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Yeah I agree with you on the lack of content thing.Last game day 1 was 48 pages.Reading people was easy.Scum might be throwing this game into inactivity. But I can't see who or what is doing that.Pao hasn't posted for two days.If not for holidays he'd have been replaced.As for you chumbo you could be changing methods, who knows.

I was thinking of eliminating SEs from starting from scummiest.But it is totally random.There is still a good chance of catching scum at random from SEs.Muh316 and Catboi are townlean. Not_mafia could be scum.Though he hasn't done anything Towny or scummy and perhaps he never will.And it probably could be newbie scum only.

In post 151, LoneMarkhor wrote:There is still a good chance of catching scum at random from SEs.

I don't understand where this comes from.

In post 150, LoneMarkhor wrote:Scum might be throwing this game into inactivity.

do scum usually do that here?

In post 153, marcistar wrote:do scum usually do that here?

Activity definitely doesn't help scum, I definitely don't think they would try to be active unless necessary.

In post 154, Chumbo wrote:

In post 153, marcistar wrote:do scum usually do that here?

Activity definitely doesn't help scum, I definitely don't think they would try to be active unless necessary.

ahh..
I don't know how scum would act on here, but isnt inactives usually seen as more sus? I don't think both scum would be doing inactive style.. one would have to talk a bit more in able blend in..

I agree, but with most of the town being inactive as well it makes it easier for scum to blend in as inactive I think.

In post 156, Chumbo wrote:I agree, but with most of the town being inactive as well it makes it easier for scum to blend in as inactive I think.

maybe this game just isnt interesting enough LOL lets spice it up guys

i think sometimes people open stuff and then ignore it if something doesnt interest them, so maybe we need some beeg reads in here

Sorry for the inactivity, I have a lot less time on the weekdays because of work. I'm probably going to have to do a re-read here so I can get some reads and bring up the activity. I'll also work on a reads list either today or tomorrow.

Mod, any prods? I see a couple of folks here over the 36 hour threshold.

My POE is like this {not_mafia, ninetails, pao, chumbo }.Pao because his posts look like they come from confused newbie scum who thinks that hiding is better.Ninetails because she posted a lot but not now.Also her posts make accusations which I think are weird not true.Chumbo because I am not convinced that he is town.Not_mafia because I think there's a decent chance we could get scum by eliminating him because he might not have even bothered with his role PM .

In post 155, marcistar wrote:I don't know how scum would act on here, but isnt inactives usually seen as more sus? I don't think both scum would be doing super inactive style.. one would have to talk a bit more in able blend in..

Lurkers could have scum. So far we have Not_Mafia as the prime lurker in this game.

In post 155, marcistar wrote:

In post 154, Chumbo wrote:

In post 153, marcistar wrote:do scum usually do that here?

Activity definitely doesn't help scum, I definitely don't think they would try to be active unless necessary.

ahh..
I don't know how scum would act on here, but isnt inactives usually seen as more sus? I don't think both scum would be doing

super

inactive style.. one would have to talk a bit more in able blend in..

I do agree with this statement quite a lot.

In post 159, LoneMarkhor wrote:Ninetails because she posted a lot but not now.Also her posts make accusations which I think are weird not true.

I didn't log on a single time yesterday so yes, generally I won't be able post without even visiting mafiascum.net.

I've gathered as much. No one here has followed my thought process. Rather than calling it weird, pointing out where you got lost is much more helpful for me.

In post 149, Chumbo wrote:I do have actually have a townread on pickles and paopao.

@catboi: you don't have any feelings about ninetails. You think marci is town and you may still think I'm scum even though I explained our misunderstanding. Do you have any reads on anyone other than me and marci?

The explanation didn't do much for much. I like 148, though. It's possible to change tactics between games but it felt like a very honest admission and given he did all right in his previous game I don't see the need to fake not having reads.

UNVOTE:

I hadn't put a ton of thought into everyone else, was in a bit of a wait and see mode, but clearly that's not working, the game is slow, so I need to rethink my approach.

In post 153, marcistar wrote:

In post 150, LoneMarkhor wrote:Scum might be throwing this game into inactivity.

do scum usually do that here?

lurking can be a strategy, or people can do it because they don't know what to say. It's definitely true that on the whole scum tend to post less but some people just post less as their playstyle so you can't always win by voting the people with the lowest postcount.

I'm going to try to look for a new angle on things, I just need to wake up first.

