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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:15 am
by Flea The Magician
Well, not all cards, but I declare some of what i got..

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:52 am
by T3
Please don't.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:53 am
by MURDERCAT
Vote Count 1.2
[2] Infinity 324: cyrus62, mastina
[2] Flea The Magician: Infinity 324, Momrangal
[2] mastina: Bingle, T3
[2] Almost50: House, Dwlee99
[1] Taly: Almost50
[1] House: Flea The Magician
[1] Dwlee99: NDMath
[0] Bingle:
[0] cyrus62:
[0] Dunnstral:
[0] T3:
[0] NDMath:
[0] Momrangal:

Not voting: Dunnstral, Taly

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline expires in
(expired on 2021-07-20 22:28:21).

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:53 pm
by NDMath
In post 103, Bingle wrote: To be clear: the decision above is unilaterally Dunn's decision. Dunn should decide if he thinks half public masonry with him or going for a parity cop usage is better for town and announce that decision on D2. He should not announce it before then.
I disagree, I think the collective town should decide for Dunn later on in the day. We have more information in play to make a good decision with than town!Dunn alone (and the most important factor is people's read on Dunn, which is inherently more in control of the collective than Dunn), as well as it better thwarts scum!Dunn.

In post 130, cyrus62 wrote:here is my issue with me not talking about my cards. i dont know which is a better choice. im guessing the multi task role is a good card to remove from the pack due if scum gets it, it helps them make more kills but . i would like some thoughts on this fyi idc if we should or shouldn't talk about roles due to it being better for town to help each other.
Mafia are by default able to perform a personal ability and a factional kill in this setup, so multitask has roughly equal utility for town and scum.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:57 pm
by NDMath
Townleans on Dunn, Infinity, House
Light Scumleans on monkey and dwlee

Will be back to make more thorough thoughts than just that

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:09 pm
by Infinity 324
Who's monkey

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by T3
In post 155, Infinity 324 wrote:Who's monkey
Almost50.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:54 pm
by cyrus62
In post 155, Infinity 324 wrote:Who's monkey
not mine I don't have a monkey.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:57 pm
by cyrus62
In post 156, T3 wrote:
In post 155, Infinity 324 wrote:Who's monkey
Almost50.
We need to step t up don't let this game be boring it sounds quite fun.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:05 pm
by cyrus62
How was every ones 4th .

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:22 pm
by Bingle
In post 153, NDMath wrote:I disagree, I think the collective town should decide for Dunn later on in the day. We have more information in play to make a good decision with than town!Dunn alone (and the most important factor is people's read on Dunn, which is inherently more in control of the collective than Dunn), as well as it better thwarts scum!Dunn.
Having the town as a whole decide for Dunn is another thing the town as a whole has to get their shit together to come to a consensus on and the decision is an incremental advantage. Having Dunn decide is a decision upon which we can read Dunn, and also makes it less likely for scum to be able to play around the mason investigation nature of the cards if we are in fact going that way.

Tell me about your Dwlee scumlean.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:23 pm
by Bingle
In post 149, Flea The Magician wrote:I kinda want to do the lightning rod play again where I play with my cards face up, but I won't be taking scummy roles because of one person deciding to strike my death knell.
Please don't. Scum having imperfect information is a huge net positive for town.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:06 pm
by NDMath
In post 160, Bingle wrote:Tell me about your Dwlee scumlean.
I think that T3's reasoning of dwlee townreading Cyrus first is nai; I don't really know the situation regarding cyrus but townreads were gonna pile there anyway and a scum!dwlee knows that.
And dwlee's tone seems different than my prior experience with them in a negative way.


For house townlean, in particular I think post 39 comes directly from a town mindset.

For infinity townlean, there arguing posts regarding dunn seems directly protown, and am now realizing they haven't done much else

Also @Bingle, I think you're underestimating the amount town can accomplish in a phase. It just takes keeping a running list of decisions we want to make collectively instead of individually, then once when eod approaches a more mech-based player like yourself makes a proposal covering all decisions, people argue a bit, proposal gets edited.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:07 pm
by House
I'm all for cracking on mechanics, but at the same time it makes it easy for scum to hide by appearing to be helpful without actually contributing anything to the town.

