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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:49 am
by Ydrasse
also tbf i did nothing in aliensitter that was all on u

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:51 am
by Menalque
I mean dannflor is undeniably hot this is true

did nothing but erase my ability to hug human beings without checking their hands for knives first (that they might then later use to stab me in the back (even if it was on me doesn't mean my ability to trust was not permanently compromised))

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:51 am
by Ydrasse
simply get over it that is how this issue is fixed

i town

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:54 am
by Menalque
I don't think ur not town but I'm also not putting u or dann in unless I really don't get anything from una/greeting/vanders or unwnd starts giving me the little worry pings in my brain

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:57 am
by Ydrasse
mmmmmmmmmmmm

unfortunately in this sort of game that sentiment comes across as wolfier than a normal one because it feels like you’d discount slots based on like, meta/experience/what have you and could be used as a shield to push through a less proven player who you could be teamed with because the arbitrary bar is lower

also i felt like your reads were a bit hedgy and the vote for unwnd was similarly a ?! moment compared to ur words about him

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:58 am
by Dannflor
if you were to sort greeting and vanders based off nothing but the gut pings in your heart of hearts (ignore the mixed metaphor) where would you sort them

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:58 am
by Ydrasse
do u think my dann heal is preemptive

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:01 am
by Menalque
I'm starting class like literally now so will respond later/tomo but vanders marginally more likely town than greeting

dann heal not preemptive necessarily but that also doesn't mean I would put him in

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:08 am
by Ydrasse
hmmm

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:15 am
by Dannflor
it's not not wolfy but i also don't think it is inconsistent with menalque's general approach to mafia

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:16 am
by Dannflor
how many negatives was that

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:21 am
by Ydrasse
it’s consistent with him yes but i just go >_> more because of setup implications

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:22 am
by Ydrasse
like i feel it hampers my ability a bit to read him “”in good faith”” if i wear the shackles of meta but c’est la vie

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:22 am
by Dannflor
yeah it annoys me but I'd rather not argue about it

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:23 am
by Ydrasse
also bcuz so far i don’t know if this table has the ability to generate a state to like town it up to arbitrary benchmark

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:23 am
by Ydrasse
yeahhhh
grumble grumble

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:28 am
by unwnd
The cat picture makes me think ydra doesn't have a knife this game cuz no opposable thumbs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:29 am
by Una
HEAL: Ydrasse

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:37 am
by unwnd
In post 56, Lucian wrote:
In post 49, Una wrote:
In post 36, Lucian wrote:
In post 35, Una wrote:
In post 29, Lucian wrote:
In post 27, JunkoChan wrote:HEAL: Una, Menalque, unwnd, Greetings, Vanderscamp
Are these random?
Did you not notice these matched mine?
It was about 3 and a half hours between me reading your heals and reading Junko's. Not to mention that I assumed that your heals are random, while Junko's might not have been.
That is mean. Why would you assume I have no strategy?
Because I don't think you can have an actual coalition pick at post 11,
unless you are informed?
Though I'm listening if you wanna convince me otherwise.

I didn't mean to be mean. x_x
Just want to share how many times I stared at this message

The tacked on 'unless you are informed' always reads like UNLESS YOU ARE INFORMED to exaggerated effect in my mind. Just reeks of guilty conscience with how point blank it is

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:47 am
by Una
In post 134, Menalque wrote:but I was being serious about not wanting either of dann or ydra in unless they obvtown
There are 15,120 possible coalitions but only 2,520 can win the game, this is a 17% chance to immediately win.

You are excluding 2 players from possible coalitions. That means you are only considering 2,520 coalitions, 17% of the ones that are allowed. (2,520 has appeared again because the number of Ydrasse and Dannflor is the same number of people as the Mafia). The probability of winning is the same but 5/6ths of the winning coalitions, on average, aren't in play so it will be much harder to subjectively sniff and smell a winning coalition.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:01 am
by unwnd
Actually it's 15,121

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:05 am
by unwnd
HEAL: Vanderscamp, unwnd, Una, Dannflor, JunkoChan

I think Lucian/Junko aren't aligned and Lucian has been my #1 scumread for a while now therefore I'm split between them

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:07 am
by unwnd
I feel the most preemptive about dannflor

Una has me pocketed this game, sorry Ydra

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:16 am
by Dannflor
Image

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:17 am
by unwnd
Dann in the time that I've been gone have you become more uh

Forthright? I just remember your town game being more delicate? That's the aspect that is throwing me off