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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:20 pm
by Benmage
I may be but in general I find scum the favorite. This is magnified 10X when mountainous. If you ask me this is as balanced as a mountainous can be, which in my opinion is still a scum dominated genre. A more competent scum team wins this hands down.

I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:21 pm
by Benmage
may be ...bias*

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:42 pm
by Thor665
I think I agree with Oso mostly. Scum was in a bad spot after two correct lynches early on but...well, isn't that what happens when own hits that accurate?

The one thing I will say is I don't think scum have such an advantage where day talk should be limited - either the day talk is worth giving them or it isn't (I'd say give it, considering the double lynch mechanic) but frankly the whole half day on/half off business kinda felt confusing and slightly left me off balance as to keeping track of such conversation.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:11 pm
by Baby Spice
That I agree with. Also I think the starting scum team didn't think it through and chose poorly right at the start to have the chat D1P2 not D1P1.

I also think Mina's idea to trim down the town was actually a good one.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:19 pm
by Zachrulez
Thor665 wrote:I think I agree with Oso mostly. Scum was in a bad spot after two correct lynches early on but...well, isn't that what happens when own hits that accurate?

The one thing I will say is I don't think scum have such an advantage where day talk should be limited - either the day talk is worth giving them or it isn't (I'd say give it, considering the double lynch mechanic) but frankly the whole half day on/half off business kinda felt confusing and slightly left me off balance as to keeping track of such conversation.
Yeah, full daytalk might work better with this kind of setup.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:03 pm
by Thor665
I'd agree. I consider full day talk to be a scumvantadge, but frankly a double lynch is a solid townvantadge so it feels relatively powered.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:25 am
by VP Baltar
Benmage wrote:I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.
Not necessarily a PR catch, considering.:P

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:38 am
by Benmage
VP Baltar wrote:
Benmage wrote:I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.
Not necessarily a PR catch, considering.:P
Dayvig doesn't count?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:30 am
by VP Baltar
Not when almost everyone could dayvig!

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:45 am
by Sotty7
I really wanted to shoot someone in that game :(

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:46 am
by Benmage
Still :P ...the point isn't that I've never been under suspicion, but try getting a majority on me...not easy.

And I have tried very hard to erase that game from my memory.... traitors on a scum team = fail game.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:14 am
by havingfitz
Good job town.

Did the scum QT ever get posted?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:26 am
by Thor665
Meh, 2 of 3 of the surviving scum team consented, and Dry Fit only ever posted once, so here;
Scum QT

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:00 am
by I Am Innocent
Thor665 wrote:Meh, 2 of 3 of the surviving scum team consented, and Dry Fit only ever posted once, so here;
Scum QT
Good stuff. Many props to you and Baby Spice for keeping that interesting!

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:09 pm
by Percy
I am very happy that we won this game. I would have had a meltdown if we lost this one!
Benmage wrote:Benmage's 1-2-3 success. Told ya I had this one on lockdown. Just needed to bypass a little collateral damage.
:neutral:
Oso wrote:I'd like to add my thanks to Zach for running the game and to Sotty for inviting me to play in the first place.
This!
Benmage wrote:We got luckyish with baby spice
:roll:
Mina wrote:Oh, and Benmage? Here's your new avatar.
Yesssssssss
Mina wrote:(Percy, I revoked my bet. IT DOESN'T COUNT!)
Awwwww.... :P
VP Baltar wrote:Historically, balance in a mountainous game is best at a ratio of 2:10. The double day mechanic is definitely beneficial to the town, so adding an additional scum player was necessary.
I think the game could be run and still be balanced at 3:10 or 3:11 - this kind of game requires a lot more work from scum than your average game. But 3:13 worked out well, considering how close we came to losing!

I think Thor did really well at the end there and got a lot of mislynches happening before he got done, so kudos to him. I'm relatively happy with my play in this game; I was wrong about Dry-fit, and even though I somehow spent the entire game being hounded for it, I still got the BS lynch. And the KScope lynch felt fucking fantastic, even though he was town. Vindictive, much? :P

Thanks again to Zach for a great game, and I had fun playing with you all! :D

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:58 pm
by Elmo
Mmh. KScope is never a bad lynch. :P

I just now looked through your posts because I had great difficulty finding the case at the time. I don't think her slip was a slip - I just can't really imagine scum blurting that kind of thing out, and I've seen town use that kind of phrasing before. I do think her vote on Lrdwhyt was scummy, actually. I see the argument for but don't really buy into the point about her going after Benmage's early mistake about lynching; it's pretty clear he made a mistake, but remember that IAI did something very similar and he turned out to be town; maybe there's a finer distinction to be made there, but that influenced my view. I think her position against Benmage as "arrogant scum" isn't scummy; I think it's literally possibly true but a dubious position to take, but to me it's believable that a townie would have that reaction to Benmage's general abrasiveness, and I still don't really see any tactical gain from it.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:09 pm
by Furcolow
Benmage wrote:We got luckyish with baby spice and scum got lucky furclow was town. Both weren't making it to lylo.
I have won the game for the town in lylo
I would have lynched IAI or Thor just the same as you, so