I've had a long day at work today so I'm going to take this evening to relax, but I'll be figuring out some reads tomorrow. I hope there's more alignment discussion and less mechanics/role discussion by then.

Good night, all.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:09 pm
by Infinity 324
ND was a nothing the last time I played with scum!him so it looks good for him so far

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:12 pm
by mastina
In post 59, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: faer
Momra, I <3 you but I think you might be scum here </3
You, however, are town. <3
In post 65, Taly wrote:Mastina, your accuracy rate for reading me is currently 1 to like 5, you can go for 2 out of 6! <3
Eh I'm not
sure
you're town, but I do lean town on the toucan here, so.

Vote: Momrangal

(Still not using vote tags for good reason, townreads here are easier than good scumreads.)
Flea the Magician
Dunnstral
Bingle

Taly
House
cyrus62
Almost50

Dwlee99

NDMath
T3

Infinity 324

Momrangal

Hereabouts.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:15 pm
by Infinity 324
VOTE: A50 I have a lot of townreads. I'm gonna vote someone who's not

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:21 pm
by mastina
In post 76, T3 wrote:Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.
Oh is this in reference to your vote on me?

I buy that. :P

(Which is to say, T3's vote on me is a fabricated read on my naked rvs post. This is far from T3's first game with me.)
In post 118, T3 wrote:
In post 83, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 76, T3 wrote:Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.
Mastina does this
As town or as scum?
You should already know the answer to this given this was my first post post-alignment in Townstumps. A game you were in.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:26 pm
by mastina
In post 127, Bingle wrote:VOTE: mastina
You know what you did. ;)
I actually don't?
In post 126, Infinity 324 wrote:T3 is towny I think
Call it OMGUS if you'd like, but I don't see it.

I see efforts to
appear as
town--but looking at them I don't actually
see
town.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 168, mastina wrote:see efforts to appear as town--but looking at them I don't actually see town.
I actually see no efforts to appear town, which is actually part of why I find him towny. He gives me similar vibes to where I played with town!him before, and said that the less he explains himself the more likely he is to be town.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:38 pm
by cyrus62
3 scum . Scum want to appear to be town . Think I may lay low for a bit and let people post. Maybe bait a trap or two.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:41 pm
by cyrus62
In post 165, mastina wrote:
In post 59, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: faer
Momra, I <3 you but I think you might be scum here </3
You, however, are town. <3
In post 65, Taly wrote:Mastina, your accuracy rate for reading me is currently 1 to like 5, you can go for 2 out of 6! <3
Eh I'm not
sure
you're town, but I do lean town on the toucan here, so.

Vote: Momrangal

(Still not using vote tags for good reason, townreads here are easier than good scumreads.)
Flea the Magician
Dunnstral
Bingle

Taly
House
cyrus62
Almost50

Dwlee99

NDMath
T3

Infinity 324

Momrangal

Hereabouts.
is there a reason you post your reads the way

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:46 pm
by mastina
In post 171, cyrus62 wrote:is there a reason you post your reads the way
Helps me process my reads for myself.

The way my mind works, I can have a vague idea of "this player I see as town", "this player I see as scum", "this player I see as null", etc., but I don't have a good way in my mind of really seeing how town or how scum someone is naturally.

By forcing it into a readslist, by comparing names to other names, I can get different shades of town, scum, null, etc. I can separate people who I might've both called 'null' into 'higher null' and 'lower null' for instance, to basically sort my thoughts, refine them, make them better, etc.

Readslists are more for my benefit than they are for the benefit of others.

However, the fact that my readslists let others see into my mind, how I am sorting, see my progression, see who I am thinking belongs where in the town to scum spectrum, is certainly a bonus. :P

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:53 pm
by cyrus62
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:59 pm
by cyrus62
Lol I typed that wrong.