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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am

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In post 149, Ydrasse wrote:it’s more like

i’m trying to figure out who between us should go up sort of thing in that situation even if we’re both town because we’re both going to want ourselves

and yes there’s no lying but it’s like, 1 dead scum and 1 lying versus potential risk of 2 lying scum together

i get it though like the point of killing 1 and then catching other out
there’s also numbers consideration for 6 players remaining in game vs 5 yeah?
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:22 am

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also like, it remains kinda absurd to suggest one of the three of you is my partner here so sending me +1 is always max one scum
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:33 am

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In post 151, ulyana wrote:also like, it remains kinda absurd to suggest one of the three of you is my partner here so sending me +1 is always max one scum
actually this probably just applies to me + whole game and then we’re just back to my frustration with previous stage
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:34 am

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In post 146, Ydrasse wrote:titus’s hesitation to send someone is really ? to me when faced with the choice of sending someone vs the scum picking
It should get announced scum picked in that scenario unless I am missing something?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:34 am

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It guarantees a dead scum too as opposed to a dual save which practically ensures that two scum get through.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:34 am

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In post 120, ulyana wrote:
In post 117, Titus wrote:If people knew scum saved someone over me saving someone, then that person would be more likely to be eliminated and get a double scum death.
In post 2, Morning Tweet wrote:This game's details will never be made public.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:36 am

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In post 154, Titus wrote:It guarantees a dead scum too as opposed to a dual save which practically ensures that two scum get through.
how would this possibly be true? like most likely forced situation for two scum in hell is one scum has to save the other yeah?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:38 am

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like how would dual save ensure two scum through?

like if sircakez saves ydrasse and i save you are two scum through? as that currently seems most likely two through situation so your insistence on this is ???
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 156, ulyana wrote:
In post 154, Titus wrote:It guarantees a dead scum too as opposed to a dual save which practically ensures that two scum get through.
how would this possibly be true? like most likely forced situation for two scum in hell is one scum has to save the other yeah?
That's easy. Scum don't have any reason to die. Scum have every reason to encourage a save. The townblock is all town. If I save (the only way two saves should happen) then I have a 2/3 chance of saving scum. That person removed. The other townie does a save.

Both scum alive, both town dead. That's the only way a dual save works. It's horrible.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 157, ulyana wrote:like how would dual save ensure two scum through?

like if sircakez saves ydrasse and i save you are two scum through? as that currently seems most likely two through situation so your insistence on this is ???
I don't see how in the world you save me given our stances in the main thread.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:12 am

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Don't get me wrong, I'd be thankful but I don't see that happening.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:14 am

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In post 158, Titus wrote:
In post 156, ulyana wrote:
In post 154, Titus wrote:It guarantees a dead scum too as opposed to a dual save which practically ensures that two scum get through.
how would this possibly be true? like most likely forced situation for two scum in hell is one scum has to save the other yeah?
That's easy. Scum don't have any reason to die. Scum have every reason to encourage a save. The townblock is all town. If I save (the only way two saves should happen) then I have a 2/3 chance of saving scum. That person removed. The other townie does a save.

Both scum alive, both town dead. That's the only way a dual save works. It's horrible.
but… you would have to be scum for this to happen in practice yeah? or do you plan on changing course? or think sircakez is about to?
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 161, ulyana wrote:
In post 158, Titus wrote:
In post 156, ulyana wrote:
In post 154, Titus wrote:It guarantees a dead scum too as opposed to a dual save which practically ensures that two scum get through.
how would this possibly be true? like most likely forced situation for two scum in hell is one scum has to save the other yeah?
That's easy. Scum don't have any reason to die. Scum have every reason to encourage a save. The townblock is all town. If I save (the only way two saves should happen) then I have a 2/3 chance of saving scum. That person removed. The other townie does a save.

Both scum alive, both town dead. That's the only way a dual save works. It's horrible.
but… you would have to be scum for this to happen in practice yeah? or do you plan on changing course? or think sircakez is about to?
No. I'm supposing I have to save for a dual save. I don't forsee you saving me.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 159, Titus wrote:
In post 157, ulyana wrote:like how would dual save ensure two scum through?

like if sircakez saves ydrasse and i save you are two scum through? as that currently seems most likely two through situation so your insistence on this is ???
I don't see how in the world you save me given our stances in the main thread.
? i literally trying to figure out if i wrong for this reason but having so much trouble understanding no save perspective
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 163, ulyana wrote:
In post 159, Titus wrote:
In post 157, ulyana wrote:like how would dual save ensure two scum through?

like if sircakez saves ydrasse and i save you are two scum through? as that currently seems most likely two through situation so your insistence on this is ???
I don't see how in the world you save me given our stances in the main thread.
? i literally trying to figure out if i wrong for this reason but having so much trouble understanding no save perspective
I don't have faith in anyone's reads. I strongly feel the townblock is town.

I'd want a guaranteed scum. That works without trusting anyone. Then, afterwards it should get announced that scum elected to save a person. That results in an elimination of that player and a win.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:19 am

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If we get a save, that creates the impression the saved scum is actually townie. I don't want that impression.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:20 am

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I think I'm likely outvoted and debating continuing the game rather than stalling out. None of the plans require me to save anyone anyway so I can still try to convince you guys but it kinda feels like a decision is made.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:21 am

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In post 164, Titus wrote:Then, afterwards it should get announced that scum elected to save a person. That results in an elimination of that player and a win.
i quoted it so many times morning tweets post says this doesn’t happeb
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:22 am

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In post 155, ulyana wrote:
In post 120, ulyana wrote:
In post 117, Titus wrote:If people knew scum saved someone over me saving someone, then that person would be more likely to be eliminated and get a double scum death.
In post 2, Morning Tweet wrote:This game's details will never be made public.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:23 am

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i don’t really think there’s a compromise here regarding the no save thing s:
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:25 am

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In post 169, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t really think there’s a compromise here regarding the no save thing s:
not trying to compromise just trying to understand if it’s a possible town idea
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:25 am

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In post 170, ulyana wrote:
In post 169, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t really think there’s a compromise here regarding the no save thing s:
not trying to compromise just trying to understand if it’s a possible town idea
like someone’s gonna save someone that’s not the important bit
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:27 am

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In post 167, ulyana wrote:
In post 164, Titus wrote:Then, afterwards it should get announced that scum elected to save a person. That results in an elimination of that player and a win.
i quoted it so many times morning tweets post says this doesn’t happeb
Wait what?
I'll admit I have been a bit distracted but I didn't see this at all.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:27 am

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So basically town has no idea how this process goes down. That changes my calculus a bit.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:28 am

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