Yeah it’s doubtful I’m gonna remember I’m playing this game.
It’s just so slow on this site.
And since reads aren’t regally accepted by this group,
I’ve got no idea how I’m supposed to gather my thoughts on people.
I’m still personally leaning towards Ninetales or LoneMarkhor as scum.
Since nobody is agreeing with me on Ninetales, I’ll switch to Lone.
Both have shown me actions that I feel are scum motivated.
UNVOTE: Ninetales
VOTE: LoneMarkhor

I don't have much to work off of here but I'm going to just ask everyone for a readslist and we can try to work from there. No explanations needed. I think others can ask and that way we'll generate some discussion.

Loosely, my reads look something like this right now:

Town: Pao Pao, Pickles
Still sorting: NotMafia, Muh, LoneMarkhor, Chumbo
Scum: Catboi, Marcistar

Come ask me why Pickles is now a townread.
Come argue with me about one of my nulls.
Come ask me why I think catboi is scum.
Come ask me why my marcistar read hasn't budged.

Discussion!

Hey hey hey guys

I don't know if Pao will be back, the wifi in his house isn't working very well so I doubt he'll have time to check in.. I dont expect too much (do you guys do mod kills omg?? )

In post 165, catboi wrote:lurking can be a strategy, or people can do it because they don't know what to say. It's definitely true that on the whole scum tend to post less but some people just post less as their playstyle so you can't always win by voting the people with the lowest postcount.

I don't think activity is a good way to judge people.. if you know their meta well it might be but like without knowing their usual levels as town, I think looking into that is pretty useless.. but they should still have to come say something or else they'll slide too down under.
We need to analyze what they say when they here, and think if its scum intentioned or town intentioned right?

In post 167, Pickles wrote:And since reads aren’t regally accepted by this group,
I’ve got no idea how I’m supposed to gather my thoughts on people.
I’m still personally leaning towards Ninetales or LoneMarkhor as scum.
Since nobody is agreeing with me on Ninetales, I’ll switch to Lone.
Both have shown me actions that I feel are scum motivated.

It's not that they aren't accepted, they're nice. I think reads are juicest when you start pushing hard for the people you scumread tho

I agree with ninetales being scummy, but I don't really wanna act on it yet though. I think alot of people don't really see ninetales how we do, so I think we should let that develop and see the some people are willing to go to.
even tho i agree with both ninetales or lonemarkhor being scum, i gotta be a bit cautious with you too gives me weird vibes.. idk if its explainable in anyway..

In post 168, Ninetales wrote:I don't have much to work off of here but I'm going to just ask everyone for a readslist and we can try to work from there. No explanations needed. I think others can ask and that way we'll generate some discussion.

Loosely, my reads look something like this right now:

Town: Pao Pao, Pickles
Still sorting: NotMafia, Muh, LoneMarkhor, Chumbo
Scum: Catboi, Marcistar

Come ask me why Pickles is now a townread.
Come argue with me about one of my nulls.
Come ask me why I think catboi is scum.
Come ask me why my marcistar read hasn't budged.

Discussion!

I- I know i'm beautiful ninetales but this is so so much. Lets just... <3 all love no hate
Can I ask for you to explain every single one of these? (you said they arent needed but..) I think reads without explanation aren't really useful at all.

Have you townread Pao through this whole game so far..? Why, you aren't sure how he usually acts.. so why so much trust in him? I don't see you talking bad about him at all..

If you scumread catboi, why is chumbo just a null? isn't catbois vote on him? wouldn't having a read on catboi be enough to be able to make a bit of a read on chumbo or is that too hard to do??

In post 169, marcistar wrote:I- I know i'm beautiful ninetales but this is so so much. Lets just... <3 all love no hate

I'm not sure what you mean. This has nothing to do with how pretty you are, love, or hate.

In post 169, marcistar wrote:Can I ask for you to explain every single one of these? (you said they arent needed but..) I think reads without explanation aren't really useful at all.

I said I wanted people to ask me to generate more engagement and discussion. Yes you may ask me but I'd prefer specific questions not just "explain everything please"

In post 169, marcistar wrote:Have you townread Pao through this whole game so far..? Why, you aren't sure how he usually acts.. so why so much trust in him? I don't see you talking bad about him at all..

My townread on him is actually mostly based on my scum read on you. I felt like you were interacting an awful lot with them which could be a potential pocket.

