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In post 141, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm still waiting on Italiano to answer the question from #112. Really want to know what their thought process was with it.

In post 142, StrangeMatter wrote:Where is everyone right now, I get that discussion is a bit harder with a person VLA, and one has to be replaced, but 6 other people aren't even talking at all. That kind of seems like a waste of a day to have no discussion whatsoever. So can those 6 people explain why they're not talking right now?

In post 138, Noraa wrote:

In post 133, Roden wrote:I'm town reading Nora at this point but I honestly wish I wasn't. Pretty sure she's just a townie giving scum a free Day 1.

fuck this makes me think you're scum even more. because I feel like newbies aren't so nuanced that they can townread me here despite me hard SRing but its also not right off the bat so maybe its genuine. honestly im pretty tunneled and I feel bad because that makes me think roden is town. for some reason, im particularly good at tunneling town and its not a great thing.

In post 130, Illwei wrote:

In post 112, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm wondering, @Italiano, why do you keep asking questions such as asking about people's votes or RVS like they mean something?

This feels like an opportunistic jump

Idk abt here but I've heard RVS reffered to as RQS as well, random questions or whatnot. anything in RVS is more useful than nothing, and I think everything means more than nothing.

In post 152, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 141, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm still waiting on Italiano to answer the question from #112. Really want to know what their thought process was with it.

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In post 112, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm wondering, @Italiano, why do you keep asking questions such as asking about people's votes or RVS like they mean something?

I ask questions the way I do because I not only want to just sort players I want to know and see how they think. I wanna know why people do the things they do or don't do the things they do. I want to know how players think and what's going on in their head, not just why they did something. I usually do this with RQS but sometimes I do it the way you see it here. It just depends on how I'm feeling. Some people think it's weird or suspicious but hey I'm not playing for them, I'm playing for myself and it works for me because I've caught plenty of scum/wolves that way, but it also helps me accurately pinpoint town players so finding scum is easier.

In post 156, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 130, Illwei wrote:

In post 112, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm wondering, @Italiano, why do you keep asking questions such as asking about people's votes or RVS like they mean something?

This feels like an opportunistic jump

Idk abt here but I've heard RVS reffered to as RQS as well, random questions or whatnot. anything in RVS is more useful than nothing, and I think everything means more than nothing.

Not sure about what you thought that made this an opportunistic jump. I just wanted them to answer that question, and got what I think was a pretty good response from it, so I'm happy to back off.

In post 155, Roden wrote:

In post 138, Noraa wrote:

In post 133, Roden wrote:I'm town reading Nora at this point but I honestly wish I wasn't. Pretty sure she's just a townie giving scum a free Day 1.

fuck this makes me think you're scum even more. because I feel like newbies aren't so nuanced that they can townread me here despite me hard SRing but its also not right off the bat so maybe its genuine. honestly im pretty tunneled and I feel bad because that makes me think roden is town. for some reason, im particularly good at tunneling town and its not a great thing.

This is kind of what I mean when I say you're being condescending. Why is it so hard to imagine a newbie could be nuanced with their reads? I know you're in VLA now so this isn't getting answered, but man, this is not a good start.

In post 157, GrandpaMo wrote:

In post 152, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 141, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm still waiting on Italiano to answer the question from #112. Really want to know what their thought process was with it.

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In post 112, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm wondering, @Italiano, why do you keep asking questions such as asking about people's votes or RVS like they mean something?

I ask questions the way I do because I not only want to just sort players I want to know and see how they think. I wanna know why people do the things they do or don't do the things they do. I want to know how players think and what's going on in their head, not just why they did something. I usually do this with RQS but sometimes I do it the way you see it here. It just depends on how I'm feeling. Some people think it's weird or suspicious but hey I'm not playing for them, I'm playing for myself and it works for me because I've caught plenty of scum/wolves that way, but it also helps me accurately pinpoint town players so finding scum is easier.

tell me what you got out of it?

In post 157, GrandpaMo wrote:

In post 152, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 141, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm still waiting on Italiano to answer the question from #112. Really want to know what their thought process was with it.

Spoiler:

In post 112, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm wondering, @Italiano, why do you keep asking questions such as asking about people's votes or RVS like they mean something?

