn't decided how this interaction would work pre-game, Peony Bouquet pretty clearly contemplates this kind of interaction, the problem is that the Charm status doesn't, and whenever you add a new form of roleblock to the game, the default assumption is that none of the targets for that type of roleblock have a passive immunity to it. That assumption gets suspended when it's not longer new and when it's been shown that some things are immune sometimes. The very first person to include a Godfather was a bastard, the fourth person to include a Godfather wasn't. It's pretty difficult for town to anticipate a Megia saying "bee tee dubs, this megia ignores stuff that says you can't megia". If someone added mafia role that says "No PT" when it gets PT copped, no one does that, so if it wasn't in the PT cop's role PM it'd be bastard. "moderator lies that can be reasonably anticipated" is a tricky guideline to navigate but I think Torque and TK stumbled over the line here, it's a bit of a lie for Kerset's role PM to tell Ker "The player with this Status Aliment is prevented from using their Night Action, Memoria Skill and Magia/Doppel." It's easy to anticipate that it's a lie when Bitmap's role PM says "Activate to target a player. If target has one or more kill attempts on them, you will bodyguard ALL kill attempts and you have a 50% chance to survive EACH of them.", site meta makes it clear that effects that bypass protection might exist, and they do. But there's no "site meta" for Magia so this is kind of iffy territory.

It's -kind of- a dumb thing to argue about since the same outcome can be reached without using a difficult-to-anticipate-lie, I feel like the Ability Memoria Scenario could have status immunity written in it and that would make it an easy-to-anticipate lie (this is subjective). But possibly Farkran and the other townies are good at modwifom in certain ways I am not and have correctly guessed the number of skill memorias on the scumteam to be 1 and ruled that out or ruled it as unlikely, so there's still an impact.

In conclusion open setups are teh best.

I do take the responsibility of creating the status aliments and I admit that Alchemist21's power really entered the bastard territory and I really apologize for anyone who is (or will be) disturbed for the fact of playing in a bastard game.

That said, I also think that there were too many roleblocks in this game, seriously (one Stun, one Bewitch, one passive ascetic, one active ascetic and asceticiser combo). This made some possible interactions a bit confusing. (My NAR for Status Aliments actually go like "Status Aliment givers simultaneously activate first (unless they are blocked by any aliments they have BEFORE), then other actions activate later (unless they have/got any aliments)" and somehow I ruled Alchemist21's Magia kill to go before all of this)

I'm doing this as a one off anyway, and it's a fun experiment. (Or if anyone want, I'll do another one with Fate/Grand Order).

[Nancy Drew 39]

[redacted]

RC, leave Pops alone.

[RadiantCowbells]

[redacted]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Also did evenstar die or did she just refuse to be here

I dunno, maybe she just doesn’t like dead threads.

[popsofctown]

I think he posted 148 to be even less serious and unambiguously not mean, since neither Edelguard nor the character in my avatar seems to intend for her hair to be "hot". You interpreted it as defying the warning but I don't think that's what he was doing with it.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think he posted 148 to be even less serious and unambiguously not mean, since neither Edelguard nor the character in my avatar seems to intend for her hair to be "hot". You interpreted it as defying the warning but I don't think that's what he was doing with it.

Oh I know, RC’s a really good guy. I just thought it was making you uncomfortable. Apparently I was wrong, I’m sorry RC.

[Salamence20]

Fake claims from a mod? What do you mean?

mod providing town versions of the scum roles

Did this ever happen before?

Dont play many theme games do ya?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Fake claims from a mod? What do you mean?

mod providing town versions of the scum roles

Did this ever happen before?

Dont play many theme games do ya?

Well tbf, in one of my earliest games, people were really suspicious of me for misunderstanding what a factional kill meant, because my interpretation of it sounded TMI to them.

[Evenstar]

I'm dead, yeah

[popsofctown]

I'm deader

[Salamence20]

Im giving a scummy nom to chemist if alch gets lynched off of bullshit.

Come on Farkran, make my day

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm dead, yeah

I'm deader

Some people don’t even know they’re dead.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Im giving a scummy nom to chemist if alch gets lynched off of bullshit.

Come on Farkran, make my day

You realize Chemist will be locktown once Gamma flips because scum!him has literally no reason to go out on this much of a limb to save town!Gamma.

[Salamence20]

Alch should claim.

I already said I’m not claiming today.

This could be interesting.

I made Alchemist a motivator fakeclaim but Im curious to see if he is going to use it. Probably worried about the wording and the fact every claim made so far for scum has backfired.

Probably getting voted for it now

[Salamence20]

Im giving a scummy nom to chemist if alch gets lynched off of bullshit.

Come on Farkran, make my day

You realize Chemist will be locktown once Gamma flips because scum!him has literally no reason to go out on this much of a limb to save town!Gamma.

*Shrug*

Farkran will find a way?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Im giving a scummy nom to chemist if alch gets lynched off of bullshit.

Come on Farkran, make my day

You realize Chemist will be locktown once Gamma flips because scum!him has literally no reason to go out on this much of a limb to save town!Gamma.

*Shrug*

Farkran will find a way?

You also realize he gave up one of his votes indefinitely to test Sujimichi? What possible scum motivation could he ever possibly have to do that?

No scum in their right mind would ever risk losing one of their votes unless maybe if they were at L - 1 but that obviously wasn’t the case with Chemist.

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Farkran vote is on Gamma Emerald at post 2921, which was a lynch so we go the the vote he has BEFORE that, which is Alchemist21 at 2920.

Let's see if something interesting goes off.

1-2 - NO EFFECT
3-7 - POISON
8-9 - POISON + BEWITCH
10 - POISON + STUN

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Poison it is.

[Salamence20]

Btw the fact that TL can re-hood sounds really fucking broken

[RadiantCowbells]

[redacted]

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Game's over! If you want to redact anything, please tell me. This PT will be released in (expired on 2019-12-19 12:00:00)