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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:05 am
by Val89
He can't defend himself against that accusation without further breaking the 'ongoing games' rule.

You should know that, being the big clever SE you are. Smells like you are taking advantage of the cred you think that buys you amongst us silly, dense newbies to play rules-lawyer.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:10 am
by Ythan
The purpose of newbie games is in part to learn the rules of the site, particularly when you repeatedly demonstratethat you need correcting. If you have a problem with that skip straight to the regular queues. But I don't think you do really.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:10 am
by Ythan
Literally whining about me telling a player they broke two site rules in one post. Lol.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:12 am
by Ythan
I'm not sheeping Dann anymore.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:13 am
by StrangeMatter
How serious were you about that sheep anyways?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:14 am
by Val89
The point is, he might not have broken the "playing against wincon" rule, but he can't legally defend himself against the accusation.

You are right, though, I've obviously misunderstood the purpose of newbie games. I didn't think they existed for the newbies to get insulted, back hand or otherwise, but I was obviously wrong on that count, too.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:16 am
by Ythan
In post 154, StrangeMatter wrote:How serious were you about that sheep anyways?
I like Dann I was fine with doing as he asked at that point. Not very, to answer your question, but as I said his posts were at least sound while most of the game at that point was noise.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:17 am
by Dannflor
I think StrangeMatter and Leaven are my top two scum reads.

Val and James can be very tentatively town for now

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:18 am
by Ythan
In post 155, Val89 wrote:The point is, he might not have broken the "playing against wincon" rule, but he can't legally defend himself against the accusation.
If you break a rule in a game the game thread is never the place to litigate it, you should be communicating with your game mod about it if at all.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:25 am
by Val89
The why were your and posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:26 am
by StrangeMatter
Also, James is a seems off to me, a self vote and a really random and awful VT claim. That's obviously very scummy, but it feels less like it might just be too scummy and random to be to actually be something scum does.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:29 am
by Dannflor
There was nothing wrong with what Ythan did and continuing to use it to push suspicions against him is frankly gross, use another line of reasoning please

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:29 am
by Ythan
In post 159, Val89 wrote:The why were your and posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?
As I said in this very page, three purpose of newbie games is in part to educate about the rules. I am not litigating the matter and don't think it's necessary to send a warning to the mod in a newbie game when I can just tell them they've made a mistake.

But here you are being willfully obtuse again.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:30 am
by Dannflor
VOTE: strangematter

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:30 am
by Nahdia
Vote Count 1.04

Now playing... YONAKA



Ythan (3):
Leaven, Val89, JamesTheNames
JamesTheNames (1):
Salsabil Faria
, cowsloveSushirolls,
Dannflor
,
Ythan

Val89 (1):
Dannflor
,
Ythan
, Ythan
Salsabil Faria (1):
JamesTheNames
, StrangeMatter
ClarkBar (1):
Val89
, Salsabil Faria
cowsloveSushirolls (1):
ClarkBar
StrangeMatter (1):
Dannflor

Not Voting (0):
cowsloveSushirolls


Deadline is in
(expired on 2021-08-01 09:30:00)
, at which point we will default to no elimination.


With nine players alive, it takes
five
to reach majority.


Note:
Scientifically speaking, the best fruit is the
kiwi
.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:33 am
by StrangeMatter
Assuming I'm wrong about this, it'll look absolutely bad that I said that.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:00 am
by Ythan
In post 165, StrangeMatter wrote:Assuming I'm wrong about this, it'll look absolutely bad that I said that.
I don't think it's so much about whether you're right or wrong generally. Saying stuff like that and then being right can imply that you have information ie are scum, depending on the circumstances, for example.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:01 am
by Ythan
And I like bananas better but I'm not about to argue with Science.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:19 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 160, StrangeMatter wrote:Also, James is a seems off to me, a self vote and a really random and awful VT claim. That's obviously very scummy, but it feels less like it might just be too scummy and random to be to actually be something scum does.
The self vote was just RVS fluff.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:20 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 168, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 160, StrangeMatter wrote:Also, James is a seems off to me, a self vote and a really random and awful VT claim. That's obviously very scummy, but it feels less like it might just be too scummy and random to be to actually be something scum does.
The self vote was just RVS fluff.
Still not a good play, even if you say that.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:21 am
by cowsloveSushirolls
dont scumread james for self voting and early claiming lol you guys are weird
if you read my tiny case you actually have reasons for why i didn't include them in towncore
reading back, responding to everybody

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:23 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 169, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 168, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 160, StrangeMatter wrote:Also, James is a seems off to me, a self vote and a really random and awful VT claim. That's obviously very scummy, but it feels less like it might just be too scummy and random to be to actually be something scum does.
The self vote was just RVS fluff.
Still not a good play, even if you say that.
It wasn't intended to be a good play it was fluff. It was the 16th post.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:31 am
by Leaven
UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:44 am
by cowsloveSushirolls
In post 99, Leaven wrote:
In post 55, cowsloveSushirolls wrote: mark it in the charts that 4 people in my ambiguous "want to play with" list are gaming with me (but 1 replaced out, making it back to 3 currently playing)
Would you say you are better or worse at correctly identifying players you are familiar with or more prone to mistakes? Personally don't mind either way, but wondering if your familiarity is an advantage to leverage, a crutch to be aware of, or just neutral/not sure/varies.
read accuracy is not really something i'm trying to track yet with my limited playing data, but I'd imagine that it'd be better for people I'm more familiar with, since i naturally pay more attention to them and what they say. i don't have enough familiarity to use meta, however (except for EchoV maybe, who I've played a ton of games with offsite. sad that they're gone)
it won't actually impact the game much, and probably won't in the future until I've had multiple games in the charts with specific people
if it matters, i (coincidentally) have read the most on strangematter, but i still don't think I'm familiar with them, so the same goes to all of you

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:47 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 172, Leaven wrote:UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.
Not at E-1 but at E-2 feels a bit weird to unvote at.