I ask questions the way I do because I not only want to just sort players I want to know and see how they think. I wanna know why people do the things they do or don't do the things they do. I want to know how players think and what's going on in their head, not just why they did something. I usually do this with RQS but sometimes I do it the way you see it here. It just depends on how I'm feeling. Some people think it's weird or suspicious but hey I'm not playing for them, I'm playing for myself and it works for me because I've caught plenty of scum/wolves that way, but it also helps me accurately pinpoint town players so finding scum is easier.

tell me what you got out of it?

In post 57, Roden wrote:

In post 55, Noraa wrote:Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?

I have no way of knowing why Strange is scum, the game just started. I just put a vote on them to see what would happen.

In post 100, Illwei wrote:Sorry, yeah. Non Alignment Indicative

Basically Italian's questioning feels uberpointless because he's asking a question that doesn't need to be asked
Bak could have had some sort of scummy answer to that question, but really never a towny one.

In post 105, Noraa wrote:I just got out of a game where I told myself ita was town for the whole game and just refused to see him as scum which ultimately gave him a lot longer to live than he deserved to(since a lot of people SRed him and I just shut them all down). I also know he's known to be LHF and often gets elimmed early in games due to his "scummy play style" I put that in quotations because typically I find him pretty towny. Idk I think the fact that he's getting heat now might be town indicative but scum games aren't always the same every game around since playerlist really matters. I find that newbies tend to pay attention to a lot of things that non newbies don't pay attention to and its possible that they caught something that just flew over my head. Bulge do you have thoughts?

In post 109, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 94, Illwei wrote:

In post 88, ItalianoVD wrote:I don’t give analysis when I ask questions, that’s why I ask questions. I also don’t assume things because it annoys me to no end when people do it to me so I ask questions so people can actually answer them.

Can you define "assuming things" because I feel like at least a whole big part of mafia is based on assuming things, even if the assumptions are more of educated guesses?

Educated guesses are fine but I’m talking about there being a couple interpretations of something (post, interaction, etc.) and it’s assumed only from one side of the coin, like when someone assumes you are scum when you’re not because of a post and then locks in and doesn’t see anything from a town perspective at all. Like I said it’s annoying and I hate when it’s done to me so I know it’s annoying for other people and so I try not to do it, but I will say it’s a null action from me since I do it as both alignments so don’t read into like it means anything read wise.

In post 113, The Bulge wrote:

In post 42, Roden wrote:

In post 35, StrangeMatter wrote:However, #25 and #26 are reasonable concerns. But I won't rule out the possibility that scum could've jumped on it to look town either.

What makes you think it wasn't just RVS to gauge your reaction? Not sure why you got so defensive, you weren't in any danger of being voted out.

where did Strangematter get defensive? I don't see what youre seeing.

In post 166, The Bulge wrote:hmmm ok I reread and there's this Roden post which isn't great, still feeling a tonal townread for sure, but thought this would be worth bringing to light

In post 57, Roden wrote:

In post 55, Noraa wrote:Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?

I have no way of knowing why Strange is scum, the game just started. I just put a vote on them to see what would happen.

this is a very odd response to the very common and simple request of "explain vote pls"

In post 127, StrangeMatter wrote:It isn't who in this game is leaving out their thoughts, its more that its not pro town to hide what you think about someone or a situation.

In post 170, The Bulge wrote:

In post 113, The Bulge wrote:

In post 42, Roden wrote:

In post 35, StrangeMatter wrote:However, #25 and #26 are reasonable concerns. But I won't rule out the possibility that scum could've jumped on it to look town either.

What makes you think it wasn't just RVS to gauge your reaction? Not sure why you got so defensive, you weren't in any danger of being voted out.

where did Strangematter get defensive? I don't see what youre seeing.

@Roden

answer pls

In post 34, StrangeMatter wrote:Well, this got serious a lot faster than I thought. It was really not a serious post, and had nothing actually important to say.

In post 35, StrangeMatter wrote:However, #25 and #26 are reasonable concerns. But I won't rule out the possibility that scum could've jumped on it to look town either.

In post 171, Roden wrote:

In post 166, The Bulge wrote:hmmm ok I reread and there's this Roden post which isn't great, still feeling a tonal townread for sure, but thought this would be worth bringing to light

In post 57, Roden wrote:

In post 55, Noraa wrote:Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?

I have no way of knowing why Strange is scum, the game just started. I just put a vote on them to see what would happen.

this is a very odd response to the very common and simple request of "explain vote pls"

What's odd? I explained my vote pretty clearly here. Nora asked me why Strange is scum and I don't think it's particularly notable for me to not know why someone is scum on page 2. If anything, the question was weird and honestly was pretty loaded.