Interactions with Pao:

In post 169, marcistar wrote:If you scumread catboi, why is chumbo just a null? isn't catbois vote on him? wouldn't having a read on catboi be enough to be able to make a bit of a read on chumbo or is that too hard to do??

Scums can scumread or townread anyone they want to and I do not think my scum read's read on someone else has to affect my own read on that other person.

VOTE: Marcistar

My scum read on Marcistar is the strongest. Here are my reasons:

1) They have a lot of useless and contentless posts also excess amount of emojis(not sure if this actually means anything but I thought I'd mention it). I couldn't post this post because it went over the maximum number of emojis. I had to delete half of them and half of them were these : . This ties in to point 4) a little bit.
2) They have a lot of confusion that feels over. They seem so confused that I feel the confusion is fake. (I didn't include the confusion at the beginning about votes and titles but I also felt those were a little over but they seemed not terrible since Marcistar is new)
3) slight pocketing. they do this to nearly everyone.
4) They keep saying "just vote me"
I think of this as a form of guilt tripping.
5) They have no clear stances. mostly just "think person could be scum"

Inside the spoiler is the case. Outside of the spoiler was a summary.

I just found a few typos. Sorry about that but it should be understandable what I am saying.

In post 167, Pickles wrote:Yeah it’s doubtful I’m gonna remember I’m playing this game.
It’s just so slow on this site.

FWIW this game is unusually slow, even for a newbie game. Games in other queues move faster. Ill try to post more though.

In post 171, Ninetales wrote:1) They have a lot of useless and contentless posts also excess amount of emojis(not sure if this actually means anything but I thought I'd mention it). I couldn't post this post because it went over the maximum number of emojis. I had to delete half of them and half of them were these : . This ties in to point 4) a little bit.
2) They have a lot of confusion that feels over. They seem so confused that I feel the confusion is fake. (I didn't include the confusion at the beginning about votes and titles but I also felt those were a little over but they seemed not terrible since Marcistar is new)
3) slight pocketing. they do this to nearly everyone.
4) They keep saying "just vote me"
I think of this as a form of guilt tripping.
5) They have no clear stances. mostly just "think person could be scum"

How is any of that stuff supposed to be scummy?

VOTE: Ninetales

In post 112, Pickles wrote:

Last Two Reads

LoneMarkhor

- They joked around a lot early game, possibly nervous, possibly meming. The first post that felt real was 82 which felt like another townie trying to keep discussion alive longer than a couple IRL days for day one. Post 105and106 felt kind of strange and off putting with them saying in the first post that NotMaf is scum with marc ignoring that fact so they’re partners. Then in the same post saying marc and pao are more likely partners for reasons they also don’t know. Then in the next post they backtrack and say marc is likely newb town which could be as a fallback for when she flips town. Possible TMI. Then claims if you’re town you would know what Ninetales was hinting and that you shouldn’t press the matter. Then goes on to describe it had to do with roll fishing. Now, I’ve played a lot of games off site and I had NO IDEA it started as a roll fishing situation because no town power roles were even mentioned. Just town/scum. I was as confused about what Nine was implying as marc and pao were, I just wasn’t here to comment on it. I don’t like these vibes right now so I’m gonna go with gut here.

Ninetales

- The progression they don’t have really hurts my head. They seem to be all over the place as soon as they arrive. Very chaotic. They SR pao and think marc is NAI, but vote marc saying it’s a RVS vote. Then as things progress, they’re vote becomes a legit one with SR on marc for unknown reasons? Then they backtrack on the SR for pao and claim they never said they actually SR them just made observation. The whole ISO is very fence sitting, can’t actually make any true opinions. I haven’t seen anything that indicates town from their posts. I’ll go as far as to say this is my highest SR currently.

re-looking at this. I don't really agree with your reasons for scumreading LoneMarkhor, I don't think calling someone likely town is TMI, and I don't see any talk from him about role fishing? However, I think the way he pushed not_mafia is potentially scummy because scum would see him as a good target, and the way he moved onto chumbo wasn't great reasoning, his whole thing about wanting to eliminate in SEs makes no sense to me. It's not overtly scummy but I wouldn't call him a townread.

Mostly thought Ninetales could just be a different perspective and the reasons she was getting voted weren't good, the comment about paopao's reaction to the titles thing was just thinking it was scum or pr indicative, and i can see reason not to out that, but I'm not a fan of her continued tunnel on marcistar and the reasons there just aren't good. I wouldn't say she's fence sitting though.