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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:45 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 127, petapan wrote:nvm she's scummy
what's wrong with that string of posts
while I don't feel like she should have been all "grrr you're bad for trying to shift momentum" that kinda feel like a town concern, plus like, the optics just seem generally jank to the point I don't think she sticks her neck out there as scum
also if you think ulyana is scum what do you make of her FoSing infinity for (I think unintentionally) shifting the secondary-wagon momentum?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:48 am
by Morning Tweet
I've highlighted the hard to read font colour. The private thread colour palette is such a travesty.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:48 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 137, petapan wrote:also i don't get why we should have any consideration for what the other side will think about our nomination, just vote who you think is scum!!!!!!!! fuck!!!!!!!!!
yeahhh idk how I feel about that from gypyx
In post 139, petapan wrote:i just had an awful thought


we're playing tenet but can't even read the other thread and have to vote on them and not each other



i hate it here now
how is this like tenet exactly

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:49 am
by petapan
i know ydrasse meant the princess bride but i'm going to choose to believe she meant this guy instead



can't believe he found a way to make anne hathaway hot

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:50 am
by petapan
In post 150, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 127, petapan wrote:nvm she's scummy
what's wrong with that string of posts
while I don't feel like she should have been all "grrr you're bad for trying to shift momentum" that kinda feel like a town concern, plus like, the optics just seem generally jank to the point I don't think she sticks her neck out there as scum
also if you think ulyana is scum what do you make of her FoSing infinity for (I think unintentionally) shifting the secondary-wagon momentum?
because in my view it looks like attacking a bunch of people who are likely town for not great reasons

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 144, petapan wrote:i think toog voting on dunn day 1 is at least okay


even though as mafia i'd absolutely want a teammate voted into the chair. don't get the sense that was the strategy here
my theory is scum didn't want the chair and pooky dying when his idea from way early on lined up with my more recent theory backs that imo
I'd expect 2-3 scum on my wagon given that, obviously I don't think they'd all wagon me because it always better to have a "good cop" rather than have the entire scum team play "bad cop"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:00 am
by petapan
mostly i'm just not sure there's much in the way of good faith sorting from ulyana

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:06 am
by Ydrasse
peta did you ever post your reasons why dunn was scum?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:10 am
by petapan
In post 157, Ydrasse wrote:peta did you ever post your reasons why dunn was scum?
no because it wasn't necessary to get him voted and it was actually a super-specific meta thing i don't want to out

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:10 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 156, petapan wrote:mostly i'm just not sure there's much in the way of good faith sorting from ulyana
eh, bad faith isn't exactly scum indicative I think, you can do things in bad faith as town, the sort of loaded questioning I thought ydrasse was accusing unwnd of before is an example of one such thing

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:27 am
by petapan
that's not really what i mean i just mean "does this person look like town trying to figure things out"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:54 am
by unwnd
I'm no shiki expert but I played a game with pooky and me trolling as scum and she had this strange independence and tinkering about her that was less about showmanship or stuff like where she was like 'we need to vote 2 scum in here'. I remember this blanky because 1) it involved me 2) it seemed obvious. Shiki never deals in obvious though she always has an angle or her thoughts are just keystroked together without any pause of how it would be affecting others.

Like a person really married to the process but too involved to ever direct it to everyone? Small instances like that make me doubt my own shiki read because she never seemed authoritative

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:01 am
by unwnd
The instance I'm talking about, this is probably unordered:

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:hm while i agree that if you’re town there’s likely scums voting for you, i still would like this unhurried we have seven and a half days and! i don’t really understand how this helps
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 2819, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2818, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: unwnd
not caught up, but this vote is interesting given the current rules of the event
sure is
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:like toogeloo and unwnd pushing through toogeloo/unwnd duel is hmmmmmm
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:………
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:hm while i agree that if you’re town there’s likely scums voting for you, i still would like this unhurried we have seven and a half days and! i don’t really understand how this helps
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:and stop whatever this is
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 2841, ulyana wrote:like there’s no world in which it is reasonable to say we think you are the most likely scum
and let you choose like
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:unvote
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:UNVOTE:
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 2843, ulyana wrote:
In post 2841, ulyana wrote:like there’s no world in which it is reasonable to say we think you are the most likely scum
and let you choose like
like what? we aiming for two scums

two scums!!!! how would this be reasonable
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:unwnd still at e-1 and infinity moving the default second duelist off herself onto saber
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 2868, ulyana wrote:unwnd still at e-1 and infinity moving the default second duelist off herself onto saber
without like, consideration to everything that made almost no sense that moved the second duelist from toogeloo to infinity in the first place?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:04 am
by SirCakez
I nearly made Tenet in this style lol

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:05 am
by SirCakez
All I'm looking at with Uly is the Dunn interactions and they look bad on both ends

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:06 am
by SirCakez
Also I thought the duel was just gonna be a Gladiation not what we got
Idk what y'all were expecting

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:11 am
by unwnd
If you read shiki's posts here they seem very hollow

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:13 am
by unwnd
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 1445, Galron wrote:Just because I'm wagoned doesn't mean I don't get to figure out who the baddies are, right?
was just noting that both you and gamma reached for this

but also

i'm not a baddie
Never seen shiki care about her alignment

Meta soup isn't my favorite thing to serve, but that's just bound to happen when you are familiar with the players

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:15 am
by unwnd
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four
ulyana wrote:
In post 1480, Taly wrote:You expect me to know your alignment to be town but that is unclear. Don't you think it's more productive for you to tell me your current POV of the game even if you're not confident in it?
did you ask for my point of view? ya know, before saying yeah i'd like to flip her?

i still think flipping gamma best, don't really get why dwlee feels like not solving in the way i am used to or their read of me but also doesn't really feel like mafia because of, would like toogeloo to stop memeing cause that always feels like mafia to me but i know oftentimes it isn't, skitter and gypyx feel towny, conversation dunn and sircakez were having in background early in game stuck in my head as noteworthy but dunno what to make of it,
In post 1482, Saber wrote:I suppose what I'm getting at is that do you have any other reasons to suspect Gamma? Given your one reason right now is dependant on him potentially wanting to be voted.
that wasn't reason as much as possible explanation for behaviour, coupled with earlier self-voting
This is just too much for a vote on Gamma. Reading shiki here is that everything seems extra [!]

I think i would be okay voting her

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:26 am
by unwnd
Blue

Wouldn't vote
Gamma
Cakez
Peta

Ydrasse
Ydra


Being weird
Gypyx

Still dislike
Saber



Pink

Wouldn't vote
Dwlee

Null void
Skitter (I guess)
Taly


Also being weird
Infinity

Would vote
Toog
Ulyana

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 am
by unwnd
VOTE: Ulyana

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 am
by petapan
most basic of background checks says i was being overly charitable to taly and need to look him over again with fresh eyes because the trajectory on dunn raises my eyebrows

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:42 am
by unwnd
Actually

VOTE: Taly

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:43 am
by unwnd
This vote is based on stupid gamestate read but hey it worked out for Dunn so

Whatever!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:46 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 165, SirCakez wrote:Also I thought the duel was just gonna be a Gladiation not what we got
Idk what y'all were expecting
A gun was mentioned in the flavor scene at the beginning of Event 3
like, hello? Are you paying attention to things at all, bro?