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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:14 pm
by Hectic
In post 144, AaronFrost wrote: In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in
31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).
Tentative townlean on Sircakez
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:15 pm
by Hectic
In post 150, Hectic wrote: In post 144, AaronFrost wrote: In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in
31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).
Tentative townlean on Sircakez
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Whoops.
I was more getting at the fact he answered my TOF/townread question with a joke rather than answer seriously with any potential townreads.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:18 pm
by Wake1
In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?
How early is too early to start scumhunting and figuring out the game in your opinion, Morning Tweet?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:18 pm
by SirCakez
This game is making me feel old ;_;
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:19 pm
by AaronFrost
I went ahead and compared Wake's entrance in this game to his scumgame that I modded and I think I agree with a townlean there. I think he's tonally different compared to that game and here he has a better interest in solving than he did there, specifically by bringing up the meta thing.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 121, Hectic wrote:
Oh God lol. I remember reading a bit of that when it was happening and I thought Wake's entrance felt a lot townier than usual.
Oh shit
Didn't realize town won that game
yay!
Also AaronFFrost gets townpoints for the Survivor meme
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:21 pm
by Wake1
At the moment, I don't really remember. I spent initially started the process of getting that 50p game started way back in early December, so I haven't played since November.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 154, AaronFrost wrote:I went ahead and compared Wake's entrance in this game to his scumgame that I modded and I think I agree with a townlean there. I think he's tonally different compared to that game and here he has a better interest in solving than he did there, specifically by bringing up the meta thing.
I am of the agreeing.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:24 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 151, Hectic wrote: In post 150, Hectic wrote: In post 144, AaronFrost wrote: In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in
31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).
Tentative townlean on Sircakez
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Whoops.
I was more getting at the fact he answered my TOF/townread question with a joke rather than answer seriously with any potential townreads.
Okay, what do you think of him now that he's playing seriously?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:26 pm
by Hectic
Alright. I liked his Morning Tweet observation, and his questions were fine.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:27 pm
by AaronFrost
"Jeff can I play this voting podium?"
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:28 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I honestly wish that would have worked, and honestly I think if one of Jeff's teacher's pets tried that he'd have allowed it
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:30 pm
by AaronFrost
I thought Jeff liked Adam?
Either way that shit was hilarious.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:31 pm
by Wake1
In post 59, bob3141 wrote:
if waka hasnt rolled scum this year
gambler's fallacy here i come
VOTE: waka
Seems like a reach, but OK.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:34 pm
by Wake1
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:38 pm
by Wake1
In post 86, AaronFrost wrote: In post 59, bob3141 wrote: In post 51, Hectic wrote: In post 48, davesaz wrote: In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?
I think it's a reference back to the 50p that Wake modded where metadiving was a very big thing.
I've seen/read though like 6 Wake games, but they were all town. I may or may not have gained some knowledge while impersonating him in the 50 player large for a bit. Wake, have you rolled scum in the last year?
if waka hasnt rolled scum this year
gambler's fallacy here i come
VOTE: waka
Waka flocka flame has rolled scum in the last year
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560
OK, I remember that one now.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:39 pm
by Wake1
I don't see an issue with it provided he's correct.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:40 pm
by Wake1
In post 94, tictac wrote: In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
well, u gonna suck if ya scum, since ya think lying is naughty. that's what ya told me last time ya were scum anywhey.
speaking of: are ya scum here? I'm gonna be sad if ya lie.
Eh, lying is Scummy so I don't much like seeing it from Town unless there's a very good reason for it.
I'm 0% Scum this game.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:41 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:42 pm
by Wake1
In post 95, profii wrote:
Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think
You probably shouldn't dish out Town points that easily. Just my opinion.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:43 pm
by Wake1
Could you explain that confidence here?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:47 pm
by Wake1
In post 121, Hectic wrote:
Oh God lol. I remember reading a bit of that when it was happening and I thought Wake's entrance felt a lot townier than usual.
What I can say is that when I'm Scum I can be very convincing Town (the only reason we crumbled in that game was due to the Town-sided setup).
Ironically, as Town, I often get Scumread or voted for being pointedly opinionated and argumentative.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:48 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 152, Wake1 wrote: In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?
How early is too early to start scumhunting and figuring out the game in your opinion, Morning Tweet?
There isn't really a "too early", although I was more concerned with getting out meta-tells in specific. Getting meta-tells out in the open before people have had a chance to make them seems ineffective at first but i like your explanation in
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Wake88 wrote: In post 95, profii wrote:
Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think
You probably shouldn't dish out Town points that easily. Just my opinion.
I like dishing out town points a bunch on day one, even if its really small things. Anything that gives someone above random% chance of being scum helps
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:53 pm
by Hectic
In post 95, profii wrote:Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think
What alignments has Waka Waka been when you've seen him declare Day 1 as the work of the abyssals? And if they're all town, then why does this difference earn him town points rather than scum points?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:55 pm
by Wake1
In post 133, Morning Tweet wrote:At first when he proposed doing meta dives out of the blue, i starting having a slight crackpot theory that scum!Wake wanted to gain town cred in a way that sticks out really well
Someone (you i think actually) asked him for an explanation of why he would want to out metas before people have a chance to even display them (which was a good point).
His answer of wanting to make people nervous and change their playstyles from the outted meta rather than simply observe whether their meta was the same seemed like a pretty good idea to me actually. And then dave answered my question of why he was so eager on the proposition. Overall I like him doing it as town better
Seems awfully reasonable of you.
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