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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:20 pm
by Enchant
In post 139, floo wrote: In post 136, Spartan117 wrote:
Found this sus to even insinuate it is somewhat serious a vote this early on with such little discussion, unless ofc this is to obtain a reaction and read responses.
Right, as I explained I said it was "partially serious" to avoid seeming scummy / too random.
I probably ask something nonsense, but really want.
Why you think placing votes suspicious? Do you really care how suspicious are you?
Of course explaining votes is good, but doing that and claiming you did that just to don't seem suspicious for that is really something strange.
Town supposed to push suspicious people, you know.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:20 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 105, flow trap wrote:It seemed like a town play to me, what scum wants this kind of negative attention this early on
The only person he's gotten negative attention from is me.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:22 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 125, safebet222 wrote: In post 118, Salsabil Faria wrote:
If anyone/your scum partner hammered at that point, it would definitely benefit the team mafia cause
(i)
if you are the mafia then you know
flow trap
is a town, so a miselimination would occur and,
(ii)
the day would over without discussing anything, the town would stay behind.
Can't find any town motivation from your E-1 vote.
Then you're not thinking hard enough
Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:23 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 129, safebet222 wrote:So right now, for me, FoS is pointing at EZ and Spartan.
EZ for an unnatural response to my flow vote and Spartan for voting there when he did. Easy to slip by sandwiched between votes on a flash wagon.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:23 pm
by esotericzoomer
woah thats huge
my bad
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pm
by flow trap
I believe this is known as the hummingbird effect
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:25 pm
by flow trap
In post 152, esotericzoomer wrote:Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.
Well, they thought I was a new player, so they should expect one
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:27 pm
by esotericzoomer
It's really not, I just have a differing opinion on theory.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:28 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 156, flow trap wrote: In post 152, esotericzoomer wrote:Still no town motivation behind your E-1 vote, flow trap gave literally 0 AI reactions to any of the pressure put on them.
Well, they thought I was a new player, so they should expect one
You were already on E-2 prior for a decent amount of time and gave literally nothing, he does not benefit by making such a forced reaction test.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:29 pm
by safebet222
And you'd perfer to still bebtalking about the finer points of vanilla mafia?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
by flow trap
I believe you're focusing on the outcome and not their intended outcome
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:32 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 160, flow trap wrote:I believe you're focusing on the outcome and not their intended outcome
Their reaction test seems super fake, that's that.
Scum motivation - Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie.
Town motivation - uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:35 pm
by flow trap
I mean "Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie." could also be town motivation
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:35 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 162, flow trap wrote:I mean "Making a risky reaction test to a controversial wagon, cause chaos and come out townie." could also be town motivation
no
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:36 pm
by flow trap
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:37 pm
by safebet222
Hi my name is safebet. I am scum. Let's put someone at E-1 for 18 minutes. That seems like a great scum strat...
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:39 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.
In post 108, flow trap wrote:VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:40 pm
by flow trap
In post 166, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.
In post 108, flow trap wrote:VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs
Ok, I think you're being Pseudo-helpful
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
No need to apologise. We are not entitled to your presence on this site.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
In post 167, flow trap wrote: In post 166, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
Your vote below has given me nothing to respond to. To elaborate, I don't even know why you are scum reading me and, hence, do not have a basis to say that you do not have a reasonable suspicion on me.
In post 108, flow trap wrote:VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
Starting a day off with a vote for one of my SRs
Ok, I think you're being Pseudo-helpful
Ok. That's what you think I am. So?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:43 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 165, safebet222 wrote:Hi my name is safebet. I am scum. Let's put someone at E-1 for 18 minutes. That seems like a great scum strat...
great town strat!
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:44 pm
by flow trap
I think that is a Scum tell; I belive you have 3 options
1. Refute that it is a scum tell
2. Refute that you were doing it
3. State something town you did
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:46 pm
by flow trap
EZ, would you agree that mafia doesn't want attention?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:47 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
In post 171, flow trap wrote:I think that is a Scum tell; I belive you have 3 options
1. Refute that it is a scum tell
2. Refute that you were doing it
3. State something town you did
1. I don't have to even refute it because you have not stated why it is a scum tell.
2. I don't have to refute that I was doing it because you have not demonstrated that I was doing it.
3. If I were to state something town I did, it would show that I was intentionally doing it to be town-read and make it completely useless.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:47 pm
by esotericzoomer
No not at all. Being the loudest voice in the room can help you control town or at the very least blend in.
Depends on how anxious the player is.
Players who intentionally fly under the radar are going to be noticed and come under fire.